Corn bran anyone?

link correction:

www.honeyvillegrain.com

If fat is high enough, one can be regular without fiber.

You are posted in a low carb group, so can I presume you are low carbing?

Grits are not low carb. They are 90% carbohydrate. One cup of grits is
about 24 carbs, so you would have to plan for very few additional carbs for
the day. -very few

How about cheese, salami, and eggs for breakfast?

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My diet (see my recent topic) has eliminated my long-time use of corn

grits

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for breakfast due to its hi-carbs,
however I'm wondering how a serving of just 1 tbsp grits + 2 tbsp corn

bran

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would taste..

Note corn bran neatly solves problem of getting enuf fiber in a hi-fiber
diet as its 99% fiber and seems to be
well-regarded by the "South Beach" "Atkins" diet gurus,
but why is this food's calories countable if its all dietary fiber?

Have a look at below link's nutrition info for "corn bran crude"

http://www.calorie-count.com/calories/browse/2000.html

After a lengthy search, I have found and ordered corn bran from
www.honeyville.grain.com
($5 for 5 lbs + $5 ship)

and will report back its taste for various ratio with corn grits.
Hopefully I can substitute it for current wheat bran (Fiber One) in my

1000

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calorie diet,
and restore my beloved "grits for breakfast"
.

The USDA counts fiber calories even though the body doesn't utilize them.

In news:[email hidden],
David Frank <[email hidden]> stated
| My diet (see my recent topic) has eliminated my long-time use of corn
| grits for breakfast due to its hi-carbs,
| however I'm wondering how a serving of just 1 tbsp grits + 2 tbsp
| corn bran would taste..
|
| Note corn bran neatly solves problem of getting enuf fiber in a
| hi-fiber diet as its 99% fiber and seems to be
| well-regarded by the "South Beach" "Atkins" diet gurus,
| but why is this food's calories countable if its all dietary fiber?
|
| Have a look at below link's nutrition info for "corn bran crude"
|
| http://www.calorie-count.com/calories/browse/2000.html
|
| After a lengthy search, I have found and ordered corn bran from
| www.honeyville.grain.com
| ($5 for 5 lbs + $5 ship)
|
| and will report back its taste for various ratio with corn grits.
| Hopefully I can substitute it for current wheat bran (Fiber One) in
| my 1000 calorie diet,
| and restore my beloved "grits for breakfast"
| .

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If fat is high enough, one can be regular without fiber.

But such a hi-fat diet will GREATLY exceed my current 1000 calorie diet plan

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You are posted in a low carb group, so can I presume you are low carbing?

I have approx equal amounts of carbs and protein plus 1/2 that amount in
fiber which forces fat and carbs to be low
to keep < 1000 calories...

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Grits are not low carb. They are 90% carbohydrate. One cup of grits is
about 24 carbs, so you would have to plan for very few additional carbs
for
the day. -very few

According to my pkg label
3 tbsp corn grits (dry) = 1 cup cooked = 29 carbs
1 tbsp corn grits (dry) = 1/3 cup cooked = 10 carbs
to which I plan on adding 2 tbsp corn bran = Z E R O carbs = total
breakfast grits = 10 g carbs plus 11 g fiber
but this will replace wheat bran in my 1000 calorie diet see:
http://home.earthlink.net/~dave_gemini/calories.txt
and give me back grits, one of my fav breakfast foods.

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How about cheese, salami, and eggs for breakfast?

Did you bother to examine my breakfast menu (egg, sausage/
franks/ham/bacon) shown in link above?
..

Grits are not low carb.

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If fat is high enough, one can be regular without fiber.

But such a hi-fat diet will GREATLY exceed my current 1000 calorie diet
plan

Quoted message said:

You are posted in a low carb group, so can I presume you are low carbing?

I have approx equal amounts of carbs and protein plus 1/2 that amount in
fiber which forces fat and carbs to be low
to keep < 1000 calories...

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Grits are not low carb. They are 90% carbohydrate. One cup of grits is
about 24 carbs, so you would have to plan for very few additional carbs
for
the day. -very few

According to my pkg label
3 tbsp corn grits (dry) = 1 cup cooked = 29 carbs
1 tbsp corn grits (dry) = 1/3 cup cooked = 10 carbs
to which I plan on adding 2 tbsp corn bran = Z E R O carbs = total
breakfast grits = 10 g carbs plus 11 g fiber
but this will replace wheat bran in my 1000 calorie diet see:
http://home.earthlink.net/~dave_gemini/calories.txt
and give me back grits, one of my fav breakfast foods.

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How about cheese, salami, and eggs for breakfast?

Did you bother to examine my breakfast menu (egg, sausage/
franks/ham/bacon) shown in link above?
.

David Frank said:

Did you bother to examine my breakfast menu (egg, sausage/
franks/ham/bacon) shown in link above?

I suspect you will be hungry. I also suspect that the grits will make
you more hungry, since carbs trigger hunger in most people.

The reasoning behind a high fat low calorie diet is that the fat is
very filling, so you get more fullness for your calorie. I think there
is some research that questions whether it is the fat or the protein,
but most are in agreement that carbs make you hungry.

If you have the willpower to handle the hunger, this will probably work
for your goals. But it seems a hard road to walk from where I sit.

-Hollywood
264/222.5/218 LC since 7/20/05

I doubt it compares to grits cause I hate grits, but do like this
cereal.

Basically, take 3 TB ground flax seed and 3 TB unflavored, unsweetened
milk-based protein powder and 2/3 cups of water and stick it all in a
bowl and nuke.

Top with a bit of cinnamon, a bit of sweetener and maybe a TB or two of
some heavy cream.

The flax meal has sort of a nutty taste. Reminds me of hazelnuts. And
it's chock-ful of goodness, lots of omega-3 fats (keep the meal
refrigerated to preserve them) and all the carbs are from fiber.

Milk-based protein powder actually tastes good too - not like the soy
stuff. If you buy an unflavored and unsweetend version, you have the
most versatility.

So... while it's not grits-like, it is a nice nourishing hot bowl of
"cereal" with the stick-to-your-ribness one wants in a hot cereal,
especially in winter.

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I doubt it compares to grits cause I hate grits, but do like this
cereal.

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Basically, take 3 TB ground flax seed and 3 TB unflavored, unsweetened
milk-based protein powder and 2/3 cups of water and stick it all in a
bowl and nuke.

Top with a bit of cinnamon, a bit of sweetener and maybe a TB or two of
some heavy cream.

The flax meal has sort of a nutty taste. Reminds me of hazelnuts. And
it's chock-ful of goodness, lots of omega-3 fats (keep the meal
refrigerated to preserve them) and all the carbs are from fiber.

Milk-based protein powder actually tastes good too - not like the soy
stuff. If you buy an unflavored and unsweetend version, you have the
most versatility.

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So... while it's not grits-like, it is a nice nourishing hot bowl of
"cereal" with the stick-to-your-ribness one wants in a hot cereal,
especially in winter.

Grinding flaxseeds seems a chore,
btw, yesterday I discovered "Parkay Fat-Free Spray" 0 calories, 0 carbs
1 topping = 5 sprays = 225 toppings per $1.06 spray bottle at Walmart,
will try it as a topping on my Corn Grits supplemented with Corn Bran when I
get them,
it has nice flavor that shud go great with a toasted english muffin (
another fav food eliminated from my diet)

re: milk-based protein powder aka Whey Powder,
yes I just discovered this low-carb hi-protein product at Walmart and
already am using it in my
evening snack of hi-protein hi-fiber home-made chocolate pudding ..

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Grinding flaxseeds seems a chore,

You can buy them ground as "flax meal." Once they're ground, the
omega-3 fats start breaking down, which is why you should keep it
refrigerated.

It's a health food store item. Though some grocery stores keep a
section of Bob's Mill products and it can be found there too sometimes.

I can't see what the whole seeds would be good for in the practical
sense except maybe sprinkling on muffins. And I believe they pass
through undigested, so you don't get the benefit of the oils unless
they're ground.

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re: milk-based protein powder aka Whey Powder,
yes I just discovered this low-carb hi-protein product at Walmart and
already am using it in my
evening snack of hi-protein hi-fiber home-made chocolate pudding ..

Wal-mart doesn't sell unflavored, unsweetened milk-based protein powder
(slightly different stuff than whey-based, but whey-based is good too).

I used to get it from Bronson, but they dropped it and only do the
flavored powders now. I get it in bulk from proteinfactory.com - the
stuff I get is the milk-based stuff... pretty much pure protein.

I like unflavored and unsweetened. The sweetened stuff is way too
sweet for me. And the flavored isn't versatile enough - I like
choosing my flavors as I go.

When you are not craving a hot cereal kind of breakfast, you can make
great shakes with it. Throw in a handful of low-carb fruit like
strawberries with some ice, water and a bit of cream in a blender. My
most decadent one is a mocha shake made with cold coffee instead of
water, baking cocoa, shot of heavy cream, sweetener and some ice -
really yummy breakfast.

Here's the specific link to the milk-based protein powder:

http://proteinfactory.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=22_28&products_id=50

It seems to me it "sticks" with you longer than whey-based. If I have
a protein powder shake for breakfast with the milk stuff, I'm not
hungry again until mid-afternoon. The whey-based stuff doesn't seem to
even make it to lunch.

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Here's the specific link to the milk-based protein powder:

http://proteinfactory.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=22_28&products_id=50

It seems to me it "sticks" with you longer than whey-based. If I have
a protein powder shake for breakfast with the milk stuff, I'm not
hungry again until mid-afternoon. The whey-based stuff doesn't seem to
even make it to lunch.

Thanks for the info, since I have about 2 wks of whey remaining, I just
went ahead and ordered
5 lbs of your recommended powder at above link and MAY get delivery before I
run out of whey powder

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Milk-based protein powder actually tastes good too - not like the soy
stuff. If you buy an unflavored and unsweetend version, you have the
most versatility.

Can you also use this in cooking/baking, in recipes that call for whey
protein powder? Is it stable when heated?

Thanks 🙂.

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Sherry
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http://lowcarb.owly.net

Sherry said:

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Milk-based protein powder actually tastes good too - not like the soy
stuff. If you buy an unflavored and unsweetend version, you have the
most versatility.

Can you also use this in cooking/baking, in recipes that call for whey
protein powder? Is it stable when heated?

The only "cooked" recipes I've done with it have been the cereal thingy
above and someone-or-other's recipe for faux pancakes. Worked fine in
both of those.

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Grinding flaxseeds seems a chore,

Get a small coffee grinder to grind the flaxseed. You should be able to
get one for about $10. I think it WOULD be a chore to grind it fresh
every time, which is why I make up a big batch of cereal and then
refrigerate it in mason jars (I use a FoodSaver attachment to suck the
air out of the jars that are not currently being used). I make my
cereal out of flaxmeal, hazelnut meal, Butter Buds and milk & egg
protein powder. When I eat it, I use about 1.5 oz of the mixture with
about 1/3 cup of water, flavor it with either Frontier brand maple
flavoring or a tsp of cocoa powder & some butter and nuke it for 1
minute. I make enough of it at one time to last me about 3 weeks.

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Saffire
205/133/125
Atkins since 6/14/03
Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

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Before this topic passes from view, try Googling with> "corn bran"
studies
it gets links to articles such as below...

"Corn bran supplementation of a low-fat controlled diet lowers
serum lipids in men with hypercholesterolemia."

and the good cholesterol was unaffected...

David Frank said:

Before this topic passes from view, try Googling with> "corn bran"
studies it gets links to articles such as below...

"Corn bran supplementation of a low-fat controlled diet lowers
serum lipids in men with hypercholesterolemia."

and the good cholesterol was unaffected...

Since switching to low carb in the first place helps around 80%
reduce their cholesterol, I suspect you're trying for overkill at
this point.

Corn bran is the husks from the kernels. Husks ground into a
powder. Okay. It's easier to find oat bran or wheat bran but if
it's corn you want go for it.

Bran is all fiber. Note that cooking converts some amount of
fiber into digestible carbs. I'm not sure how much is converted,
but compare raw and cooked cauliflower in the nutrition tables
some time. The amount converted is non-trivial. So don't put
the bran in and cook it for much time. Heat it up to get it soft
and eat it then.

Much of low carbing is mental. If you refuse to give up your
"beloved grits" to the point you're substituting something that
is not easy to find in stores, consider the risk of not finding
it in stores. You risk a crash-and-burn. Consider working to
change this attitude to reduce risk.

A thousand calories? Why so low? That's a hard minimum
below which is definite starvation. You're risking rebound.
A less extreme caloric reduction has less rebound risk.

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David Frank said:

Before this topic passes from view, try Googling with> "corn bran"
studies it gets links to articles such as below...

"Corn bran supplementation of a low-fat controlled diet lowers
serum lipids in men with hypercholesterolemia."

and the good cholesterol was unaffected...

Since switching to low carb in the first place helps around 80%
reduce their cholesterol, I suspect you're trying for overkill at
this point.

I dont take a cholesterol-lowering drug my older brother does, and so do
millions of men
paying BILLIONS, if switching to low carb is ALL it takes to get off the
statin drugs then
surely it would be getting more attention than you seem to imply...
The study I mention shows that ON TOP of a low-fat diet, MODERATE use of
corn bran
reduces bad cholesterol even further, I think thats news to many here.

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Doug Freyburger said:

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"Corn bran supplementation of a low-fat controlled diet lowers
serum lipids in men with hypercholesterolemia."

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and the good cholesterol was unaffected...

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Since switching to low carb in the first place helps around 80%
reduce their cholesterol, I suspect you're trying for overkill at
this point.

I dont take a cholesterol-lowering drug my older brother does, and
so do millions of men paying BILLIONS

Follow the money. Billions of dollars.

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if switching to low carb is ALL it takes to get off the statin drugs then
surely it would be getting more attention than you seem to imply...

Think that all you like, but the fact remains that low carbing on its
own is at least as effective as any one drug once you've been low
carbing for 6+ months. The fact that the medical community
ignores this point, well those billions of dollars might account for
it. Then again being stubborn in refusing to believe they've been
wrong for decades might account for it as well. Switching to low
carb really is ALL it takes for 80% to get off statin drugs.

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The study I mention shows that ON TOP of a low-fat diet,
MODERATE use of corn bran reduces bad cholesterol even
further, I think thats news to many here.

You seem to think that low carb folks are ignorant of low fat
news. It's 10 year old news that oat bran helps low fatters lower
their cholesterol, extremely old-hat. What's new is that corn
bran does as well. Hardly surprising but largely irrelevant given
the fact that low carbers have learned that low carbing itself
works as well as any one drug. I was a lot more surprised that
corn bran exists on the market than that it helps low fatters
reduce cholesterol. I bet a study of barley bran would show
the same result, and I bet what I would find surprising is
someone locating barley bran as a market item.

But if you want to use belt and suspenders and straps and
splints, by all means do so. I understand that you don't
believe that low carbing reduces cholesterol. Folks disbelieve
all sorts of true stuff.

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David Frank said:

Doug Freyburger said:

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> "Corn bran supplementation of a low-fat controlled diet lowers
> serum lipids in men with hypercholesterolemia."

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> and the good cholesterol was unaffected...

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Since switching to low carb in the first place helps around 80%
reduce their cholesterol, I suspect you're trying for overkill at
this point.

I dont take a cholesterol-lowering drug my older brother does, and
so do millions of men paying BILLIONS

Follow the money. Billions of dollars.

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if switching to low carb is ALL it takes to get off the statin drugs then
surely it would be getting more attention than you seem to imply...

Think that all you like, but the fact remains that low carbing on its
own is at least as effective as any one drug once you've been low
carbing for 6+ months. The fact that the medical community
ignores this point, well those billions of dollars might account for
it. Then again being stubborn in refusing to believe they've been
wrong for decades might account for it as well. Switching to low
carb really is ALL it takes for 80% to get off statin drugs.

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The study I mention shows that ON TOP of a low-fat diet,
MODERATE use of corn bran reduces bad cholesterol even
further, I think thats news to many here.

You seem to think that low carb folks are ignorant of low fat
news. It's 10 year old news that oat bran helps low fatters lower
their cholesterol, extremely old-hat. What's new is that corn
bran does as well. Hardly surprising but largely irrelevant given
the fact that low carbers have learned that low carbing itself
works as well as any one drug. I was a lot more surprised that
corn bran exists on the market than that it helps low fatters
reduce cholesterol. I bet a study of barley bran would show
the same result, and I bet what I would find surprising is
someone locating barley bran as a market item.

But if you want to use belt and suspenders and straps and
splints, by all means do so. I understand that you don't
believe that low carbing reduces cholesterol. Folks disbelieve
all sorts of true stuff.

There are links like below that say low-carb diets do the opposite (raise
cholesterol)

http://archives.cnn.com/2001/HEALTH/diet.fitness/03/20/protein.diet.heart/