Carbon Frame selection

Dans le message de news:[email hidden],
Cat Dailey <[email hidden]> a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré :

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Hey all .... q for the learned masses:

After having probably my best season yet (10,700 miles and counting
until Tues), I find myself in the crappiest position of having to
have knee surgery and 4-6 weeks off (so much for my great base ;<😉
right as I was contemplating racing or the first time in probably 15
years and Master's Nats next season (in PA!-yes, I am a Master's
Fattie wannabe ;>😉
I was planning on buying a new frame this season and am looking for a
monocoque constructed carbon. My dream bike is the Giant TCR
Advanced with the extended seattube, but it will not be imported to
the US this year, and will likely be unavailable as a frame only in
Europe due to high demand. I saw that BH makes a very similar (probably
same factory in Taiwan)
frame, but they aren't sold in the US and they don't respond to email
requests for some reason (maybe non-English speaking?)

Since I am left with non-extended seat tube bikes, and am a little
peeved at Giant, can you guys help me out with some brands that I
should look at? I have absolutely no interest in Trek, and I don't
care for the webbed lugs of the Calfee. I do want a really light
frame (for 130 lb female, 54stx55tt) and prefer non-compact, but I
think I am stuck with compact. I checked out Cervelo, and am
interested in the R3, but there's no information about it yet on
their website. What else should I be considering?
This could be a fun and motivating project during my recovery. Thanks in
advance for helping me out!

Cat

Bettini and Boonen think TIME is not too bad a frame. And it has the
cut-once VERY CAREFULLY weird extended seat tube you crave.

http://www.timesport.fr/fr/accueil.htm

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Bonne route !

Sandy
Verneuil-sur-Seine FR

"Sandy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Dans le message de news:[email hidden],
Cat Dailey <[email hidden]> a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré :

Quoted message said:

(cross-posted to .misc)
Hey all .... q for the learned masses:

After having probably my best season yet (10,700 miles and counting
until Tues), I find myself in the crappiest position of having to
have knee surgery and 4-6 weeks off (so much for my great base ;<😉
right as I was contemplating racing or the first time in probably 15
years and Master's Nats next season (in PA!-yes, I am a Master's
Fattie wannabe ;>😉
I was planning on buying a new frame this season and am looking for a
monocoque constructed carbon. My dream bike is the Giant TCR
Advanced with the extended seattube, but it will not be imported to
the US this year, and will likely be unavailable as a frame only in
Europe due to high demand. I saw that BH makes a very similar (probably
same factory in Taiwan)
frame, but they aren't sold in the US and they don't respond to email
requests for some reason (maybe non-English speaking?)

Since I am left with non-extended seat tube bikes, and am a little
peeved at Giant, can you guys help me out with some brands that I
should look at? I have absolutely no interest in Trek, and I don't
care for the webbed lugs of the Calfee. I do want a really light
frame (for 130 lb female, 54stx55tt) and prefer non-compact, but I
think I am stuck with compact. I checked out Cervelo, and am
interested in the R3, but there's no information about it yet on
their website. What else should I be considering?
This could be a fun and motivating project during my recovery. Thanks in
advance for helping me out!

Cat

Bettini and Boonen think TIME is not too bad a frame. And it has the
cut-once VERY CAREFULLY weird extended seat tube you crave.

http://www.timesport.fr/fr/accueil.htm

--
Bonne route !

Sandy
Verneuil-sur-Seine FR

Thanks Sandy! I had forgotten about Time, probably because they seem on the
heavy side for what I am looking for, but definitely worth a second look.
And one man's weirdness is another man's lust, or something like that ;>
For me, it's all about aesthetics. I have no other excuse. I've ridden Ti,
aluminum, carbon, carbon/aluminum, and other than weight, it's really all
about how it looks to me.

Cat

"Cat Dailey" <[email hidden]> wrote

Ask in rec.bicycles.tech for all your cycling needs.

"Jim Flom" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"Cat Dailey" <[email hidden]> wrote

Ask in rec.bicycles.tech for all your cycling needs.

I wasn't sure, but it didn't really seem to be a technical question to me :>

Cat

Cat Dailey said:

can you guys help me out with some brands that I should look at?

Best very light frame is the Scott CR1. (<- that's a period).
Don't get the elliptical chainrings, though.

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"Ewoud Dronkert" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Cat Dailey said:

can you guys help me out with some brands that I should look at?

Best very light frame is the Scott CR1. (<- that's a period).
Don't get the elliptical chainrings, though.

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E. Dronkert

Another great suggestion! See, I knew you guys could help ;> So far:

Time, Orbea, Scott

Cat

Cat Dailey said:

(cross-posted to .misc)

No it wasn't, your post was only posted this newsgroup. Maybe you posted
it there as well, but that's multi-posting and undesirable.

By the by, some heavy cross-posting going on in alt.b.m.s, at the moment.

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E. Dronkert

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I don't care for the webbed lugs of the Calfee.

Are you buying it to ride or to hang on your wall? With Calfee you also
have a chance that if you munch the frame they can fix it. If you have
an issue with a Euro frame you might get some help but good luck. I'm
biased since I ride a Calfee and just bought one for the wife, but one
really should choose a frame based on performance.

Choice in Carbon depends on what type of ride you want. Frames like the
Calfee and Look tend to feel more like a good steel bike than monocoque
frames. Depends what you like and I highly suggest real test rides
prior to shelling out the cash since the bikes you are looking at are
not cheap.

If I were looking at Carbon frames today it would come down to the
Calfee, Look or Scott frames. My dad is currently on the top end Giant,
and dollar per dollar that bike is a huge value.

You might do well to look at other materials as well. Carbon is great
for some applications and riders but if you'll be doing short races you
might want to go with steel or TI as those frames may feel more
"lively" to you. In TI I would personally go with Moots. In steel,
Richie is the master but I am enamored of the new Independent Fab
bikes.

Good luck with the surgery and very impressive mileage. I did 6K this
year and thought that was pretty good. 10K is way out there.

Mark

Kestrel Evoke or Talon SL are pretty sweet. The internal cables on the
Talon make maintenance more difficult, and they slap on the tubes
creating noise (I've practically eliminated that on mine with a little
work), but they look good, and the bike can double as a TT bike in a pinch.

Wayne

Jim Flom said:

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Ask in rec.bicycles.tech for all your cycling needs.

Cat Dailey wrote:>

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I wasn't sure, but it didn't really seem to be a technical question to me :>

Yes but they will give you a 500 post thread on whats the optimal way
to patch a tube.

"Mark" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I don't care for the webbed lugs of the Calfee.

Are you buying it to ride or to hang on your wall? With Calfee you also
have a chance that if you munch the frame they can fix it. If you have
an issue with a Euro frame you might get some help but good luck. I'm
biased since I ride a Calfee and just bought one for the wife, but one
really should choose a frame based on performance.

Choice in Carbon depends on what type of ride you want. Frames like the
Calfee and Look tend to feel more like a good steel bike than monocoque
frames. Depends what you like and I highly suggest real test rides
prior to shelling out the cash since the bikes you are looking at are
not cheap.

If I were looking at Carbon frames today it would come down to the
Calfee, Look or Scott frames. My dad is currently on the top end Giant,
and dollar per dollar that bike is a huge value.

You might do well to look at other materials as well. Carbon is great
for some applications and riders but if you'll be doing short races you
might want to go with steel or TI as those frames may feel more
"lively" to you. In TI I would personally go with Moots. In steel,
Richie is the master but I am enamored of the new Independent Fab
bikes.

Good luck with the surgery and very impressive mileage. I did 6K this
year and thought that was pretty good. 10K is way out there.

Mark

Parlee.
Hey - thanks for reading.
e-RICHIE©T®

Jim Flom said:

Quoted message said:

Ask in rec.bicycles.tech for all your cycling needs.

Cat Dailey wrote:>

Quoted message said:

I wasn't sure, but it didn't really seem to be a technical question to me :>

Yes but they will give you a 500 post thread on whats the optimal way
to patch a tube.

"Donald Munro" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Jim Flom said:

Quoted message said:

Ask in rec.bicycles.tech for all your cycling needs.

Cat Dailey wrote:>

Quoted message said:

I wasn't sure, but it didn't really seem to be a technical question to me
:>

Yes but they will give you a 500 post thread on whats the optimal way
to patch a tube.

The horror <grin>. Does anyone really still patch those things? And admit
it by posting about it?

Cat the consumer of tubes

Cat Dailey said:

One party who replied even asked me if I was going
to "ride it or hang it on the wall." I guess the part about me riding over
10,000 miles this year (and it is still November) was missed by at least one
reader.

he didn't miss it. later in his post he wrote to you:

"Good luck with the surgery and very impressive mileage. I did 6K this
year and thought that was pretty good. 10K is way out there."

i think he was trying to make another point with his question about
riding it or hanging it on the wall, not trying to flame you.

heather

"h squared" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Cat Dailey said:

One party who replied even asked me if I was going to "ride it or hang
it on the wall." I guess the part about me riding over 10,000 miles this
year (and it is still November) was missed by at least one reader.

he didn't miss it. later in his post he wrote to you:

"Good luck with the surgery and very impressive mileage. I did 6K this
year and thought that was pretty good. 10K is way out there."

i think he was trying to make another point with his question about riding
it or hanging it on the wall, not trying to flame you.

heather

Thanks H, I saw that, but I was frankly a little confused by his post. I
hate it when I am very specific about something (i.e.: help me out with some
carbon frame manufacturers so I can amuse myself while recovering from
surgery) and someone goes off on maybe you should consider other materials,
what do you want to do with it, etc etc. I didn't think it was a flame,
either, just didn't know what it was. But, in any event, good riding to you
and keep your fingers crossed for me on Tues, or chant, or say a prayer, or
something, if you feel you'd like to send out some happy thoughts to a
hurtin' cyclist pal ;>

Cat

Cat Dailey said:

"Ewoud Dronkert" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Cat Dailey said:

can you guys help me out with some brands that I should look at?

Best very light frame is the Scott CR1. (<- that's a period).
Don't get the elliptical chainrings, though.

--
E. Dronkert

Another great suggestion! See, I knew you guys could help ;> So far:

Time, Orbea, Scott

Cat

Bianchi.

Cat Dailey said:

if you feel you'd like to send out some happy thoughts to a
hurtin' cyclist pal ;>

well, of course, even though i still think of you as a skater 🙂 there's
a reason that i'm riding a stupid trainer instead of outside running 10
or 20 miles (dumbass knee of my own). i'm also terrified of surgery (not
that you should be, i'm just neurotic), so i can't help but sympathize
and hope it goes as well as it can for you.

heather

Look

http://www.bikyle.com/Look2005.asp

"Cat Dailey" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Thanks Sandy! I had forgotten about Time, probably because they seem on
the heavy side for what I am looking for, but definitely worth a second
look. And one man's weirdness is another man's lust, or something like
that ;> For me, it's all about aesthetics. I have no other excuse. I've
ridden Ti, aluminum, carbon, carbon/aluminum, and other than weight, it's
really all about how it looks to me.

Most of the people I've talked to about Time frames rave about them. I can
tell you that I bought a Look KG241 for a beater bike and I'm really
surprised at how good it handles. It's absolutely smooth riding and on
downhills I'll be thinking I'm riding at 25 or so and when I look at the
speedo it's showing 35.

I don't know if the latest Look frames ride that well but I suspect they do.
Of course I ride a 60 cm c-c frame and the shorter version you ride might
handle completely different. That's something to think about - unless
someone is about your size and weight their opinions might not jibe with
yours.

Tom