Pain! Is it the shoes?

NA said:

. Could this be the shoes and these
are my adjustment pains while "breaking them in"? or could this mean that
the shoes just aren't meant for me? or could this mean?

Could be either, but it's always a good idea to wear shoes just
walking around for a few days first, just to break them in. It lets
them stretch, and lets your muscles get used to them, as well as
giving you some rub marks on places like your toes where you might end
upo blistered, therefore letting you cover those areas ahead of time.
You DID buy them a size or two larger than your atreet shoes, right?

I will take your advice and wear them for a few days thank you.

I can't buy them one or two sizes larger than normal because I wear size 13
shoes, it is difficult to find size 14.

Thank you for taking the time to answer my question,
NA.

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NA said:

. Could this be the shoes and these
are my adjustment pains while "breaking them in"? or could this mean that
the shoes just aren't meant for me? or could this mean?

Could be either, but it's always a good idea to wear shoes just
walking around for a few days first, just to break them in. It lets
them stretch, and lets your muscles get used to them, as well as
giving you some rub marks on places like your toes where you might end
upo blistered, therefore letting you cover those areas ahead of time.
You DID buy them a size or two larger than your atreet shoes, right?

NA said:

I will take your advice and wear them for a few days thank you.

I can't buy them one or two sizes larger than normal because I wear size 13
shoes, it is difficult to find size 14.

Hmm, that is a problem, but it is very important that your running
shoes be at least a size larger than your street shoes, so this maybe
your blistering problem.

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Thank you for taking the time to answer my question,
NA.

You're welcome.

Did you try finding them online?
That's what I've done when I know the exact size & model of shoe I want.
bj

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So when the Saucony Grid Vantage TR's died after a year, I went out to buy
another pair of the exact same shoes but they had no more in my size and
the store was not getting anymore in.

I am in Canada so my options are kind of limited due to duties/taxes. I
think I will just go to my local mall and get another pair of Saucony's.

Thanks,
NA.

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Did you try finding them online?
That's what I've done when I know the exact size & model of shoe I want.
bj

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So when the Saucony Grid Vantage TR's died after a year, I went out to
buy another pair of the exact same shoes but they had no more in my size
and the store was not getting anymore in.

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For a year I ran in Saucony Grid Vantage TR shoes. They were great shoes,
the best running shoes I have ever owned. I am a neutral runner with bad
knees so I like alot of cushion.
So when the Saucony Grid Vantage TR's died after a year, I went out to buy
another pair of the exact same shoes but they had no more in my size and
the store was not getting anymore in.

So I was forced to go out and look for new shoes for the right price. I
tried on Saucony, Asics, Adidas, Nike etc. The pair of shoes that I liked
the best were the:
Adidas Meadows Trail Control Shoes (809582)
http://thestore.adidas.com/cgi-bin/adilive/b2c/product.w?style=E3488&nocache%3D63039

While I've loved Adidas trail shoes, they are not your Sauconys. IMO,
these trail-trainers are overrated or at least overhyped w.r.t the
difference between them and a semi-normal training shoe. They don't provide
much extra traction, but they do generally have more sturdy soles that
handle sharp rocks better.
I would try them another day, and if they don't soften to your feet get
rid of them. Go back to what works, or maybe a Saucony similar to your last
pair but with a slightly more aggressive sole tread.

Dave

David Geesaman said:

While I've loved Adidas trail shoes, they are not your Sauconys.

Correct, Saucony is a few notches lower in quality that Adidas,
generally speaking.

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IMO,
these trail-trainers are overrated or at least overhyped w.r.t the
difference between them and a semi-normal training shoe. They don't provide
much extra traction, but they do generally have more sturdy soles that
handle sharp rocks better.

Traction is highly overrated unless you're running on mud.

Quoted message said:

I would try them another day, and if they don't soften to your feet get
rid of them. Go back to what works, or maybe a Saucony similar to your last
pair but with a slightly more aggressive sole tread.

It takes more than a few days to test a new shoe. The muscles can take
as much as 2 weeks to adjust.
All the above is assuming that the shoes are at fault. I believe the
change in surfaces is a much more likely cause. Stay running on the TM
with the new shoes for a week, then take another look at the
situation.
TheBillRodgers

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David Geesaman said:

While I've loved Adidas trail shoes, they are not your Sauconys.

Correct, Saucony is a few notches lower in quality that Adidas,
generally speaking.

Adidas is not superior to Saucony. The Adidas last just happens to fit
my goofy foot better. These brands are equal in quality IME. Nike is the
only brand I've had problems with as far as construction and durability, but
only one or two pairs. Some of you people need to quit worrying about shoes
and focus on running. Find a pair of trainers and racers that work for you,
and just keep buying more as you wear them out. There is no need to
constantly swap from brand to brand or model to model, or suspect you're
"missing out" on something by using what you have.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

IMO,
these trail-trainers are overrated or at least overhyped w.r.t the
difference between them and a semi-normal training shoe. They don't
provide
much extra traction, but they do generally have more sturdy soles that
handle sharp rocks better.

Traction is highly overrated unless you're running on mud.

And I should note, that in mud, these trail shoes aren't particularly
better than another shoe. When it's slick, it's slick, period. Only racing
spikes can alter that situation. I like the trail shoes mostly for running
on loose footing, where your feet benefit from a little more stability and
foot protection.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I would try them another day, and if they don't soften to your feet
get
rid of them. Go back to what works, or maybe a Saucony similar to your
last
pair but with a slightly more aggressive sole tread.

It takes more than a few days to test a new shoe. The muscles can take
as much as 2 weeks to adjust.

That's ridiculous. There should be no need for your muscles to adjust
to a training shoe. If it fits, it fits and I can tell within minutes if it
will rub me raw or work well. The only time I find my muscles making
adaptation is when I change the weight of the shoe - racers do put different
muscles to work, but this discussion is about trainers and trail shoes.

Dave

Thats seems to be one of the unfortunate situations of running.
A manufacturer will either discontinue or change a brand enough
that you have to consider looking at new brands. Also you may
change running terrains or your biomechanics slowly change
over the decades. About half the time I switch models I buy
incorrectly and buy twice. I estimate I've gone through about 84
pairs since 1977 with about seven model changes.

Franky said:

David Geesaman said:

While I've loved Adidas trail shoes, they are not your Sauconys.

Correct, Saucony is a few notches lower in quality that Adidas,
generally speaking.

Quoted message said:

IMO,
these trail-trainers are overrated or at least overhyped w.r.t the
difference between them and a semi-normal training shoe. They don't provide
much extra traction, but they do generally have more sturdy soles that
handle sharp rocks better.

Traction is highly overrated unless you're running on mud.

Quoted message said:

I would try them another day, and if they don't soften to your feet get
rid of them. Go back to what works, or maybe a Saucony similar to your last
pair but with a slightly more aggressive sole tread.

It takes more than a few days to test a new shoe. The muscles can take
as much as 2 weeks to adjust.
All the above is assuming that the shoes are at fault. I believe the
change in surfaces is a much more likely cause. Stay running on the TM
with the new shoes for a week, then take another look at the
situation.
TheBillRodgers

WRONG!

If your new running shoes don't feel right, supporting and protecting
you on the first run or two, then, if possible, return them and get a
different brand/model.

There are enough brands producing enough models to provide comfortable
shoes for nearly anyone.

You should not have to adjust to blisters. It means it a bad fit. Some
muscle aches might happen, but real pain should not.

So to answer the subject question, IMHO, YES it is the shoes.
Whether it is the fit, or the model, it seems to me the root problem is
the shoes.

TheBill's suggestion of walking in them is not really going to help.
Funny, but if NA had come here with the exact same story, except
replace the brand Adidas with Nike, TheBill would have been screaming
for NA to get rid of the new shoes.

Your body is more precious than a pair of wrong shoes. Listen to your
body.

Ed

Franky said:

David Geesaman said:

While I've loved Adidas trail shoes, they are not your Sauconys.

Correct, Saucony is a few notches lower in quality that Adidas,
generally speaking.

Quoted message said:

IMO,
these trail-trainers are overrated or at least overhyped w.r.t the
difference between them and a semi-normal training shoe. They don't provide
much extra traction, but they do generally have more sturdy soles that
handle sharp rocks better.

Traction is highly overrated unless you're running on mud.

Quoted message said:

I would try them another day, and if they don't soften to your feet get
rid of them. Go back to what works, or maybe a Saucony similar to your last
pair but with a slightly more aggressive sole tread.

It takes more than a few days to test a new shoe. The muscles can take
as much as 2 weeks to adjust.
All the above is assuming that the shoes are at fault. I believe the
change in surfaces is a much more likely cause. Stay running on the TM
with the new shoes for a week, then take another look at the
situation.
TheBillRodgers

WRONG!

If your new running shoes don't feel right, supporting and protecting
you on the first run or two, then, if possible, return them and get a
different brand/model.

There are enough brands producing enough models to provide comfortable
shoes for nearly anyone.

You should not have to adjust to blisters. It means it a bad fit. Some
muscle aches might happen, but real pain should not.

So to answer the subject question, IMHO, YES it is the shoes.
Whether it is the fit, or the model, it seems to me the root problem is
the shoes.

TheBill's suggestion of walking in them is not really going to help.
Funny, but if NA had come here with the exact same story, except
replace the brand Adidas with Nike, TheBill would have been screaming
for NA to get rid of the new shoes.

Your body is more precious than a pair of wrong shoes. Listen to your
body.

Ed

Ed Prochak said:

WRONG!

You're a moron Prozac, so why should we listen to you?

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Ed Prochak said:

WRONG!

You're a moron Prozac, so why should we listen to you?

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transplant, too. Please volunteer to be a boner donor:
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Thank you everyone for the input 🙂

NA.

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Thats seems to be one of the unfortunate situations of running.
A manufacturer will either discontinue or change a brand enough
that you have to consider looking at new brands. Also you may
change running terrains or your biomechanics slowly change
over the decades. About half the time I switch models I buy
incorrectly and buy twice. I estimate I've gone through about 84
pairs since 1977 with about seven model changes.

NA said:

About half the time I switch models I buy

Quoted message said:

incorrectly and buy twice. I estimate I've gone through about 84
pairs since 1977 with about seven model changes.

Of course, Rick's an idiot.