Pleased..

David Martin said:

"Is this bike looking for a home?" I asked, expecting to subsidise the
beer drinking of the council workmen by a couple of pints or so. "If
you want it, take it"

Where was this, the councils I know charge a lot of cash for the right
to work the dump.

Jim.

Jim Ley said:

David Martin said:

"Is this bike looking for a home?" I asked, expecting to subsidise the
beer drinking of the council workmen by a couple of pints or so. "If
you want it, take it"

Where was this, the councils I know charge a lot of cash for the right
to work the dump.

Dundee, and you cannot work the dump at all.

Ours work on strict guidelines (at least in the one I normally go to)
that if it is in the skip[1] then you can't pull it out and they are on
CCTV and it's more than their jobsworth to do so. However, they are
generally very helpful to people, assisting them with disposing of
stuff in the right skip or in many cases placing it by the side.
Usually I would expect to pay about a fiver for a bike that had been
caught before it went into the skip.

...d

[1] What's the right word for these things? This is the open container
about the size of a large shipping container that can be dragged onto
the back of a lorry.

David Martin said:

Jim Ley said:

David Martin said:

"Is this bike looking for a home?" I asked, expecting to subsidise the
beer drinking of the council workmen by a couple of pints or so. "If
you want it, take it"

Where was this, the councils I know charge a lot of cash for the right
to work the dump.

Dundee, and you cannot work the dump at all.

That's very strange, it's a very easy way for the council to help
towards their recycling targets at a profit! I wonder if there's some
sort of law in the way in Scotland?

Jim.

Jim Ley said:

David Martin said:

"Is this bike looking for a home?" I asked, expecting to subsidise the
beer drinking of the council workmen by a couple of pints or so. "If
you want it, take it"

Where was this, the councils I know charge a lot of cash for the right
to work the dump.

Jim.

My old dump had a recycle shed where people were encouraged to leave &
take things. I managed a 24in bike which only needed the rear wheel
trued, 3 26in tires and a fish poacher over one summer. Staff were very
good about making sure the bikes were carefully sorted out and left
beside the recycling shed.

However, you'd have to move to Canada to patronize it.🙂

John Kane
Kingston ON

On Mon, 03 Oct 2005 00:16:34 +0100, Jon Senior

jon_AT_restlesslemon_DOT_co_DOT_uk said:

Jim Ley said:

That's very strange, it's a very easy way for the council to help
towards their recycling targets at a profit! I wonder if there's some
sort of law in the way in Scotland?

Private scrapyards are run the same way. It is a necessary condition of
their insurance that the public are kept away from potential harm.

Er, I understood David to be saying that no-one was allowed to remove
anything dumped, not just that members of the public weren't allowed
to - that as you say doesn't happen anywhere.

Jim.

David Martin said:

Ours work on strict guidelines (at least in the one I normally go to)
that if it is in the skip[1] then you can't pull it out and they are on
CCTV and it's more than their jobsworth to do so.

[1] What's the right word for these things? This is the open container
about the size of a large shipping container that can be dragged onto
the back of a lorry.

The local authority I used to work for called them Demountable Units, in
their usual carefree and jolly fashion.

--
Brian G

David Martin said:

There must be something about my recipe for spicy apple cake that is
odd. It isn't that the cake tastes bad - it is delicious - but that any
mechanical mixing device I have used preparing it has bitten the dust.
First my hand mixer made than nasty noise of plastic gears losing all
their teeth in a whirry whirry not go roundee stylee, then my venerable
Kenwood Chef decided to support Ken Clarke's bid for the Tory
leadership. At least I presume that was why it was puffing out loads of
noxious smoke.

It's intro paragraphs like this that make URC worth looking at :-) nice one!!!

Tony B

Jim Ley said:

Er, I understood David to be saying that no-one was allowed to remove
anything dumped, not just that members of the public weren't allowed
to - that as you say doesn't happen anywhere.

ISTR that there was new legislation which was hitting charity shops as
well which meant they were liable if what the public took away turned
out to be unsafe. So either you put in place expensive checks or you
don't let them take it away.

--
Tony

"I did make a mistake once - I thought I'd made a mistake but I hadn't"
Anon

Quoted message said:

ISTR that there was new legislation which was hitting charity shops as
well which meant they were liable if what the public took away turned
out to be unsafe. So either you put in place expensive checks or you
don't let them take it away.

Wasn't it applied to items that were sold. AFAIK, all electrical items have
to be tested by an approved contractor to demonstrate that they are safe to
use. I'm not sure how other items are affected.

vernon said:

Quoted message said:

ISTR that there was new legislation which was hitting charity shops as
well which meant they were liable if what the public took away turned
out to be unsafe. So either you put in place expensive checks or you
don't let them take it away.

Wasn't it applied to items that were sold. AFAIK, all electrical items have
to be tested by an approved contractor to demonstrate that they are safe to
use. I'm not sure how other items are affected.

My missus used to volunteer in an Oxfam shop in the mid to late '80s and
they then weren't allowed to sell anything electrical for those very
reasons. I don't know it that was through legislation at the time or
just Oxfam's rules.

--
Nobby

Jon Senior said:

Jim Ley said:

Er, I understood David to be saying that no-one was allowed to remove
anything dumped, not just that members of the public weren't allowed
to - that as you say doesn't happen anywhere.

I read the "you" in his post as the public. If the council employees are
able to remove things then it would be in their best interest, although
I'd assume that sorting on arrival would be better than trying to pick
things out afterwards.

Council employees are not allowed to remove items from the 'demountable
units' but would do so given half a chance (and a fiver) if it wasn't
on CCTV. Anything that hasn't made it into these units is fair game
though.

...d

Tony B said:

David Martin said:

There must be something about my recipe for spicy apple cake that is
odd. It isn't that the cake tastes bad - it is delicious - but that
any mechanical mixing device I have used preparing it has bitten the
dust. First my hand mixer made than nasty noise of plastic gears
losing all their teeth in a whirry whirry not go roundee stylee,
then my venerable Kenwood Chef decided to support Ken Clarke's bid
for the Tory leadership. At least I presume that was why it was
puffing out loads of noxious smoke.

It's intro paragraphs like this that make URC worth looking at :-)
nice one!!!

Except for the missing paragraphs which describe the recipe for the spicy
apple cake. 🙁

--
Ambrose

Ambrose Nankivell said:

Tony B said:

David Martin said:

There must be something about my recipe for spicy apple cake that is
odd. It isn't that the cake tastes bad - it is delicious - but that
any mechanical mixing device I have used preparing it has bitten the
dust. First my hand mixer made than nasty noise of plastic gears
losing all their teeth in a whirry whirry not go roundee stylee,
then my venerable Kenwood Chef decided to support Ken Clarke's bid
for the Tory leadership. At least I presume that was why it was
puffing out loads of noxious smoke.

It's intro paragraphs like this that make URC worth looking at :-)
nice one!!!

Except for the missing paragraphs which describe the recipe for the spicy
apple cake. 🙁

6 oz butter/marge/whatever
6oz brown sugar
4oz plain flour,
4oz wholemeal flour.
generous teaspoon of ground ginger, mixed spice and cinnamon
two generous teaspoons of baking powder.
two tablesoons milk
8oz chopped diced apple (cooker or [censored] eater)
1 good eating apple peeled, cored and thinly sliced (2mm)
2oz icing/caster sugar.
2 eggs
1 orange.
2oz raisins.

Cream butter and brown sugar. Blend in orange zest. Place the raisins
to soak in the juice from the orange.
peel and chop the cooking apples and place in orange juice too.
Set the oven to 180C and grease and line with baking parchment a 9 inch
round tin (or 6 inch square)
Sieve the flours, baking powder and spices into a bowl.
beat the eggs into the creamed butter and sugar. Fold in the flour,
then strain the juice from the apple (not into the bowl, into a glass
and drink it) and fold the fruit into the mixture. Add the two
tablespoons of milk and the mixture should take on the right
consistency for a cake.
Place the mix into the cake tin and level it off. Add the slices of
apple on top for decoration and dredge with the 2oz caster sugar.

Bake 60-75 mins until a clean knife comes out clean. Lock the kitchen
door[2], remove the cake from the oven and allow to cool for ten
minutes before removing it from the tin.

Put the kettle on for a large cup of tea. Enjoy.

Buy a new kitchen door as the old one will have been demolished by now.

..d

[1] There is no first footnote
[2] If you have other family members in the house.

in message <[email hidden]>,

John_Kane (') said:

I managed a 24in bike which only needed the rear wheel
trued, 3 26in tires and a fish poacher over one summer

Yes, my bike's in need of a fish-poacher, too. Mind you, there's not much
salmon to poach, these days.

--
[email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
There's nae Gods, an there's precious few heroes
but there's plenty on the dole in th Land o th Leal;
And it's time now, tae sweep the future clear o
th lies o a past that we know wis never real.

Simon Brooke said:

in message <[email hidden]>,

John_Kane (') said:

I managed a 24in bike which only needed the rear wheel
trued, 3 26in tires and a fish poacher over one summer

Yes, my bike's in need of a fish-poacher, too. Mind you, there's not much
salmon to poach, these days.

Indeed, a complete laks of it. [1]

...d

[1] OK, it was a [censored] pun, only funny if you speak a certain language
from a country which now owns more than half of 'Scottish' salmon..

"David Martin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

[1] OK, it was a [censored] pun, only funny if you speak a certain language
from a country which now owns more than half of 'Scottish' salmon..

Indeed it was. No doubt this thread will spawn a lot of replies. I hope you
are suitably red-faced or at least pink

Cheers, helen s

In article <[email hidden]>, wafflycat

waffles*$*A**T*v21net$*££*D*O*T*co*D£$£*O*T*uk said:

Indeed it was. No doubt this thread will spawn a lot of replies. I
hope you are suitably red-faced or at least pink

Red salmon is much tastier than the pink variety.

--
T h e - e x t e n d e r ! ! ! !

Sandy Morton said:

In article <[email hidden]>, wafflycat

waffles*$*A**T*v21net$*££*D*O*T*co*D£$£*O*T*uk said:

Indeed it was. No doubt this thread will spawn a lot of replies. I
hope you are suitably red-faced or at least pink

Red salmon is much tastier than the pink variety.

Did you know that it is very easy to genetically engineer salmon? If
you heat the fertilised eggs to the right temperature for the right
length of time you get chromosomal trisomy, leading to the salmon
producing more growth hormone than they should and growing at twice the
rate..

Just one more bit of trivia.. That is the pacific salmon though which
isn't very closely related to the atlantic one..

And for the pop quiz - which coulntry produces more Atlantic salmon
than any other?

...d

In article <[email hidden]>,

David Martin said:

Just one more bit of trivia.. That is the pacific salmon though
which isn't very closely related to the atlantic one..

Quoted message said:

And for the pop quiz - which coulntry produces more Atlantic salmon
than any other?

I don't know where the bike comes into this but I have fished for and
caught Pacific salmon near Vancouver, Atlantic salmon in a place
which I should forget and Tay salmon legally.

I remember - I wasn't on a bike at 2 of the 3.

--
A T (Sandy) Morton
on the Bicycle Island
In the Global Village
http://www.millport.net