Koxx Longneck Frame

fexnix said:

Why do you want a koxx frame? Don´t you already have a nice longneck
frame?

Yes, I have the Sem XL Longneck, but ever since I bought it the whole
frame has been off center with the wheel. UDC won't cover it in any
way (even though it wasn't at all my fault), so I'll just ask for a new
Koxx for X-mas. I no longer trust the Sem frames as I have bought two
in hopes of fixing the problem and both are bent.

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fexnix said:

Why do you want a koxx frame? Don´t you already have a nice longneck
frame?

Yes, I have the Sem XL Longneck, but ever since I bought it the whole
frame has been off center with the wheel. UDC won't cover it in any
way (even though it wasn't at all my fault), so I'll just ask for a new
Koxx for X-mas. I no longer trust the Sem frames as I have bought two
in hopes of fixing the problem and both are bent.

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fexnix said:

Why do you want a koxx frame? Don´t you already have a nice longneck
frame?

Yes, I have the Sem XL Longneck, but ever since I bought it the whole
frame has been off center with the wheel. UDC won't cover it in any
way (even though it wasn't at all my fault), so I'll just ask for a new
Koxx for X-mas. I no longer trust the Sem frames as I have bought two
in hopes of fixing the problem and both are bent.

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my frame is ever so slightly off centre with the wheel. I have a Nimbus
X wheelset. Have you ever considered that maybe the wide hub causes
this? or that your wheel may be out of true? It's maybe 5$ for a spoke
wrench to fix this sort of stuff, you know.

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my frame is ever so slightly off centre with the wheel. I have a Nimbus
X wheelset. Have you ever considered that maybe the wide hub causes
this? or that your wheel may be out of true? It's maybe 5$ for a spoke
wrench to fix this sort of stuff, you know.

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flyer said:

my frame is ever so slightly off centre with the wheel. I have a Nimbus
X wheelset. Have you ever considered that maybe the wide hub causes
this? or that your wheel may be out of true? It's maybe 5$ for a spoke
wrench to fix this sort of stuff, you know.

My wheel is totally in true (according to the bike shop). As for the
wide hub, what is the solution to that?

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UniTyler said:

Yes, I have the Sem XL Longneck, but ever since I bought it the whole
frame has been off center with the wheel. UDC won't cover it in any
way (even though it wasn't at all my fault), so I'll just ask for a new
Koxx for X-mas. I no longer trust the Sem frames as I have bought two
in hopes of fixing the problem and both are bent.

What happened? How do you know it is not your fault? How do you know
it is not the wheel?

I've had great experience with the Sem Longneck and the Sem XL frames
in general, so I'm pretty curious about your situation.

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U-Turn said:

What happened? How do you know it is not your fault? How do you know
it is not the wheel?

I've had great experience with the Sem Longneck and the Sem XL frames
in general, so I'm pretty curious about your situation.

1) It came that way
2) The wheel was checked by a bike shop
3) See my thread about it (I just made it so it should be on top of
RSU)

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The Nimbus uses a a wider hub than the Sem wheels. You probably had to
pull the frame legs apart a bit to fit the hub in there. If this isn't
done correctly it will result in your wheel being off centre a bit.

It's entirely possible you got a bum frame, however not terribly
likely, which is why myself and u-turn are questioning you so hard :q

Besides, wouldn't you rather have something fixable than have to go get
a new frame?

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UniTyler said:

UDC won't cover it in any way (even though it wasn't at all my fault),
so I'll just ask for a new Koxx for X-mas. I no longer trust the Sem
frames as I have bought two in hopes of fixing the problem and both are
bent.

Luckily you're not vindictive about this...

You seem to be missing a fundamental fact: Bike shops can and often ARE
wrong, especially when it comes to unciycles. Do you know the
difference between dish and trueness? Your wheel could be perfectly
true but not be evenly dished.

I find it disturbing that you're solution to so many things is to throw
money at them. I'm curious, how much of these framess did you pay for?
How much of the Koxx frame will you pay for? Have you made any attempt
at (or even thought about) recitifying the problem with either of your
sem frames? Does it actually make a difference if your wheel isn't
perfectly centered? Can you think of any tests to verify whether or not
it's your wheel or frame (I can think of two easy ones).

What I see is you using money to replace thought. A few minutes of
logical thought while looking at a unicycle should qucikly reveal a
check for whether it's the frame or wheel that's bent. But aside from
that, why is it that slight misalignment matters? i ride muni on a
unicycle where the frame is misaligned, aswell, however, I don't go
spend $150 of my parents' money to fix it. Rather, I cut up a soda can
and get back to riding.

Twenty bucks says you'll go buy yet another frame when you get this
Koxx one, the reason being that "it was made incorrectly and is uneven,
and it's not at all my fault."

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Ok Tyler, one thing, what problem does the frame restrict your riding in
anyway? Assuming that the frame is indeed bent or crooked, Does it
hinder your riding?

If not, why replace it? Maybe you just dont like the -idea - of having
an off-center frame.

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When you turn the wheel around in the frame, is the wheel still to the
one side, or did it switch sides? If it's now on the other side of the
frame, the wheel is dished. Getting a new frame is not going to fix
that. If the wheel is dished, get a spoke wrench and tighten all the
spokes only on the one side. This will pull the rim over some. Maybe
start with doing a half turn on each spoke. If that didn't move it
enough, loosen the other half by half a turn. Repeat until it's right.

If the frame is the cause you can also fix it this way too, but you may
want to look at other possibilities. I know on my wyganoski frame, the
bearing holders can be bolted on wrong to cause the wheel to be too
much to the one side. Loosening the bolts and adjusting the position of
the wheel in the frame before tightening it fixes it. The Semcycle has
a different bearing holder setup, so that might not be possible, but
it's worth looking to see if something like that may be causing it to
slant to one side.

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tyler maybe you should just get one of these:
http://www.unicycle.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=849
maybe that would work

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Shipping from country's across the sea are like any where from
$20-$300.......My unlce was gonna order my Qu-ax from his bike shop he
ownes from germany but it would have been $140 for shipping
so............

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gerblefranklin said:

What I see is you using money to replace thought.

Isn't this exactly what Bush wanted when he told Americans to be "good
consumers"?

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maestro8 said:

Isn't this exactly what Bush wanted when he told Americans to be "good
consumers"?

No, he wanted us to buy more oil.

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I agree with U-Turn, instead of attacking Tyler for wanting to replace
his equipment we should be trying to help him fix it! It'll be a real
pain in the [censored] if he gets another frame and its still all wonky
because of the wheelset.

IMHO It sounds like your wheel might be dished tyler, which means (in
simple terms) the horizontal distance between the tyre/rim and the end
of the hub is different on the two sides of the wheel (the tyre is
skewed towards one side of the hub). The easiest way to check this is
to make up a feeler bar, out of a bit of wood. Using a jigsaw (or a
hacksaw on a thin bit of wood) you need to make up a cresent-moon
shaped bit of wood that touches the tyre (on the tips of the
'cresent'😉) and the tip of the hub spindle on one side of the wheel. If
you then use this same bit of wood on the other side, it should still
touch both sides of the tyre, and the end of the hub spindle. If it
doesn't, the wheel is dished. You can work out in which direction using
your little 'tool' and then go to your LBS and get them to sort it, if
you don't feel up to trying it yourself.

I've got a lecture to go to, but I'll be back on in a couple of hours
with a diagram that might explain things a little better (I've not got
the 15 minutes it'll take to draw it up in Paint Shop).

Loose.

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Loosemoose said:

your wheel might be dished....... The easiest way to check this is to
make up a feeler bar, out of a bit of wood. Using a jigsaw (or a
hacksaw on a thin bit of wood) you need to make up a cresent-moon
shaped bit of wood that touches the tyre (on the tips of the
'cresent'😉) and the tip of the hub spindle on one side of the wheel. If
you then use this same bit of wood on the other side, it should still
touch both sides of the tyre, and the end of the hub spindle. If it
doesn't, the wheel is dished. You can work out in which direction using
your little 'tool' and then go to your LBS and get them to sort it, if
you don't feel up to trying it yourself.

Wouldn't it be easier just to put the wheel in the frame the other way
round and see if it is nearer the opposite fork? If it is still near
the same fork it's probably a frame problem (cure with shim or bending
the fork legs), if it's near the other fork it's probably dished. Of
course that's assuming the bearings are not offset on the axle (i.e.
make sure the hub is an even distance from each fork).

Rob

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