Koxx Longneck Frame

i'd wager the koxx frame wouldn't fit. 42mm vs 40 mm OD bearings.
probably, but that'd be something to check.

i think we're collectively being skeptical with tyler because rather
than find a cheap way around the problem(coke can shims, etc) he'd
rather scrap a (probably) perfectly fine sem frame and get soemthing
else. i wish i had that kind of money. i'm 24 and work 40+ hours/week.
and when i was 12(or however old tyler is) my folks didn't buy me very
many expensive gifts/things. we're assuming(probably correctly based on
other threads) that tyler is a bit spoiled and that bothers most of us.

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rob.northcott said:

Wouldn't it be easier just to put the wheel in the frame the other way
round and see if it is nearer the opposite fork? If it is still near
the same fork it's probably a frame problem (cure with shim or bending
the fork legs), if it's near the other fork it's probably dished. Of
course that's assuming the bearings are not offset on the axle (i.e.
make sure the hub is an even distance from each fork).

Rob

That won't work if the frame is skewed, so instead of being straight
the two legs are parallel but angled. If you 180'd the the wheel in
this case, even if it wasn't dished, the bent frame would make it look
like it was.

Loose.

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There's really no way to distinguish between the three factors of:
dished wheel, different length legs, and a skewed frame, without the
use of external references, such as a known good wheel or frame, a
dishing tool, or a fork alignment tool. An LBS should have both of the
latter.

However, in practical terms, the Sem XL is pretty good on not being
skewed, in my experience.

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Loosemoose said:

That won't work if the frame is skewed, so instead of being straight the
two legs are parallel but angled. If you 180'd the the wheel in this
case, even if it wasn't dished, the bent frame would make it look like
it was.

Loose.

I don't agree with that. If the wheel is symmetrical (i.e. not dished
and the hub is centred between the bearings) then fitting it the other
way round in the frame would make no difference (i.e. the tyre would
still be closer to the same fork leg). If the wheel is off-centre
(dished or offset bearings) then it would be closer to the opposite
fork leg when fitted backwards in the frame.

If reversing the frame makes a difference, it proves the wheelset isn't
symmetrical. I agree that it isn't a way to diagnose the exact problem
but it would show whether the problem was with the wheel or the frame.
Obviously this is assuming the wheel runs true - if it's wobbly and
untrue then it proves nothing.

Rob

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rob.northcott said:

I don't agree with that. If the wheel is symmetrical (i.e. not dished
and the hub is centred between the bearings) then fitting it the other
way round in the frame would make no difference (i.e. the tyre would
still be closer to the same fork leg). If the wheel is off-centre
(dished or offset bearings) then it would be closer to the opposite
fork leg when fitted backwards in the frame.

If reversing the frame makes a difference, it proves the wheelset isn't
symmetrical. I agree that it isn't a way to diagnose the exact problem
but it would show whether the problem was with the wheel or the frame.
Obviously this is assuming the wheel runs true - if it's wobbly and
untrue then it proves nothing.

Rob

This approach is true only if the legs are the same length. If all
three conditions exist, then the symptoms are not determined by
reversing the wheel. This is why, when I build, rebuild, repair, or
true wheels, I use a dishing tool extensively.

If one is interested in getting a decent unicycle solution at low cost,
then simply messing around with shims can accomplish a lot and usually
get the rider going quickly and reliably. If one is interested in
having a nearly perfect wheel alignment (there are good reasons for
this, including efficiency and the use of brakes), then one must
carefully and precisely control the various wheel and frame dimensions
using external measurement and alignment devices.

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U-Turn said:

This approach is true only if the legs are the same length. If all
three conditions exist, then the symptoms are not determined by
reversing the wheel.

I didn't claim you could diagnose WHAT the problem with the frame is by
reversing the frame (of course it could be skewed, unequal length legs,
bent in some other way, any combination of those) but I'm absolutely
sure that it will show whether the wheel or the frame is the problem.
If the wheel is centred (hub evenly spaced between the bearings and
wheel not dished) then reversing the frame will make no difference to
the position of the tyre between the fork legs. If the position of the
tyre between the forks changes then the wheel isn't centred (i.e. it is
dished, or the bearings aren't even on the axle). I'm not claiming to
have years of wheelbuilding experience, and I'm happy to be proven
wrong, but I can't see how the state of the frame changes anything in
this simple test. Either the wheelset is symmetrical (so reversing it
makes no difference) or it isn't (so reversing it does make a
difference).

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I've made up a little info page article thing on my website, link is:
http://www.one-wheel.net/articles/WheelIssues.html

Most of the info is correct I think, I might need some pointers as to
the best ways to fix the problems. And if there are any other
particularly prevalent wheel-based problems you think I should put in
it then let me know. Hope this helps.

Loose.

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If it dosn't affect your riding whats the problem?

Some guy at CMW rode a profile/gazz/Hunter around the whole weekend
with his tire rubbing pretty good on one side of the frame.

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Evan Byrne said:

If it dosn't affect your riding whats the problem?

Some guy at CMW rode a profile/gazz/Hunter around the whole weekend
with his tire rubbing pretty good on one side of the frame.

Andrew Carter recently made a rainy day muni video with his tire like
that, and split open bearing casings.

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Evan Byrne said:

Some guy at CMW rode a profile/gazz/Hunter around the whole weekend
with his tire rubbing pretty good on one side of the frame.

You have to admit there´s a difference between brute force MUniing and
freestyle. I don´t think you could freestyle very well with a tyre
rubbing the frame.

But since Tyler´s tyre isn´t rubbing the frame I think theres n big
dealy.

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I think a problem with the Koxx frame ist that it is build in the nimbus
style, in my eyes that sucks for freestyle, because stand up tricks
hurts you feets much faster.

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