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I forgot to add that I rarely feel hungry. I force myself to eat
breakfast, sometimes can't manage lunch, and then force myself to eat
dinner.

I remember last time I was ravenously hungry for the first 4 days on
induction, and then it waned into a normal eating pattern. I would say
it has a lot to do with the drug I'm on. Actually it is supposed to
make people very hungry and crave carbs, but it doesn't do that for
me.

I'm thinking of going back to induction, forcing myself to eat 3 meals
a day, or 5 small ones and see if that doesn't start some weight loss.

On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 20:53:20 GMT, yuluwirri <[email hidden]>

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First two weeks, I did the same thing but without the nuts and low
carb ice-cream.

Can you see anywhere I could be mucking up the Atkins plan?

Breakfast: 2 eggs, full cream, and grated tasty cheese made into
scrambled eggs. On Saturday and Sunday, I have bacon, 1 egg, 1 tomato,
a few mushrooms.

Lunch: Gourmet lettuce, sliced olives, sundried tomatoes or real
tomatoes, tasty cheese, avocado and either ham or chicken. This is a
small serving and I drizzle a little cold-pressed olive oil over it.

Sometimes I am not hungry for lunch, so I will have some macadamia's
or some cashews instead of the salad.

Dinner: 1. A piece of meat or chicken, either broccoli or zucchini,
and a piece of pumpkin (small serving). Sometimes I will put some
tasty cheese over the vegetables - or
2. Atkins quiche and zucchini or broccoli - or
3. Meat and salad with 1/2 boiled egg. (same salad as lunch but with
celery, salad onion and fetta cheese added)

Dessert: Either small serve diet jelly with full cream, or a small
serve of Low Carb Ice-Cream @ 4.7g per 100g.

Some days I do without dessert and have a bowl full of nuts instead.

I wonder if the nuts are causing me not to lose weight? It would mean
that my allowance of carbs has come down considerably since the last
time I did Atkins, but I may need to stay at or below 20g for weight
loss to occur. I don't know if I could do it, I honestly don't. Could
I stick with this for a life-time? Not more nuts, nor dessert?

I just don't think it would be doable for me in all honesty. The
reason I loved Atkins so much is that I could, ever so slowly, start
adding a few carbs here and there. You could have a few treats and not
muck up the plan, but if I have to stick to 20gs or below I think I'm
buggered.

TIA,

--
yuluwirri
~~~~~~~
Fish know.
~~~~~~~

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yuluwirri <[email hidden]> wrote:
:> x-no-archive: yes
:>
:> I forgot to add that I rarely feel hungry. I force myself to eat
:> breakfast, sometimes can't manage lunch, and then force myself to eat
:> dinner.

There you go: don't force yourself to eat. Just eat when/if you get hungry.

:>
:> I remember last time I was ravenously hungry for the first 4 days on
:> induction, and then it waned into a normal eating pattern. I would
:> say it has a lot to do with the drug I'm on. Actually it is supposed
:> to make people very hungry and crave carbs, but it doesn't do that
:> for me.
:>
:> I'm thinking of going back to induction, forcing myself to eat 3
:> meals a day, or 5 small ones and see if that doesn't start some
:> weight loss.

Try small meals but only eat if you're hungry.

"yuluwirri" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I wonder if the nuts are causing me not to lose weight?

Well, it depends how big your bowls are - but what you listed sounds very
sensible to me, low carb and not silly on the calorie front either. Two
possible thoughts; could you try eating the same amount but over, say, 5
meals in the day, to give your metabolism a boost? Or try shaking up your
calorie count - if you really are eating pretty well the same amount of
caolories every day, try going 200 up for a couple of days. Sounds wierd,
but it's broken stalls for me! Ah - thought 3 - do you like green tea?
That's supposed to be another metabolism booster.

And unless you feel you're pigging out, I'd stick to the nuts. There's lots
of studies that say that people who snack on a handful of good, healthy nuts
(not peanuts, but almonds or walnuts generally) eat less calories than
people who don't.

Nicky.

--
A1c 10.5/5.6/<6 T2 DX 05/2004
1g Metformin, 100ug Thyroxine
95/74/72Kg

yuluwirri said:

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First two weeks, I did the same thing but without the nuts and low
carb ice-cream.

Can you see anywhere I could be mucking up the Atkins plan?

Breakfast: 2 eggs, full cream, and grated tasty cheese made into
scrambled eggs. On Saturday and Sunday, I have bacon, 1 egg, 1 tomato,
a few mushrooms.

Lunch: Gourmet lettuce, sliced olives, sundried tomatoes or real
tomatoes, tasty cheese, avocado and either ham or chicken. This is a
small serving and I drizzle a little cold-pressed olive oil over it.

Sometimes I am not hungry for lunch, so I will have some macadamia's
or some cashews instead of the salad.

Dinner: 1. A piece of meat or chicken, either broccoli or zucchini,
and a piece of pumpkin (small serving). Sometimes I will put some
tasty cheese over the vegetables - or
2. Atkins quiche and zucchini or broccoli - or
3. Meat and salad with 1/2 boiled egg. (same salad as lunch but with
celery, salad onion and fetta cheese added)

Dessert: Either small serve diet jelly with full cream, or a small
serve of Low Carb Ice-Cream @ 4.7g per 100g.

Some days I do without dessert and have a bowl full of nuts instead.

I wonder if the nuts are causing me not to lose weight? It would mean
that my allowance of carbs has come down considerably since the last
time I did Atkins, but I may need to stay at or below 20g for weight
loss to occur. I don't know if I could do it, I honestly don't. Could
I stick with this for a life-time? Not more nuts, nor dessert?

I just don't think it would be doable for me in all honesty. The
reason I loved Atkins so much is that I could, ever so slowly, start
adding a few carbs here and there. You could have a few treats and not
muck up the plan, but if I have to stick to 20gs or below I think I'm
buggered.

TIA,

Lay off the tomatoes and cream fat ass. You don't need ice cream either.

You don't understand Atkins, cream and ice cream are both good sources of
fat, good fat. Tomatoes in moderation are good sources of vitamins and
other nutrients.

In news:[email hidden],
James Sawyer <[email hidden]> stated
||
|
| Lay off the tomatoes and cream fat ass. You don't need ice cream
| either.

Ice cream is how you got fat in the first place.

--
You take stupid to a new level. -- MFW

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You don't understand Atkins, cream and ice cream are both good sources of
fat, good fat. Tomatoes in moderation are good sources of vitamins and
other nutrients.

In news:[email hidden],
James Sawyer <[email hidden]> stated
||
|
| Lay off the tomatoes and cream fat ass. You don't need ice cream
| either.

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Roger Zoul said:

yuluwirri <[email hidden]> wrote:
:> x-no-archive: yes
:>
:> I forgot to add that I rarely feel hungry. I force myself to eat
:> breakfast, sometimes can't manage lunch, and then force myself to eat
:> dinner.

There you go: don't force yourself to eat. Just eat when/if you get hungry.

What if I don't feel hungry all day? I mean does it matter if I don't
eat. I wouldn't mind not having something to eat to be honest.

Quoted message said:

:>
:> I remember last time I was ravenously hungry for the first 4 days on
:> induction, and then it waned into a normal eating pattern. I would
:> say it has a lot to do with the drug I'm on. Actually it is supposed
:> to make people very hungry and crave carbs, but it doesn't do that
:> for me.
:>
:> I'm thinking of going back to induction, forcing myself to eat 3
:> meals a day, or 5 small ones and see if that doesn't start some
:> weight loss.

Try small meals but only eat if you're hungry.

Okay. Well that sounds a little more manageable then. Thanks.

--
yuluwirri
~~~~~~~
Fish know.
~~~~~~~

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Nicky said:

"yuluwirri" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I wonder if the nuts are causing me not to lose weight?

Well, it depends how big your bowls are - but what you listed sounds very
sensible to me, low carb and not silly on the calorie front either.

Well that's good to hear 🙂 I sometimes overdo the nuts to be honest.
So I've really pulled back in that area. It's just that it seems
easier for me to be able to actually eat the nuts instead of other
food.

Quoted message said:

Two
possible thoughts; could you try eating the same amount but over, say, 5
meals in the day, to give your metabolism a boost?

Yes! I am going to start this tomorrow. Just tiny little bits of food
throughout the day.

Or try shaking up your

Quoted message said:

calorie count - if you really are eating pretty well the same amount of
caolories every day, try going 200 up for a couple of days. Sounds wierd,
but it's broken stalls for me!

Okay. That's a good idea too.

Quoted message said:

Ah - thought 3 - do you like green tea?

I do indeed.

Quoted message said:

That's supposed to be another metabolism booster.

Excellent. I will add that to the list too.

Quoted message said:

And unless you feel you're pigging out, I'd stick to the nuts. There's lots
of studies that say that people who snack on a handful of good, healthy nuts
(not peanuts, but almonds or walnuts generally) eat less calories than
people who don't.

Well I will reduce my intake of nuts to see if that has any bearing
and I will only buy almonds this coming week. You never know, if I do
all these things I just might be able to budge this stubborn weight.
🙂 Thank you once again.

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Nicky.

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yuluwirri
~~~~~~~
Fish know.
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"yuluwirri" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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You never know, if I do
all these things I just might be able to budge this stubborn weight.

I hope so too. But I don't think you ought to be too discouraged if all you
managed to do is stay in one place. Look at Saffire, she stayed at one
weight for months, but kept plugging; now she's reaping the benefits!

Nicky.

--
A1c 10.5/5.6/<6 T2 DX 05/2004
1g Metformin, 100ug Thyroxine
95/74/72Kg

Your body probably knows about eating. I have been eating 1-2 meals
daily and losing well. Rarely hungry, drink water regularly, take the
fibre, and no problems. If you have to force yourself to eat just
because some poorly conceived science suggests you HAVE to eat three a
day, I don't see the point.

If you don't want to eat at breakfast, don't eat. If you do eat
breakfast, and don't want lunch, don't eat that. See what the results
are.

-Hollywood, who thinks breakfast is largely a conditioning scam.

yuluwirri said:

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Roger Zoul said:

yuluwirri <[email hidden]> wrote:
:> x-no-archive: yes
:>
:> I forgot to add that I rarely feel hungry. I force myself to eat
:> breakfast, sometimes can't manage lunch, and then force myself to eat
:> dinner.

There you go: don't force yourself to eat. Just eat when/if you get hungry.

What if I don't feel hungry all day? I mean does it matter if I don't
eat. I wouldn't mind not having something to eat to be honest.

Quoted message said:

:>
:> I remember last time I was ravenously hungry for the first 4 days on
:> induction, and then it waned into a normal eating pattern. I would
:> say it has a lot to do with the drug I'm on. Actually it is supposed
:> to make people very hungry and crave carbs, but it doesn't do that
:> for me.
:>
:> I'm thinking of going back to induction, forcing myself to eat 3
:> meals a day, or 5 small ones and see if that doesn't start some
:> weight loss.

Try small meals but only eat if you're hungry.

Okay. Well that sounds a little more manageable then. Thanks.

--
yuluwirri
~~~~~~~
Fish know.
~~~~~~~

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yuluwirri <[email hidden]> wrote:
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:>
:> On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 16:44:35 -0500, "Roger Zoul"
:> <[email hidden]> wrote:
:>
:>>yuluwirri <[email hidden]> wrote:
:>>:> x-no-archive: yes
:>>:>
:>>:> I forgot to add that I rarely feel hungry. I force myself to eat
:>>:> breakfast, sometimes can't manage lunch, and then force myself to
:>>:> eat dinner.
:>>
:>>There you go: don't force yourself to eat. Just eat when/if you get
:>>hungry.
:>
:> What if I don't feel hungry all day? I mean does it matter if I don't
:> eat. I wouldn't mind not having something to eat to be honest.

If you're not hungry, don't eat. You'll have a better chance at losing
weight that way. Forcing yourself to eat is a deal killer for weight loss.
Besides, if you follow the rule of "not hungry, don't eat" you'll eventually
get hungry. Some think that it's when you start to feel hunger that you're
losing weight. Also, once you start getting hungry again, don't allow
yourself to go long periods of time being hungry, for that might put you in
danger of eating too much (it depends a lot on you). That's where small
meals work well. Once you get hungry, eat a small meal so kill that hunger
but also not overdo it. Don't eat the next one until you feel hunger again.
And, eat them slowly so that signals have time to get from the stomach to
the brain - saying that you're no longer hungry.

:>
:>>:>
:>>:> I remember last time I was ravenously hungry for the first 4 days
:>>:> on induction, and then it waned into a normal eating pattern. I
:>>:> would
:>>:> say it has a lot to do with the drug I'm on. Actually it is
:>>:> supposed
:>>:> to make people very hungry and crave carbs, but it doesn't do that
:>>:> for me.
:>>:>
:>>:> I'm thinking of going back to induction, forcing myself to eat 3
:>>:> meals a day, or 5 small ones and see if that doesn't start some
:>>:> weight loss.
:>>
:>>Try small meals but only eat if you're hungry.
:>
:> Okay. Well that sounds a little more manageable then. Thanks.
:>
:> --
:> yuluwirri
:> ~~~~~~~
:> Fish know.
:> ~~~~~~~
:>
:> [email hidden]

Not I.

In news:[email hidden],
JC Der Koenig <[email hidden]> stated
| Ice cream is how you got fat in the first place.
|
|
| "FOB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
| news:[email hidden]...
|| You don't understand Atkins, cream and ice cream are both good
|| sources of fat, good fat. Tomatoes in moderation are good sources
|| of vitamins and other nutrients.
||
|| In news:[email hidden],
|| James Sawyer <[email hidden]> stated
||||
|||
||| Lay off the tomatoes and cream fat ass. You don't need ice cream
||| either.

It certainly isn't going to help you get below your mammoth 250+ pounds,
either.

--
You take stupid to a new level. -- MFW

"FOB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Not I.

In news:[email hidden],
JC Der Koenig <[email hidden]> stated
| Ice cream is how you got fat in the first place.
|
|
| "FOB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
| news:[email hidden]...
|| You don't understand Atkins, cream and ice cream are both good
|| sources of fat, good fat. Tomatoes in moderation are good sources
|| of vitamins and other nutrients.
||
|| In news:[email hidden],
|| James Sawyer <[email hidden]> stated
||||
|||
||| Lay off the tomatoes and cream fat ass. You don't need ice cream
||| either.

I don't eat ice cream, even before LC I rarely ate ice cream so it couldn't
possibly make me fat. And I don't weigh 250 either, I am down to 226.

In news:[email hidden],
JC Der Koenig <[email hidden]> stated
| It certainly isn't going to help you get below your mammoth 250+
| pounds, either.
|
|

You don't believe that ice cream contributed to your obesity.

That's exactly why you're obese.

You probably weigh yourself once a year.

--
You take stupid to a new level. -- MFW

"FOB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I don't eat ice cream, even before LC I rarely ate ice cream so it couldn't
possibly make me fat. And I don't weigh 250 either, I am down to 226.

In news:[email hidden],
JC Der Koenig <[email hidden]> stated
| It certainly isn't going to help you get below your mammoth 250+
| pounds, either.
|
|

FOB said:

I don't eat ice cream, even before LC I rarely ate ice cream so it couldn't
possibly make me fat. And I don't weigh 250 either, I am down to 226.

In news:[email hidden],
JC Der Koenig <[email hidden]> stated
| It certainly isn't going to help you get below your mammoth 250+
| pounds, either.
|
|

Are you exercising? I do not take off any weight unless I exercise
regularly so I do every day. low carb or not there is no substitute
(you'll feel better too)

-Mertz

How could it if I didn't eat it?

In news:[email hidden],
JC Der Koenig <[email hidden]> stated
| You don't believe that ice cream contributed to your obesity.
|
| That's exactly why you're obese.
|
| You probably weigh yourself once a year.
|
|
| "FOB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
| news:[email hidden]...
|| I don't eat ice cream, even before LC I rarely ate ice cream so it
|| couldn't possibly make me fat. And I don't weigh 250 either, I am
|| down to 226.
||
|| In news:[email hidden],
|| JC Der Koenig <[email hidden]> stated
||| It certainly isn't going to help you get below your mammoth 250+
||| pounds, either.

No, I don't exercise. I have back problems and can't walk without pain. I
hate to exercise also. I feel better from the weight I have lost already
and am pretty happy, JC is the one who is unhappy with my weight, not I.

In news:[email hidden],
Clark Mertz <[email hidden]> stated
| FOB wrote:
|| I don't eat ice cream, even before LC I rarely ate ice cream so it
|| couldn't possibly make me fat. And I don't weigh 250 either, I am
|| down to 226.
||
|| In news:[email hidden],
|| JC Der Koenig <[email hidden]> stated
||| It certainly isn't going to help you get below your mammoth 250+
||| pounds, either.
|||
|||
||
||
| Are you exercising? I do not take off any weight unless I exercise
| regularly so I do every day. low carb or not there is no substitute
| (you'll feel better too)
|
| -Mertz

You stated that you rarely ate it, which means you did eat it.

No wonder you're obese.

--
You take stupid to a new level. -- MFW

"FOB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

How could it if I didn't eat it?

In news:[email hidden],
JC Der Koenig <[email hidden]> stated
| You don't believe that ice cream contributed to your obesity.
|
| That's exactly why you're obese.
|
| You probably weigh yourself once a year.
|
|
| "FOB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
| news:[email hidden]...
|| I don't eat ice cream, even before LC I rarely ate ice cream so it
|| couldn't possibly make me fat. And I don't weigh 250 either, I am
|| down to 226.
||
|| In news:[email hidden],
|| JC Der Koenig <[email hidden]> stated
||| It certainly isn't going to help you get below your mammoth 250+
||| pounds, either.