rec.sport.unicycling · Public discussion

KH/pro file hub conversion

Started by musketman · · Last activity · 6 posts · 287 views

This thread is locked and is currently read-only.

Thread navigation

Jump through the discussion

Go to the original post, the replies on this page, or the latest preserved contribution.

Thread details

What we know about this thread

Original section
rec.sport.unicycling
Published
14 September 2005
Last activity
15 September 2005
Original author
musketman
Posts
6
Discussion status
Public discussion
Total views
287
Views / 30 days
0

The navigation and discussion metadata provide context. Posts remain in their original chronological order.

Showing posts 1–6 of 6
Posts remain in their original chronological order.

Text size
  1. Im planning on getting my KH a pro file hub. I just dont know all the
    parts i need to do it. So correct me if im wrong.

    1. I need the shims first of all to fit the profile hub bearings in.

    2. The profile replacement screws to put the cranks on.

    and should the bearings come with the hub? or do i need to buy them
    seperate?

    also if anyone knows, what does the hub come with? besides the cranks
    since im getin both at once.

    Is this all i need? or? ? ?

    --
    musketman
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    musketman's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/9214
    View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/43313

  2. It will come with the bearings.

    --
    loosejello - Amanda gives me sunburn
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    loosejello's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/8295
    View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/43313

  3. You'll need the 'UDC bearing adapters'
    (http://www.unicycle.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=735). You'll get the
    pick the bearing size you get with the Profile hub if you order from
    UDC. You can choose either a 40mm OD bearing or 1-5/8 inch OD bearing.
    Get the bearing adapter to fit whichever bearing size you decide on.

    The Profile hub comes with the flush mount Profile [censored]' Bolts.

    I ditch the cone spacers and just go with extra of the washer shaped
    spacers. Ask for extras of the washer shaped spindle spacers to take
    the place of the cone spacers. Extra spindle spacer washers are cheap
    and more convenient and cleaner looking than the cone spacers.

    The hub comes with the hub body and axle, two bearings, two cone
    spacers, a handful of spindle spacer washers, the [censored]' Bolts, and
    the Profile crank removal tool. The Profile crank removal tool is
    mostly useless and potentially damaging to the hub. Use the 'Evercraft
    bearing puller' (http://tinyurl.com/3645) to remove the cranks
    instead.

    And buy some anti-seize so you can grease up the splines before putting
    the cranks on. And anti-seize the threads of the [censored]' Bolts too.

    The pictures below of the parts came from 'Dans Comp'
    (http://www.danscomp.com/).

    +----------------------------------------------------------------+
    | Attachment filename: profileequipment.jpg |
    |Download attachment: http://www.unicyclist.com/attachment/362036|
    +----------------------------------------------------------------+

    --
    john_childs - Guinness Mojo

    john_childs (att) hotmail (dott) com
    Gallery: '' (http://gallery.unicyclist.com/john_childs)
    ' Unicycling Bookmark List' (http://backcountry.unicyclist.com/) ::
    'World Clock' (http://tinyurl.com/a99y3) >>>'Click Me'
    (http://tinyurl.com/7lvbu)<<<
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    john_childs's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/449
    View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/43313

  4. You might want to consider a KH setup. Have you read this?:

    Second, the KH/Onza hub:
    Profile hubs have an effective, simple design that works OK, and they
    are pioneers in that they were the first mainstream manufacturer to make
    good splined unicycle hubs. But....they can be improved in several ways:

    1) Profile splines are strong but prone to creaking due to manufacturing
    variations and wear and tear. The KH/Onza axle has a tapered section on
    each end, with a split washer that expands to compress the crank against
    the axle. Like all systems this requires maintenance (greasing) of the
    splines, but is an effective solution.
    2) As Roger said, flange design makes a big difference for rim strength.
    The KH/Onza hub has a much better shape than any other uni hub for rim
    stiffness and strength, and for minimizing stress on the spokes.
    High-grade (7000 series) aluminum is much, much better for supporting
    spokes than steel flanges, such as those on D.M. or Koxx hubs. That is
    the big disadvantage of welding steel flanges to a steel hub.
    3) The hub-axle connection KH/Onza is totally new for unicycle hubs and
    by far the best available. Profiles (and also the 2004 KH hub), used a
    keyway slot, which is weaker and prone to loosening and manufacturer
    defects. Each 7000 series Aluminum flange on the KH/Onza is machined
    separately and attached to the axle with the same splines as the cranks.
    This is way stronger and much lighter because it removes material from
    the centre of the hub (the centre of the KH/Onza hub is hollow except
    for the axle).

    Third, the cranks:
    There will always be debates forever on the advantages/disadvantages of
    Aluminum versus Cromoly cranks. Aluminum is a lighter metal but the
    cranks aren't necessarily lighter because the cranks are typically solid
    (except for hollowtech bike cranks), whereas Cromoly cranks are hollow
    (KH/Onza and Koxx crank arms are the same weight).

    Aluminum is stiff but may be prone to snapping, whereas CrMo typically
    bends before it breaks- a good safety factor. CrMo may also be more
    durable to extended hard impacts, like we have on unicycles. Koxx cranks
    are smooth on the outside but also have no Q-factor (outwards flare), so
    they are actually more prone to hitting your ankle bone than the 2005
    KH/Onza cranks. The shortest Profiles are 145mm. In my opinion this is
    too long for trials. 140mm is better for rolling hops, you are less
    likely to hit your pedals on the ground, and they are less likely to
    throw off your balance when pedalling along narrow beams.

    Hopefully this info answers some of the questions out there.

    Cheers,

    Kris

    --
    pdc - Unicycling Lord of Lookout Mountain

    "What doesn't kill you strengthens you, what kills you strengthens your
    mother"

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    pdc's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/8160
    View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/43313

  5. I read Kris's comments and soon after I started thinking about selling
    my profile wheelset and moving to the KH wheelset for trials, but I
    cooled my jets when I found out cranksets are more or less the same
    weight. But the 140mm cranks still interest me.

    My profile wheelset was in good shape too, selling it used would have
    covered a new kh wheelset, easily.

    --
    The Munieer - One for the...Off Road

    Rod Wylie - For Contact - DO NOT PM
    Email me at rswylie(at)aol(dot)com

    'MountainUnicyclingLA.com' (http://www.mountainunicycling.us)
    'Greater Los Angeles Area Trails - Images'
    (http://gallery.unicyclist.com/Greater-Los-Angeles-Trails)
    'Greater Los Angeles Area Trails - Descriptions'
    (http://tinyurl.com/6h8zn)

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    The Munieer's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/736
    View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/43313

  6. The Munieer said:

    *My profile wheelset was in good shape too, selling it used would have
    covered a new kh wheelset, easily. *

    Perhaps not as well as you thought, due to the fact that the lifetime
    warranty only applies to you (apparently), and not to anyone else that
    you sell it to...

    --
    ur - Unicycling Revolution

    Unicycling Revolution - JOIN THE REVOLUTION TODAY!
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    ur's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/4199
    View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/43313

Active in the last 60 minutes

Active in this thread

0 users · 0 guests ·0 bots ·0 total

No signed-in users are active right now.

No known search crawlers active right now.