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  1. Do any of you still Believe?
    -DA74

  2. no

  3. DA74 said:

    Do any of you still Believe?
    -DA74

    Why, anything new?

    I have to say with these revelations on micro-dosing and withdrawing blood
    to be re-infused post vampire visit and pre-stage start, it seems more and
    more likely we had a blood bag mixup.

    -jet

  4. DA74 said:

    Do any of you still Believe?
    -DA74

    Oh, forgot to mention. In the Science channel doco on steroid use in
    sports, they were talking about the female sprinter (Kelli White) that
    turned and gave the info that started the Balco scandal. The expert who
    developed the THG test, Don Catlin said that he was surprised that she
    admitted it, and in his experience that even when caught the dopers would
    do everything but admit it. He went on to say that the dopers had taken the
    'art of denial' to a science.

    -jet

  5. Jet said:
    DA74 said:

    Do any of you still Believe?
    -DA74

    Oh, forgot to mention. In the Science channel doco on steroid use in
    sports, they were talking about the female sprinter (Kelli White) that
    turned and gave the info that started the Balco scandal. The expert who
    developed the THG test, Don Catlin said that he was surprised that she
    admitted it, and in his experience that even when caught the dopers would
    do everything but admit it. He went on to say that the dopers had taken the
    'art of denial' to a science.

    Interesting.

    Don Catlin is on record at EPO hearings that the rate of false
    positives for a BPA of 80% is 1 in 500,000. When he gave those
    numbers the problems with the test were known, so he had to
    have known that the numbers he was giving (under oath) were
    horseshit.

    I wonder if he was in denial about the problems with the test.

    I have much less respect for the dope cops than I used to.

    Bob Schwartz

  6. Bob Schwartz said:
    Jet said:
    DA74 said:

    Do any of you still Believe?
    -DA74

    Oh, forgot to mention. In the Science channel doco on steroid use in
    sports, they were talking about the female sprinter (Kelli White) that
    turned and gave the info that started the Balco scandal. The expert who
    developed the THG test, Don Catlin said that he was surprised that she
    admitted it, and in his experience that even when caught the dopers would
    do everything but admit it. He went on to say that the dopers had taken the
    'art of denial' to a science.

    Interesting.

    Don Catlin is on record at EPO hearings that the rate of false
    positives for a BPA of 80% is 1 in 500,000. When he gave those
    numbers the problems with the test were known, so he had to
    have known that the numbers he was giving (under oath) were
    horseshit.

    I'm not synccing with you on BPA. Explain? Burst;Blood...?

    -jet

    Quoted message said:

    I wonder if he was in denial about the problems with the test.

    I have much less respect for the dope cops than I used to.

    Bob Schwartz

  7. Jet said:

    Don Catlin said that he was surprised that she
    admitted it, and in his experience that even when caught the dopers would
    do everything but admit it.

    dumbass,

    that's not true. about half of the people that test positive admit to
    it. even some like millar admit to it even if they don't test positive.

  8. amit said:


    Jet said:

    Don Catlin said that he was surprised that she
    admitted it, and in his experience that even when caught the dopers would
    do everything but admit it.

    dumbass,

    that's not true. about half of the people that test positive admit to
    it. even some like millar admit to it even if they don't test positive.

    Dear Mr Ghosh
    You'll have to take it up with Mr Catlin.

    -jet

  9. Jet said:
    Bob Schwartz said:
    Jet said:

    On 12 Oct 2005 17:37:45 -0700, "DA74" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    >Do any of you still Believe?
    >-DA74

    Oh, forgot to mention. In the Science channel doco on steroid use in
    sports, they were talking about the female sprinter (Kelli White) that
    turned and gave the info that started the Balco scandal. The expert who
    developed the THG test, Don Catlin said that he was surprised that she
    admitted it, and in his experience that even when caught the dopers would
    do everything but admit it. He went on to say that the dopers had taken the
    'art of denial' to a science.

    Interesting.

    Don Catlin is on record at EPO hearings that the rate of false
    positives for a BPA of 80% is 1 in 500,000. When he gave those
    numbers the problems with the test were known, so he had to
    have known that the numbers he was giving (under oath) were
    horseshit.

    I'm not synccing with you on BPA. Explain? Burst;Blood...?

    -jet

    Quoted message said:

    I wonder if he was in denial about the problems with the test.

    I have much less respect for the dope cops than I used to.

    Bob Schwartz

    Sorry, it's BAP, Basic Area Percentage, not BPA. The percentage of
    basic isoforms.

    Bob Schwartz

  10. Jet said:
    DA74 said:

    Do any of you still Believe?
    -DA74

    Why, anything new?

    No, nothing new. I just like to periodically take the pulse of the
    Believers to see if they are starting to crack.

    Brother Magilla - have you turned on the Marblehead Stick Monkey yet?

    Quoted message said:

    I have to say with these revelations on micro-dosing and withdrawing blood
    to be re-infused post vampire visit and pre-stage start, it seems more and
    more likely we had a blood bag mixup.

    -jet

    That's been the inside tip from day one. But don't listen to me. The
    Unich is a much more reliable source.
    -DA74

  11. amit said:
    Jet said:

    Don Catlin said that he was surprised that she
    admitted it, and in his experience that even when caught the dopers would
    do everything but admit it.

    dumbass,

    that's not true. about half of the people that test positive admit to
    it. even some like millar admit to it even if they don't test positive.

    Half?? Time to change the bongwater.
    -DA74, uses Gerolsteiner exclusively

  12. DA74 said:
    Jet said:
    DA74 said:

    Do any of you still Believe?
    -DA74

    Why, anything new?

    No, nothing new. I just like to periodically take the pulse of the
    Believers to see if they are starting to crack.

    Brother Magilla - have you turned on the Marblehead Stick Monkey yet?

    Quoted message said:

    I have to say with these revelations on micro-dosing and withdrawing blood
    to be re-infused post vampire visit and pre-stage start, it seems more and
    more likely we had a blood bag mixup.

    -jet

    That's been the inside tip from day one. But don't listen to me. The
    Unich is a much more reliable source.
    -DA74

    DA74,

    I am still undecided about the Haven harbor captain.

    There's a part of me that really wishes Santi would have just taken the
    time to read the label on the blood bag before asking the team doctor to
    transfuse it back into him....

    ....and then there's a part of me that thinks dogtag is a true victim of
    a bad test by drunk Aussies.

    It will be interestiing to see what the CAS ruling says, although I
    doubt it will convince me either way. After all, lawyers are not
    qualified to validate this test.

    Magilla

  13. I am surprised you can spell "chimera" without copy/pasting it!

    -Ken

  14. k.papai said:

    I am surprised you can spell "chimera" without copy/pasting it!

    -Ken

    Okay take the bait and play along.

    Papai-hole's unprovoked jab:

    Quoted message said:

    I am surprised you can spell "chimera" without copy/pasting it!

    DA74's crass, baseless & vitriolic retort:
    Well Papai-hole, since we're on the subject of mixed plasma populations
    I have a suggestion: Douche the dna out of your mangina once in awhile.
    It's good hygiene and might help reduce your periodic whining.

  15. k.papai said:

    I am surprised you can spell "chimera" without copy/pasting it!

    -Ken


    You mean chimaera?

  16. Stu Fleming said:
    k.papai said:

    I am surprised you can spell "chimera" without copy/pasting it!

    -Ken


    You mean chimaera?

    Thanks Stu - for giving me the opportunity to enlighten the rbrfosi yet
    again. Both spellings are acceptable. Although I prefer 'chimera'
    because when you look it up at wordreference.com it gives this rather
    topical definition:

    "a grotesque product of the imagination"

    If the blood don't fit you can't acquit.
    -DA-SEVEN-FO

  17. DA74 said:
    Stu Fleming said:
    k.papai said:

    I am surprised you can spell "chimera" without copy/pasting it!

    -Ken


    You mean chimaera?

    Thanks Stu - for giving me the opportunity to enlighten the rbrfosi yet
    again. Both spellings are acceptable. Although I prefer 'chimera'
    because when you look it up at wordreference.com it gives this rather
    topical definition:

    "a grotesque product of the imagination"

    If the blood don't fit you can't acquit.
    -DA-SEVEN-FO

    Actually, dictionary.com has an even better definition:
    "A fanciful mental illusion or fabrication"

    -DA74, Tyler's Fraternal Imaginary Friend

  18. In article
    <[email hidden]>,

    DA74 said:
    Stu Fleming said:
    k.papai said:

    I am surprised you can spell "chimera" without copy/pasting it!

    -Ken


    You mean chimaera?

    Thanks Stu - for giving me the opportunity to enlighten the rbrfosi yet
    again. Both spellings are acceptable. Although I prefer 'chimera'
    because when you look it up at wordreference.com it gives this rather
    topical definition:

    "a grotesque product of the imagination"

    In _The_Book_of_Imaginary_Beings_ Jorge Luis Borges writes

    The first mention we have of the Chimera is in Book VI of
    the _Iliad_. There Homer writes that it came of divine
    stock and was a lion in its foreparts, a goat in the
    middle, and a serpent in its hindparts, and that from its
    mouth it vomitted flames, and finally was killed by the
    handsome Bellerophon, the son of Glaucus, following the
    signs of the gods. A lion's head, goat's belly, and
    serpent's tail is the most obvious image conveyed by
    Homer's words, but Hesiod's _Theogony_ describes the
    Chimera as having three heads, and this is the way it is
    depicted in the famous Arezzo bronze that dates from the
    fifth century. Springing from the middle of the animal's
    back is the head of a goat, while at one end it has a
    snake's head and ath the other a lion's.

    The Chimera reappears in the sixth book of the _Aeneid_
    ``armed with flame''; Virgil's commentator Servious
    Honoratus observed that, according to all authorities, the
    monster was native to Lycia, where there was a volcano
    bearing its name. The base of this mountain was infested
    with serpents higher up on its flanks were meadows and
    goats, and toward its desolate top, which belched out
    flames, a pride of lions had its resort. The Chimera would
    seem to be a metaphor of this strange elevation. Earlier,
    Plutarch suggested that Chimera was the name of a pirate
    captain who adorned his ship with the images of a lion, a
    goat, and a snake.

    These absurd hypotheses are proof that the Chimera was
    beginning to bore people. Easier than imagining it was to
    translate it into something else. As a beast it was to
    heterogenous; the lion, goat, and snake (in some texts,
    dragon) do not readily make up a single animal. With time
    the Chimera tended to become ``chimerical''; a celebrated
    joke of Rabelais' (``Can a chimera, swinging in the void,
    swallow second intentions?''😉 clearly marks the
    transition. The patchwork image disappeared but the word
    remained, signifying the impossible. A vain or fooish
    fancy is the definition of Chimera that we now find in
    dictionaries.

    --
    Michael Press

  19. Stu Fleming says...

    Quoted message said:

    k.papai wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I am surprised you can spell "chimera" without copy/pasting it!

    Quoted message said:

    You mean chimaera?

    I used to have a [censored]' Chamaro.

  20. In article said:

    Stu Fleming says...

    Quoted message said:

    k.papai wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I am surprised you can spell "chimera" without copy/pasting it!

    Quoted message said:

    You mean chimaera?

    I used to have a [censored]' Chamaro.

    We know:
    http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/msg/51a2efd3b49700c6?hl=en&

    --
    tanx,
    Howard

    Butter is love.

    remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

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