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  1. A couple months ago, one of the local vocal vegetarians had a letter to
    the editor published in the local newspaper. The letter tried to smear
    Dr. Atkinks, dredging up the old nonsense on his autopsy weight,
    banruptcy of Atkins Nutritionals, etc and trying to make the case that
    LC is totally bad. I sent in a letter in response, pointing out the
    correct facts.

    The interesting thing at the time was that a couple of other folks on
    here reported seeing virtually identical letter from other writers in
    their local newspapers, indicating that this was a coordinated letter
    writing campaign, orchestrated by the militant vegan organizations.

    Well, in today's paper, the same schmuck has a letter published
    claiming that to conserve energy, we need to give up eating meat and
    dairy products. He claims 15% of our fossil fuel energy is being used
    to grow and process meat and dairy products. Of course, even if this
    statistic is correct, it doesn't show that eliminating these products
    will save much, if any energy, as there is no comparison to any
    alternative foods. Last time I checked it still takes energy to grow,
    manufacture, refrigerate and transport tofu too. But it does show the
    desperation of these whackos. They will try to use any angle to
    advance their cause.

    I'd be curious if anyone sees this same letter in their local papers
    this time too.

  2. <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    A couple months ago, one of the local vocal vegetarians had a letter to
    the editor published in the local newspaper. The letter tried to smear
    Dr. Atkinks, dredging up the old nonsense on his autopsy weight,
    banruptcy of Atkins Nutritionals, etc and trying to make the case that
    LC is totally bad. I sent in a letter in response, pointing out the
    correct facts.

    The interesting thing at the time was that a couple of other folks on
    here reported seeing virtually identical letter from other writers in
    their local newspapers, indicating that this was a coordinated letter
    writing campaign, orchestrated by the militant vegan organizations.

    Well, in today's paper, the same schmuck has a letter published
    claiming that to conserve energy, we need to give up eating meat and
    dairy products. He claims 15% of our fossil fuel energy is being used
    to grow and process meat and dairy products. Of course, even if this
    statistic is correct, it doesn't show that eliminating these products
    will save much, if any energy, as there is no comparison to any
    alternative foods. Last time I checked it still takes energy to grow,
    manufacture, refrigerate and transport tofu too. But it does show the
    desperation of these whackos. They will try to use any angle to
    advance their cause.

    I'd be curious if anyone sees this same letter in their local papers
    this time too.

    Was it a form letter? That living' la vida low carb guy pointed out that
    many of these are just fill in the blank form letters. Many of the
    anti-Atkins letters are the exact same letters with different names.

    We should all work on discrediting these people.

  3. [email hidden] wrote:
    || A couple months ago, one of the local vocal vegetarians had a
    || letter to the editor published in the local newspaper. The
    || letter tried to smear Dr. Atkinks, dredging up the old
    || nonsense on his autopsy weight, banruptcy of Atkins
    || Nutritionals, etc and trying to make the case that LC is
    || totally bad. I sent in a letter in response, pointing out
    || the correct facts.
    ||
    || The interesting thing at the time was that a couple of other
    || folks on here reported seeing virtually identical letter from
    || other writers in their local newspapers, indicating that this
    || was a coordinated letter writing campaign, orchestrated by
    || the militant vegan organizations.
    ||
    || Well, in today's paper, the same schmuck has a letter
    || published claiming that to conserve energy, we need to give
    || up eating meat and dairy products. He claims 15% of our
    || fossil fuel energy is being used to grow and process meat and
    || dairy products. Of course, even if this statistic is
    || correct, it doesn't show that eliminating these products will
    || save much, if any energy, as there is no comparison to any
    || alternative foods. Last time I checked it still takes energy
    || to grow, manufacture, refrigerate and transport tofu too.
    || But it does show the desperation of these whackos. They will
    || try to use any angle to advance their cause.
    ||
    || I'd be curious if anyone sees this same letter in their local
    || papers this time too.

    I suspect that these people have brain deficiencies associated
    with
    the lack of a proper diet. :-)

    --
    "Hope can be a wonderful healer - or a dangerous diversion from
    true knowledge." -- (?)

  4. The thing that always puzzled me about the far-out vegetarians is the
    question of what do they think would happen to all of the food animals if
    the populace no longer ate meat? Do they think people would keep around
    herds of cattle because cattle are cute? Do they think chicken farmers would
    continue to feed chicken because they just like birds?

    What would happen if suddenly people were competing with animals for grains
    and vegetables? And how would these vegetarians feed their companion pets
    such as cats and dogs who are carnivores? It seems to me that vegetarians
    pushing for elimination of meat from our diets have not thought this through
    to its logical end.

    Pat in TX

  5. "Pat" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    The thing that always puzzled me about the far-out vegetarians is the
    question of what do they think would happen to all of the food animals if
    the populace no longer ate meat? Do they think people would keep around
    herds of cattle because cattle are cute? Do they think chicken farmers


    would

    Quoted message said:

    continue to feed chicken because they just like birds?

    What would happen if suddenly people were competing with animals for


    grains

    Quoted message said:

    and vegetables? And how would these vegetarians feed their companion pets
    such as cats and dogs who are carnivores? It seems to me that vegetarians
    pushing for elimination of meat from our diets have not thought this


    through

    Quoted message said:

    to its logical end.

    Pat in TX

    I love that angle! 🙂

  6. Pat <[email hidden]> wrote:
    || The thing that always puzzled me about the far-out
    || vegetarians is the question of what do they think would
    || happen to all of the food animals if the populace no longer
    || ate meat? Do they think people would keep around herds of
    || cattle because cattle are cute? Do they think chicken farmers
    || would continue to feed chicken because they just like birds?
    ||
    || What would happen if suddenly people were competing with
    || animals for grains and vegetables? And how would these
    || vegetarians feed their companion pets such as cats and dogs
    || who are carnivores? It seems to me that vegetarians pushing
    || for elimination of meat from our diets have not thought this
    || through to its logical end.
    ||
    || Pat in TX

    Some of them don't believe that dogs and cats are natural
    carnivores and feed them vegetarian diets. Frankly, they
    don't do well.

    --
    "Life is hard. It's even harder if you're stupid." - Anonymous

  7. we should write form letters to the editor as well. Make it easy to do.
    Maybe, eventually, the editors of the papers' letters page will stop
    printing form letters.

    Joe the Aroma said:

    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    A couple months ago, one of the local vocal vegetarians had a letter to
    the editor published in the local newspaper. The letter tried to smear
    Dr. Atkinks, dredging up the old nonsense on his autopsy weight,
    banruptcy of Atkins Nutritionals, etc and trying to make the case that
    LC is totally bad. I sent in a letter in response, pointing out the
    correct facts.

    The interesting thing at the time was that a couple of other folks on
    here reported seeing virtually identical letter from other writers in
    their local newspapers, indicating that this was a coordinated letter
    writing campaign, orchestrated by the militant vegan organizations.

    Well, in today's paper, the same schmuck has a letter published
    claiming that to conserve energy, we need to give up eating meat and
    dairy products. He claims 15% of our fossil fuel energy is being used
    to grow and process meat and dairy products. Of course, even if this
    statistic is correct, it doesn't show that eliminating these products
    will save much, if any energy, as there is no comparison to any
    alternative foods. Last time I checked it still takes energy to grow,
    manufacture, refrigerate and transport tofu too. But it does show the
    desperation of these whackos. They will try to use any angle to
    advance their cause.

    I'd be curious if anyone sees this same letter in their local papers
    this time too.

    Was it a form letter? That living' la vida low carb guy pointed out that
    many of these are just fill in the blank form letters. Many of the
    anti-Atkins letters are the exact same letters with different names.

    We should all work on discrediting these people.

  8. "Was it a form letter?"

    How am I supposed to know if it was a form letter?

  9. I was making a rhetorical point.

    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Was it a form letter?"

    How am I supposed to know if it was a form letter?

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