Question Regarding Improved Times

On 22 Sep 2005 05:48:13 -0700, "Tom Enright" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Does shaving your legs (men) really improve your times
or scores

Absolutely! I shaved them and went from 11mpm to 5 minutes per mile.
Then I shaved my nuts, and took off another 30 seconds.
TBR

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and
more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day
the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the
White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
"Anyone with degrees from Yale and Harvard is presumed to be intelligent,
but George W. Bush has managed to overcome that presumption."

Shaving your legs, or body for that matter, should not appreciably improve
your times. However, there is a psychological effect when shaved. Your
legs, arms, chest, etc are now in direct contact with the water and it feels
very much different than when you have not shaved. This gives one the
feeling you are going faster and therefore may psychologically help you push
a little harder, thereby improving your times. It also produces slightly
less drag in the water and may physically make you a tad bit faster but if
you are not a highly competitive swimmer, chances are you will not see any
difference, although you will feel it (Especially when you go to sleep at
night and the feeling of the sheets on your legs. Takes a night or two to
get used to). Some swimmers will also put a light coating of baby oil on
them to better repel the water. However, there is a limit to the amount of
lotion or oil you can put on, and if it's too much, you may be DQ'd.

"Tom Enright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Does shaving your legs (men) really improve your times
or scores or is this simply a fad or does it make one "a
member of the club" so to speak?

I see men at the gym, usually runners or bodybuilders, who
have shaved their bodies completely. Is their some kind of
message being sent that I don't see?

Sometimes I am frightened and confused.

-Thomas O'Reilly

"Tom Enright" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Quoted message said:

Does shaving your legs (men) really improve your times
or scores or is this simply a fad or does it make one "a
member of the club" so to speak?

For cyclists, shaving one's legs is a matter of first aid. Its a
whole lot easier to clean up a road rash wound with no leg hair to deal
with.

dave

Tom Enright said:

Does shaving your legs (men) really improve your times
or scores or is this simply a fad or does it make one "a
member of the club" so to speak?

I see men at the gym, usually runners or bodybuilders, who
have shaved their bodies completely. Is their some kind of
message being sent that I don't see?

Sometimes I am frightened and confused.

-Thomas O'Reilly

Up to about age 40 I had a full head of hair. Now that I'm older and
bald I run like a wild man.

Quoted message said:

Up to about age 40 I had a full head of hair. Now that I'm older and
bald I run like a wild man.

LOL!
TBR

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and
more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day
the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the
White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
"Anyone with degrees from Yale and Harvard is presumed to be intelligent,
but George W. Bush has managed to overcome that presumption."

In article <[email hidden]>,

Tom Enright said:

Does shaving your legs (men) really improve your times
or scores or is this simply a fad or does it make one "a
member of the club" so to speak?

I see men at the gym, usually runners or bodybuilders, who
have shaved their bodies completely. Is their some kind of
message being sent that I don't see?

Sometimes I am frightened and confused.

You walk into the room with your pencil in your hand
You see somebody naked and you say 'Who is that man?'
You try so hard but you don't understand
just what you will say when you get home
because something is happening here but you don't know what it is
do you, Mr. Jones?
You raise up your head and you ask 'Is this where it is?'
and somebody points to you and says 'It's his'
and you say 'what's mine?' and somebody else says 'well what is?'
and you say 'Oh my god am I here all alone?'
but something is happening and you don't know what it is
do you, Mr. Jones?
You hand in your ticket and you go watch the geek
who immediatly walks up to you when he hears you speak
and says 'How does it feel to be such a freak?'
and you say 'impossible' as he hands you a bone
and something is happening here but you don't know what it is
do you, Mr. Jones?
You have many contacts among the lumberjacks
to get you facts when someone attacks your imagination
but nobody has any respect, anyway they already expect
you to all give a check to tax-deductible charity organizations
Ah you've been with the professors and they've all liked your looks
With great lawyers you have discussed lepers and crooks
You've been through all of F. Scott Fitzgerald's books
You're very well read, it's well known
But something is happening here and you don't know what it is
do you, Mr. Jones?
Well the sword-swallower he comes up to you and then he kneels
He crosses himself and then he clicks his high heels
and without further notice he asks you how it feels
and he says 'Here is your throat back, thanks for the loan'
And you know something is happening but you don't know what it is
do you, Mr. Jones?
Now you see this one-eyed midget shouting the word 'now'
and you say 'for what reason?' and he says 'how'
And you say 'what does this mean?' and he screams back 'You're a cow'
'Give me some milk or else go home'
And you know something's happening but you don't know what it is
do you, Mr. Jones?
Well you walk into the room like a camel and then you frown
You put your eyes in your pocket and your nose on the ground
There ought to be a law against you coming around
You should be made to wear earphones
Cause something is happening and you don't know what it is
do you, Mr. Jones?
Whoooaaaooooh

Ballad of a Thin Man
Bob Dylan

shaving the cornhole can cut 3 seconds off your 5K time. doesn't seem
like much, but every second counts.

If you want me to go on arguing, you'll have to pay for another
five minutes, "Marc" <[email hidden]>!

Quoted message said:

Shaving your legs, or body for that matter, should not
appreciably improve your times. However, there is a
psychological effect when shaved. Your legs, arms, chest, etc
are now in direct contact with the water and it feels very much
different than when you have not shaved. This gives one the
feeling you are going faster and therefore may psychologically
help you push a little harder, thereby improving your times. It
also produces slightly less drag in the water and may physically
make you a tad bit faster but if you are not a highly
competitive swimmer, chances are you will not see any
difference, although you will feel it (Especially when you go to
sleep at night and the feeling of the sheets on your legs.
Takes a night or two to get used to). Some swimmers will also
put a light coating of baby oil on them to better repel the
water. However, there is a limit to the amount of lotion or oil
you can put on, and if it's too much, you may be DQ'd.

Let me see if I've got this straight. First I shave off all my body
hair, then I bust out the baby oil. Is that about right?

--
Cheers,
--Jeff
"You know Foghorn Leghorn wouldn't pee in no jar!"
--Mojo Nixon

On 22 Sep 2005 14:52:03 -0500, OrangeDood <no_this_isnt@my_email.com>

Quoted message said:

then I bust out the baby oil.

DF and Rebecchi prefer scented oils.
TBR

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and
more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day
the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the
White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
"Anyone with degrees from Yale and Harvard is presumed to be intelligent,
but George W. Bush has managed to overcome that presumption."

Swimming: Yes

Bodybuilding: the aesthetics are important in competition.

Running: No

Other sports: more of a health/safety/comfort issue. I shaved the lower
part of each leg in HS since I needed to get ankles taped. Having the hair
gone made life more pleasant.

As a cyclist/triathlete I shaved because, well, road rash is easier to clean
and massages felt better.

"Tom Enright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Does shaving your legs (men) really improve your times
or scores or is this simply a fad or does it make one "a
member of the club" so to speak?

I see men at the gym, usually runners or bodybuilders, who
have shaved their bodies completely. Is their some kind of
message being sent that I don't see?

Sometimes I am frightened and confused.

-Thomas O'Reilly

I think it is the THREAT of that that improves one's time!
"Dred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

shaving the cornhole can cut 3 seconds off your 5K time. doesn't seem
like much, but every second counts.

"Tom Enright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Does shaving your legs (men) really improve your times
or scores or is this simply a fad or does it make one "a
member of the club" so to speak?

None of the semi-elite or elite runners I know do this.

You cross-posted to a swimming group, and yes, body hair creates
significant drag. In that sport, it can make a measureable difference.
Cycling it may also, but I'm not sure.

Dave

Sam said:

Swimming: Yes

Bodybuilding: the aesthetics are important in competition.

Running: No

Other sports: more of a health/safety/comfort issue. I shaved the
lower part of each leg in HS since I needed to get ankles taped. Having
the hair gone made life more pleasant.

As a cyclist/triathlete I shaved because, well, road rash is easier
to clean and massages felt better.

That's pretty gay. I get my ankles and wrists and forearms and sometimes my
elbows taped when I play football. Feel free to shoot me if I decide to
shave my legs. If you can't take pulling out a few thousand hairs, play
soccer.

--
Jefferson N. Glapski
http://www.freealberta.com

"OrangeDood" <no_this_isnt@my_email.com> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

If you want me to go on arguing, you'll have to pay for another
five minutes, "Marc" <[email hidden]>!

Quoted message said:

Shaving your legs, or body for that matter, should not
appreciably improve your times. However, there is a
psychological effect when shaved. Your legs, arms, chest, etc
are now in direct contact with the water and it feels very much
different than when you have not shaved. This gives one the
feeling you are going faster and therefore may psychologically
help you push a little harder, thereby improving your times. It
also produces slightly less drag in the water and may physically
make you a tad bit faster but if you are not a highly
competitive swimmer, chances are you will not see any
difference, although you will feel it (Especially when you go to
sleep at night and the feeling of the sheets on your legs.
Takes a night or two to get used to). Some swimmers will also
put a light coating of baby oil on them to better repel the
water. However, there is a limit to the amount of lotion or oil
you can put on, and if it's too much, you may be DQ'd.

Let me see if I've got this straight. First I shave off all my body
hair, then I bust out the baby oil. Is that about right?

--
Cheers,
--Jeff

KY Warming gel would be a better choice....At least that's what a pico commi
left coast [censored] told me once.

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MoParMaN said:

KY Warming gel would be a better choice....At least that's what a pico commi
left coast [censored] told me once.

As he rammed it home up your wazoo?

You should not be looking at other men naked. That is just creepy.

Body builders shave to show off their muscle definition. The "runners"
who shaved were hitting on you. You know what kind of message they are
sending you.

Frightened and confused uh. Maybe you can ask those shaved men to be
gentle with you. Remember to relax.