bought a pole

Geoff Berrow said:

It's a Leki, made out of titanium and weighs practically nothing.

So what's the claimed advantage of titanium over carbon fibre when used
in poles?

Jim Ford

On 24/9/05 15:50, in article [email hidden],

Geoff Berrow said:

I bought a pole today. Steve's organised a trip to the Glyders next
Saturday and I like to use poles on hills.

It's a Leki, made out of titanium and weighs practically nothing.

I'm beginning to see what PW likes about this stuff. :-)
--

Good stuff. You knees will approve. Now, if you used two ...

.... Seriously, two make a big difference.

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On Sat, 24 Sep 2005 15:50:31 +0100, Geoff Berrow <[email hidden]>
wrote:

| I bought a pole today. Steve's organised a trip to the Glyders next
| Saturday and I like to use poles on hills.
|
| It's a Leki, made out of titanium and weighs practically nothing.

How much is practically nothing?
I want to compare it with my wooden poles, and Junes Lidl poles which are
about 12 oz / 350g each, and also *feel* like practically nothing.

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I noticed that Message-ID:
<BF5C323C.45EA9%andy.howellNOSPAM@ecotrendDOTorgDOTuk> from Andy Howell
contained the following:

Quoted message said:

Good stuff. You knees will approve. Now, if you used two ...

... Seriously, two make a big difference.

Haven't got enough hills around here to justify it at the moment. :-(

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I noticed that Message-ID: <[email hidden]>
from Dave Fawthrop contained the following:

Quoted message said:

| It's a Leki, made out of titanium and weighs practically nothing.

How much is practically nothing?
I want to compare it with my wooden poles, and Junes Lidl poles which are
about 12 oz / 350g each, and also *feel* like practically nothing.

Dunno, don't own any kitchen scales. It just felt a lot lighter than
anything else on the rack. And I work, I can never get to Lidl in time
to get a pole when they are on offer
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Geoff Berrow said:

I bought a pole today. Steve's organised a trip to the Glyders next
Saturday and I like to use poles on hills.

It's a Leki, made out of titanium and weighs practically nothing.

Does it have shock absorbers?

On Sat, 24 Sep 2005 15:50:31 +0100
in <news:[email hidden]>
Geoff Berrow <[email hidden]> wrote :

Quoted message said:

I bought a pole today. Steve's organised a trip to the Glyders next
Saturday and I like to use poles on hills.

It's a Leki, made out of titanium and weighs practically nothing.

I'm beginning to see what PW likes about this stuff. :-)

Have you ever compared the weight of PW's purse v.s. your wallet?

--
The man was evacuated uphill to the dam and airlifted to hospital. Let
me just say that uphill is bad. Very bad. It hurts.
[Langdale & Ambleside MRT callout report]

Jim Ford said:

So what's the claimed advantage of titanium over carbon fibre when used
in poles?

The claimed advantage is that they don't break as easily - they'll
bend but not snap.
I remain to be convinced that this is enough to warrant the price tag
though.
BTW I'm told that they're not actually titanium but light weight
aluminium - anyone know if this is true?
S.

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Dave Fawthrop said:

How much is practically nothing?
I want to compare it with my wooden poles, and Junes Lidl poles which are
about 12 oz / 350g each, and also *feel* like practically nothing.

My Alpkit poles are about 200g each.

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I have a pair of Leki poles, before purchasing them I was very
concerned that it may be a waste of money adn that I'd see no great
advantage. Little did I know...

I think they are fabulous, for the weight, even if I don't use them I
don't notice the difference on my rucksack, and they've helped with
knee and back problems.

I'd buy another if I were you, hills or no hills!

I have a pair of Leki poles, before purchasing them I was very
concerned that it may be a waste of money adn that I'd see no great
advantage. Little did I know...

I think they are fabulous, for the weight, even if I don't use them I
don't notice the difference on my rucksack, and they've helped with
knee and back problems.

I'd buy another if I were you, hills or no hills!

I have a pair of Leki poles, before purchasing them I was very
concerned that it may be a waste of money adn that I'd see no great
advantage. Little did I know...

I think they are fabulous, for the weight, even if I don't use them I
don't notice the difference on my rucksack, and they've helped with
knee and back problems.

I'd buy another if I were you, hills or no hills!

On Sat, 24 Sep 2005 15:50:31 +0100
in <news:[email hidden]>
Geoff Berrow <[email hidden]> wrote :

Quoted message said:

I bought a pole today. Steve's organised a trip to the Glyders next
Saturday and I like to use poles on hills.

It's a Leki, made out of titanium and weighs practically nothing.

I'm beginning to see what PW likes about this stuff. :-)

Have you ever compared the weight of PW's purse v.s. your wallet?

--
The man was evacuated uphill to the dam and airlifted to hospital. Let
me just say that uphill is bad. Very bad. It hurts.
[Langdale & Ambleside MRT callout report]

On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 19:56:40 +0100, Adrian Godwin
<[email hidden]> wrote:

| So the total weight is only 30% less, but the part of the
| pole that swings as you walk is much lighter. This makes the whole
| thing feel more like half the weight.

My poles swing at the natural pendulum frequency, which happens to be one
swing to each two steps.

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Dave Fawthrop <dave hyphenologist co uk>
The London suicide bombers killed innocent commuters.
Animal rights terrorists and activists kill innocent patients.

Bootlaces <[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

On Sat, 24 Sep 2005 15:50:31 +0100
in <news:[email hidden]>
Geoff Berrow <[email hidden]> wrote :

Quoted message said:

I bought a pole today. Steve's organised a trip to the Glyders next
Saturday and I like to use poles on hills.

It's a Leki, made out of titanium and weighs practically nothing.

I'm beginning to see what PW likes about this stuff. :-)

Have you ever compared the weight of PW's purse v.s. your wallet?

ROTFL!
--
Gordon Harris

Simon Caldwell said:

The claimed advantage is that they don't break as easily - they'll
bend but not snap.

You're right about the "as easily", but having seen my carbon track
poles bend quite significantly when out skiing with them I know they do
bend!

Problem with carbon fibre is it's far more prone to stress fracturing,
so if you put a bad scratch in it then that will serve as a stress focus
and subsequently a break point. So while carbon ski poles are very
popular with nordic skiers who don't have sharp metal edges on their
skis, it's not nearly so common in downhill setups with steel edged skis.

Using poles where I walk, through rocky mountains with boulder fields, I
wouldn't want carbon poles. But there's plenty of places where they'd
be no real problem at all.

Quoted message said:

I remain to be convinced that this is enough to warrant the price tag
though.

For XC skiing where you want to do more than pootle I think the carbon
poles are worth it, but I wouldn't personally bother with carbon or
titanium otherwise. My aluminium poles aren't enough of a drag that I
feel any need to improve them.

Pete.
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Bertie Wiggins said:

Does it have shock absorbers?

Does he care?

I would sooner have a pole without shock absorbers, I don't find them of
any benefit (and yes, I have tested them quite thoroughly) if you bother
to work a bit on technique and they just add a bit of weight, cost and
unnecessary complexity while providing a less stable platform.

Pete.
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Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
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Clinch contained the following:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Does it have shock absorbers?

Does he care?

Not really. I've used both and can't see much difference

I thought they did but they seem pretty rigid at the moment. Of course
you can turn it off. I'll have to have a play.

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Peter Clinch said:

Quoted message said:

Does it have shock absorbers?

Does he care?

I have no way of knowing. I simply asked so that I could follow up
with what he thought of them and if they added significantly to the
weight. He says the poles are very light so I assume they don't have
shock absorbers.