Study Needed

"How to disprove the "if you eat less calories than you burn off,
you'll
lose weight theory."

Sorry, but this isn't a theory, it's a fact. If you're burning more
energy than contained in the food you're eating, where do you think the
additonal energy is coming from?

This is very different than the argument that the body may not process
the calories of different types of food with different efficiencies.
For example, if you're burning 2500 calories a day and eat two
different diets containing 2700 calories, I think it's definitely
possible to maintain weight on one, while gaining it on another diet
with the same 2700 calories. But if both diets have 2300 calories,
it's impossible not to lose weight while burning 2500 calories, because
the maximum amount of energy available is less than that be burned.

"How to disprove the "if you eat less calories than you burn off,
you'll
lose weight theory."

Sorry, but this isn't a theory, it's a fact. If you're burning more
energy than contained in the food you're eating, where do you think the
additonal energy is coming from?

This is very different than the argument that the body may not process
the calories of different types of food with different efficiencies.
For example, if you're burning 2500 calories a day and eat two
different diets containing 2700 calories, I think it's definitely
possible to maintain weight on one, while gaining it on another diet
with the same 2700 calories. But if both diets have 2300 calories,
it's impossible not to lose weight while burning 2500 calories, because
the maximum amount of energy available is less than that be burned.

"How to disprove the "if you eat less calories than you burn off,
you'll
lose weight theory."

Sorry, but this isn't a theory, it's a fact. If you're burning more
energy than contained in the food you're eating, where do you think the
additonal energy is coming from?

This is very different than the argument that the body may not process
the calories of different types of food with different efficiencies.
For example, if you're burning 2500 calories a day and eat two
different diets containing 2700 calories, I think it's definitely
possible to maintain weight on one, while gaining it on another diet
with the same 2700 calories. But if both diets have 2300 calories,
it's impossible not to lose weight while burning 2500 calories, because
the maximum amount of energy available is less than that be burned.

Glassman said:

How to disprove the "if you eat less calories than you burn off, you'll
lose weight theory."

You need to phrase that one differently. Phrased as-is
you won't be able to disprove it because it's true.
The key is the number of calories burned is more
variable than most tend to think. You're looking for
studies that show two different diets with the same
total calories, and one triggers better loss than the
other. Lots of those studies are still referenced in
the support section of the Atkins web site.

Quoted message said:

I need to prove that you can eat alot more protein
calories and still lose more weight than a low cal high carb diet. But I
lost the link to the study for this.... thanks!

Glassman said:

How to disprove the "if you eat less calories than you burn off, you'll
lose weight theory."

You need to phrase that one differently. Phrased as-is
you won't be able to disprove it because it's true.
The key is the number of calories burned is more
variable than most tend to think. You're looking for
studies that show two different diets with the same
total calories, and one triggers better loss than the
other. Lots of those studies are still referenced in
the support section of the Atkins web site.

Quoted message said:

I need to prove that you can eat alot more protein
calories and still lose more weight than a low cal high carb diet. But I
lost the link to the study for this.... thanks!

Glassman said:

How to disprove the "if you eat less calories than you burn off, you'll
lose weight theory."

You need to phrase that one differently. Phrased as-is
you won't be able to disprove it because it's true.
The key is the number of calories burned is more
variable than most tend to think. You're looking for
studies that show two different diets with the same
total calories, and one triggers better loss than the
other. Lots of those studies are still referenced in
the support section of the Atkins web site.

Quoted message said:

I need to prove that you can eat alot more protein
calories and still lose more weight than a low cal high carb diet. But I
lost the link to the study for this.... thanks!

Sorry very poorly worded on my part. Atkins said that you can eat more
calories of LC than you can of HC, and still get better results. Or 2000
calories of meat vs 2000 calories of bread will not give the same results.
Is this better?

--
JK Sinrod
Sinrod Stained Glass Studios
www.sinrodstudios.com
Coney Island Memories
www.sinrodstudios.com/coneymemories

Sorry very poorly worded on my part. Atkins said that you can eat more
calories of LC than you can of HC, and still get better results. Or 2000
calories of meat vs 2000 calories of bread will not give the same results.
Is this better?

--
JK Sinrod
Sinrod Stained Glass Studios
www.sinrodstudios.com
Coney Island Memories
www.sinrodstudios.com/coneymemories

Glassman said:

Sorry very poorly worded on my part. Atkins said that you can eat more
calories of LC than you can of HC, and still get better results. Or 2000
calories of meat vs 2000 calories of bread will not give the same results.
Is this better?

To answer your basic question, yes there are studies that are
looking at the low-fat vs low-carb debate.

The one I'm aware of is at Rockefeller University Hospital:

Summary: Volunteers needed to study the effects of low calorie,
high carbohydrate diets vs. low calorie, high fat diets on weight
loss.

What are the objectives:
To compare the effects of 2 low calorie diets on the loss of
abdominal fat, body composition, and cardiovascular risk profile
in overweight individuals.

Who is eligible?
You may be eligible to participate in the study if you are:

* Healthy overweight male or female
* Ages 30-50
* BMI of 30-34.9 or
o Women with BMI of 25-29.9 with a waist circumference
greater than 35 inches or
o Men with BMI of 25-29.9 with a waist circumference
greater than 40 inches

What is involved?

* The study periods include a 10 week inpatient stay at the
Rockefeller University Hospital
* Volunteers stay in comfortable private rooms and will
receive all meals, comprehensive physical exams, and blood tests
at no cost.
* Work or school are allowed during the study upon approval
of the study investigators.
* Compensation is provided upon completion of the study.

Contact:
Rockefeller University Hospital
1230 York Avenue
New York, NY 10022
Telephone: 800-RUCARES (782-2737)
Fax: 212-327-7373

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Glassman said:

Sorry very poorly worded on my part. Atkins said that you can eat more
calories of LC than you can of HC, and still get better results. Or 2000
calories of meat vs 2000 calories of bread will not give the same results.
Is this better?

To answer your basic question, yes there are studies that are
looking at the low-fat vs low-carb debate.

The one I'm aware of is at Rockefeller University Hospital:

Summary: Volunteers needed to study the effects of low calorie,
high carbohydrate diets vs. low calorie, high fat diets on weight
loss.

What are the objectives:
To compare the effects of 2 low calorie diets on the loss of
abdominal fat, body composition, and cardiovascular risk profile
in overweight individuals.

Who is eligible?
You may be eligible to participate in the study if you are:

* Healthy overweight male or female
* Ages 30-50
* BMI of 30-34.9 or
o Women with BMI of 25-29.9 with a waist circumference
greater than 35 inches or
o Men with BMI of 25-29.9 with a waist circumference
greater than 40 inches

What is involved?

* The study periods include a 10 week inpatient stay at the
Rockefeller University Hospital
* Volunteers stay in comfortable private rooms and will
receive all meals, comprehensive physical exams, and blood tests
at no cost.
* Work or school are allowed during the study upon approval
of the study investigators.
* Compensation is provided upon completion of the study.

Contact:
Rockefeller University Hospital
1230 York Avenue
New York, NY 10022
Telephone: 800-RUCARES (782-2737)
Fax: 212-327-7373

--
Rudy - Remove the Z from my address to respond.

"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!"
-Emiliano Zapata

Check out the a.s.d.l-c FAQ at:
http://www.grossweb.com/asdlc/faq.htm