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  1. I recently Googled "Shepherds pie" and was dismayed to find the
    first few recipes were made from beef. Now I know food words vary
    across the Atlantic more than most other things, but a shepherds
    pie with beef is absurd. Thats cottage pie. Cottage pie is
    anything covered in mash, well, not fish obviously.

    Shepherd > sheep > shepherds' pie.
    Cowherd > beef > cottage pie.

    No, no one knows why its "cottage", should have been
    "cowherd/cowboy pie". Perhaps the mash looks like thatch?

    I have even created a page to try and help put things right:-
    "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk/londonfood3.htm"

    Please help me in my quest to stamp out this evil, evil habit by
    putting people right when you come across it. Shed blood if you
    have to, its a noble cause.

    If you have been, thanks for listening.
    --
    Mike Reid
    Walk-eat-UK "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
    Walk-eat-Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap
    Photos of both "http://www.lawn-mower-man.co.uk"

  2. "The Reid" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    I recently Googled "Shepherds pie" and was dismayed to find the
    first few recipes were made from beef. Now I know food words vary
    across the Atlantic more than most other things, but a shepherds
    pie with beef is absurd. Thats cottage pie. Cottage pie is
    anything covered in mash, well, not fish obviously.

    Shepherd > sheep > shepherds' pie.
    Cowherd > beef > cottage pie.

    No, no one knows why its "cottage", should have been
    "cowherd/cowboy pie". Perhaps the mash looks like thatch?

    I have even created a page to try and help put things right:-
    "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk/londonfood3.htm"

    Please help me in my quest to stamp out this evil, evil habit by
    putting people right when you come across it. Shed blood if you
    have to, its a noble cause.

    If you have been, thanks for listening.
    --

    my god mike, thankfully you are putting this EVIL misnomer right....let the
    world be rid of it's shepherd/cottage confusion.....

    🙂

    actually, i never knew the difference!! learn something every day!

    chris in oz

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    Mike Reid
    Walk-eat-UK "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
    Walk-eat-Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a
    spamtrap
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  3. "Mamma Mia" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "The Reid" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    I recently Googled "Shepherds pie" and was dismayed to find the
    first few recipes were made from beef. Now I know food words vary
    across the Atlantic more than most other things, but a shepherds
    pie with beef is absurd. Thats cottage pie. Cottage pie is
    anything covered in mash, well, not fish obviously.

    Shepherd > sheep > shepherds' pie.
    Cowherd > beef > cottage pie.

    No, no one knows why its "cottage", should have been
    "cowherd/cowboy pie". Perhaps the mash looks like thatch?

    I have even created a page to try and help put things right:-
    "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk/londonfood3.htm"

    Please help me in my quest to stamp out this evil, evil habit by
    putting people right when you come across it. Shed blood if you
    have to, its a noble cause.

    If you have been, thanks for listening.
    --

    my god mike, thankfully you are putting this EVIL misnomer
    right....let the world be rid of it's shepherd/cottage confusion.....

    🙂

    actually, i never knew the difference!! learn something every day!

    chris in oz

    Oh chris you MUST know the difference????

  4. Following up to Mamma Mia

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    my god mike, thankfully you are putting this EVIL misnomer right....let the
    world be rid of it's shepherd/cottage confusion.....

    the crusade goes on. Oops, can we say crusade, nowadays?

    The other thing to put right is the shepherd's pie v shepherds'
    pie controversy, don't ever say I shrink from the big issues.

    Quoted message said:

    actually, i never knew the difference!! learn something every day!

    well, glad to be of service :-)
    --
    Mike Reid
    Walk-eat-UK "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
    Walk-eat-Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap
    Photos of both "http://www.lawn-mower-man.co.uk"

  5. The Reid said:

    I recently Googled "Shepherds pie" and was dismayed to find the
    first few recipes were made from beef. Now I know food words vary
    across the Atlantic more than most other things, but a shepherds
    pie with beef is absurd. Thats cottage pie. Cottage pie is
    anything covered in mash, well, not fish obviously.

    Shepherd > sheep > shepherds' pie.

    Absolutely! Lamb or mutton with a top crust! Steak & kidney pie is also...
    steak & kidneys with a top crust.

    'tis why I call my turkey cottage pie, turkey cottage pie. Mashed potatoes
    on the top. Doesn't mean it's not good, though 🙂

    Jill

  6. Following up to jmcquown

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    'tis why I call my turkey cottage pie, turkey cottage pie. Mashed potatoes
    on the top. Doesn't mean it's not good, though 🙂

    indeed, as I understand it, cottage pie is whatever you want to
    put in it, within reason. Rice or polenta would be rather gauche
    though.
    --
    Mike Reid
    Walk-eat-UK "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
    Walk-eat-Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap
    Photos of both "http://www.lawn-mower-man.co.uk"

  7. The Reid said:

    Following up to jmcquown

    Quoted message said:

    'tis why I call my turkey cottage pie, turkey cottage pie. Mashed
    potatoes on the top. Doesn't mean it's not good, though 🙂

    indeed, as I understand it, cottage pie is whatever you want to
    put in it, within reason. Rice or polenta would be rather gauche
    though.

    Absolutely no rice or polenta in cottage pie. Ground beef or ground pork,
    even ground lamb 🙂 Peas and carrots. Rice? Huh... why rice with mashed
    potatoes as a topping?

    Jill

  8. The Reid said:

    I recently Googled "Shepherds pie" and was dismayed to find the
    first few recipes were made from beef. Now I know food words vary
    across the Atlantic more than most other things, but a shepherds
    pie with beef is absurd. Thats cottage pie. Cottage pie is
    anything covered in mash, well, not fish obviously.

    Shepherd > sheep > shepherds' pie.
    Cowherd > beef > cottage pie.

    No, no one knows why its "cottage", should have been
    "cowherd/cowboy pie". Perhaps the mash looks like thatch?

    I have even created a page to try and help put things right:-
    "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk/londonfood3.htm"

    Please help me in my quest to stamp out this evil, evil habit by
    putting people right when you come across it. Shed blood if you
    have to, its a noble cause.

    If you have been, thanks for listening.
    --
    Mike Reid
    Walk-eat-UK "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
    Walk-eat-Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap
    Photos of both "http://www.lawn-mower-man.co.uk


    Call it anything you like , just don't call me late for supper.

    Stranger is the French Canadien name for it (it is Shepard's Pie to the
    English Canadians) - Pate Chinois ... Chinese Pie. Just what is Chinese
    about it I could never figure out. The ingredients certainly aren't and
    even the concpet of a large pie is does not seem ery "Chinese" to me.

    As to the shepard - why eat your sheep when you can get one of those
    dumb ol' cows to mince into a pie ???? :-)
    All chopped up and covered in taties, the cowherd wil be none the wiser.

  9. Following up to jmcquown

    Quoted message said:

    Absolutely no rice or polenta in cottage pie.

    I agree.
    --
    Mike Reid
    Walk-eat-UK "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
    Walk-eat-Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap
    Photos of both "http://www.lawn-mower-man.co.uk"

  10. "The Reid" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    I recently Googled "Shepherds pie" and was dismayed to find the
    first few recipes were made from beef. Now I know food words vary
    across the Atlantic more than most other things, but a shepherds
    pie with beef is absurd. Thats cottage pie. Cottage pie is
    anything covered in mash, well, not fish obviously.

    Shepherd > sheep > shepherds' pie.
    Cowherd > beef > cottage pie.

    No, no one knows why its "cottage", should have been
    "cowherd/cowboy pie". Perhaps the mash looks like thatch?

    Hopefully, not to be confused with "Cowpie" lol

  11. Following up to Seamus

    Quoted message said:

    Stranger is the French Canadien name for it (it is Shepard's Pie to the
    English Canadians) - Pate Chinois ... Chinese Pie. Just what is Chinese
    about it I could never figure out. The ingredients certainly aren't and
    even the concpet of a large pie is does not seem ery "Chinese" to me.

    its supposed to be from exrailway workers in Quebec, as you say
    not very Chinese.
    --
    Mike Reid
    Walk-eat-UK "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
    Walk-eat-Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap
    Photos of both "http://www.lawn-mower-man.co.uk"

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    "The Reid" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    I recently Googled "Shepherds pie" and was dismayed to find the
    first few recipes were made from beef. Now I know food words vary
    across the Atlantic more than most other things, but a shepherds
    pie with beef is absurd. Thats cottage pie. Cottage pie is
    anything covered in mash, well, not fish obviously.

    Shepherd > sheep > shepherds' pie.
    Cowherd > beef > cottage pie.

    No, no one knows why its "cottage", should have been
    "cowherd/cowboy pie". Perhaps the mash looks like thatch?

    Hopefully, not to be confused with "Cowpie" lol

    Desparate Dan.. is that you?

  13. In article <[email hidden]>,

    The Reid said:

    I recently Googled "Shepherds pie" and was dismayed to find the
    first few recipes were made from beef. Now I know food words vary
    across the Atlantic more than most other things, but a shepherds
    pie with beef is absurd. Thats cottage pie. Cottage pie is
    anything covered in mash, well, not fish obviously.

    Be glad it was meat, at least. Evidently, there are shepherds
    tending lentils somewhere, as I've seen several "shepherd's" pie recipes
    that are made of lentils and no meat at all. I've seen a fisherman's
    pie before, made with fish.

    Regards,
    Ranee

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  14. "The Reid" wrote in message

    Quoted message said:

    I recently Googled "Shepherds pie" and was dismayed to find the
    first few recipes were made from beef. Now I know food words vary
    across the Atlantic more than most other things, but a shepherds
    pie with beef is absurd. Thats cottage pie. Cottage pie is
    anything covered in mash, well, not fish obviously.

    Shepherd > sheep > shepherds' pie.
    Cowherd > beef > cottage pie.

    No, no one knows why its "cottage", should have been
    "cowherd/cowboy pie". Perhaps the mash looks like thatch?


    Mike Reid

    LOL. Mike, the shepherd's pie/cottage pie discussion has been held here any
    number of times but I admit the goof still occurs.
    I even have an Irish recipe calling it shepherd's pie but made with beef! I
    won't disclose the author in case he gets beheaded.

    Dora

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    In article <[email hidden]>,

    The Reid said:

    I recently Googled "Shepherds pie" and was dismayed to find the
    first few recipes were made from beef. Now I know food words vary
    across the Atlantic more than most other things, but a shepherds
    pie with beef is absurd. Thats cottage pie. Cottage pie is
    anything covered in mash, well, not fish obviously.

    Be glad it was meat, at least. Evidently, there are shepherds
    tending lentils somewhere, as I've seen several "shepherd's" pie
    recipes
    that are made of lentils and no meat at all.

    LOLOL

    I've seen a fisherman's

    Quoted message said:

    pie before, made with fish.

    yep that is what we make fisherman's pie with🙂)

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    my god mike, thankfully you are putting this EVIL misnomer
    right....let the world be rid of it's shepherd/cottage confusion.....

    🙂

    actually, i never knew the difference!! learn something every day!

    chris in oz

    Oh chris you MUST know the difference????


    Unfortunately here in Australia - at least in NSW where I live - the name
    "shepherd's pie" has also come to be associated with the beef version.
    Most people would be unaware that it's supposed to be lamb.

    Rhonda Anderson
    Cranebrook, NSW, Australia

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    my god mike, thankfully you are putting this EVIL misnomer
    right....let the world be rid of it's shepherd/cottage
    confusion.....

    🙂

    actually, i never knew the difference!! learn something every day!

    chris in oz

    Oh chris you MUST know the difference????


    Unfortunately here in Australia - at least in NSW where I live - the
    name
    "shepherd's pie" has also come to be associated with the beef version.
    Most people would be unaware that it's supposed to be lamb.

    Thank you Rhonda. That is a surprise!

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    my god mike, thankfully you are putting this EVIL misnomer
    right....let the world be rid of it's shepherd/cottage confusion.....

    🙂

    actually, i never knew the difference!! learn something every day!

    chris in oz

    Oh chris you MUST know the difference????


    Unfortunately here in Australia - at least in NSW where I live - the name
    "shepherd's pie" has also come to be associated with the beef version.
    Most people would be unaware that it's supposed to be lamb.

    Rhonda Anderson
    Cranebrook, NSW, Australia

    same here in SA Rhonda,

    though a few people, when I asked them what they thought its origin was,
    admitted that it "used" to be made with leftover lamb roast lol

  19. Following up to limey

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    I even have an Irish recipe calling it shepherd's pie but made with beef! I
    won't disclose the author in case he gets beheaded.

    an Irishman should know better, yes, I knew it comes up from time
    to time but this time I decided to set up a webpage and try and
    get near the top of the ranking to spread light and understanding
    to the ignorant world, such is my mission.
    --
    Mike Reid
    Walk-eat-UK "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
    Walk-eat-Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap
    Photos of both "http://www.lawn-mower-man.co.uk"

  20. Following up to Rhonda Anderson

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    Unfortunately here in Australia - at least in NSW where I live - the name
    "shepherd's pie" has also come to be associated with the beef version.
    Most people would be unaware that it's supposed to be lamb.

    join the crusade, get a car sticker maybe?
    --
    Mike Reid
    Walk-eat-UK "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
    Walk-eat-Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap
    Photos of both "http://www.lawn-mower-man.co.uk"

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