water in frame

I mean to say "I removed the bottom bracket and re-greased it......." not regressed

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I have a Seven Axiom Ti frame with an Easton EC70 Carbon Seatpost. It seems that the seatpost has
a flat spot on it and while riding during rain the water runs down the seatpost and into the
frame. I unfortunately got caught during a storm and when I drained the water there was probably 1
pound of water in the frame. I removed the bottom bracket and regressed

it

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but again got caught during a storm and again got water in the frame.

Has

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anyone else had this problem and what is the solution (aside from not

riding

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in the rain) and replacing the seatpost

thanks

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I have a Seven Axiom Ti frame with an Easton EC70 Carbon Seatpost. It seems that the seatpost has
a flat spot on it and while riding during rain the water runs down the seatpost and into the
frame. I unfortunately got caught during a storm and when I drained the water there was probably 1
pound of water in the frame. I removed the bottom bracket and regressed

it

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but again got caught during a storm and again got water in the frame.

Has

Quoted message said:

anyone else had this problem and what is the solution (aside from not

riding

Quoted message said:

in the rain) and replacing the seatpost

thanks

Does the flat spot on the post leave a large enough hole that a good shot of grease can't plug it
up? Like, take out the post, put too much PolyLube on it, the put it back in. Now, wipe the excess
from around the collar. That may do it, or it might just make a greasy mess.

I've heard of people drilling small holes in the bb shell to help drainage, but I wouldn't want to
experiment with swiss-cheesing a nice frame like yours.

Chris

I regularly ride in the muddy stuff, while my bike lives inside and therefore requires washing down
- up to 4 or 5 times a week and this was a constant problem... until: I cut a section of old tube,
stretched it over the seatpost clamp and taped it top and bottom. I like to think of it as a condom
for my bike - it allows it to get down and dirty without 'catching' anything....

nick

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re-greased it......." not regressed

"Paul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I have a Seven Axiom Ti frame with an Easton EC70 Carbon Seatpost. It seems that the seatpost has
a flat spot on it and while riding during rain the water runs down the seatpost and into the
frame. I unfortunately got caught during a storm and when I drained the water there was probably 1
pound of water in the frame. I removed the bottom bracket and regressed

it

Quoted message said:

but again got caught during a storm and again got water in the frame.

Has

Quoted message said:

anyone else had this problem and what is the solution (aside from not

riding

Quoted message said:

in the rain) and replacing the seatpost

thanks

easton specifically warn *against* greasing their carbon posts.

Chris said:

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Quoted message said:

I have a Seven Axiom Ti frame with an Easton EC70 Carbon Seatpost. It seems that the seatpost has
a flat spot on it and while riding during rain the water runs down the seatpost and into the
frame. I unfortunately got caught during a storm and when I drained the water there was probably 1
pound of water in the frame. I removed the bottom bracket and regressed

it

Quoted message said:

but again got caught during a storm and again got water in the frame.

Has

Quoted message said:

anyone else had this problem and what is the solution (aside from not

riding

Quoted message said:

in the rain) and replacing the seatpost

thanks

Does the flat spot on the post leave a large enough hole that a good shot of grease can't plug it
up? Like, take out the post, put too much PolyLube on it, the put it back in. Now, wipe the excess
from around the collar. That may do it, or it might just make a greasy mess.

I've heard of people drilling small holes in the bb shell to help drainage, but I wouldn't want to
experiment with swiss-cheesing a nice frame like yours.

Chris

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I have a Seven Axiom Ti frame with an Easton EC70 Carbon Seatpost. It seems that the seatpost has
a flat spot on it and while riding during rain the water runs down the seatpost and into the
frame. I unfortunately got caught during a storm and when I drained the water there was probably 1
pound of water in the frame. I removed the bottom bracket and regressed it but again got caught
during a storm and again got water in the frame. Has anyone else had this problem and what is the
solution (aside from not riding in the rain) and replacing the seatpost

Poor design. Any frame should have a hole in the bottom of the BB shell to drain water that enters.
Lack of the drain sounds like it should be fixed under warranty.

- rick

Paul said:

I have a Seven Axiom Ti frame with an Easton EC70 Carbon Seatpost. It seems that the seatpost has
a flat spot on it and while riding during rain the water runs down the seatpost and into the
frame. anyone else had this problem and what is the solution (aside from not

My ideas:

-- Caulk the spot where the seatpost enters the frame or, seal it with something else; maybe mold a
filler from fiberglass [available as an auto body repair kit] or form caulk or any other material

-- Drill drain holes. I don't like this idea.

-- Duct tape from seatpost to seat tube

-- Fabricate some sort of cover, probably held on by rubber bands, in the seatpost -> seat tube
spot

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thanks

--
Rick Onanian

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I've heard of people drilling small holes in the bb shell to help

drainage,

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but I wouldn't want to experiment with swiss-cheesing a nice frame like yours.

If his "nice frame" can't handle a 1/4 inch hole in the bottom bracket then maybe he'll have more
important problems before too long.

People have been putting cutouts in bicycle bb shells for decades - maybe the boutique products that
today's fad followers buy aren't strong enought for this.

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easton specifically warn *against* greasing their carbon posts.

You're right...I totally missed that part of his post. I should pay more attention.

Chris

jt said:

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I've heard of people drilling small holes in the bb shell to help

drainage,

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but I wouldn't want to experiment with swiss-cheesing a nice frame like yours.

If his "nice frame" can't handle a 1/4 inch hole in the bottom bracket then maybe he'll have more
important problems before too long.

People have been putting cutouts in bicycle bb shells for decades - maybe the boutique products
that today's fad followers buy aren't strong enought for this.

Drilling a 6/4 Titanium BB shell is not as easy as all that ...

and you arrive at the age old argument... holes let water out vs holes let water and grit in..

nick had the best solution early in the thread.

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I regularly ride in the muddy stuff, while my bike lives inside and therefore requires washing
down - up to 4 or 5 times a week and this was a constant problem... until: I cut a section of old
tube, stretched it over the seatpost clamp and

taped

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it top and bottom. I like to think of it as a condom for my bike - it allows it to get down

and

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dirty without 'catching' anything....

I do this with my Topeak frame fit pum, as I run it along my left seatstay with the handle down,
except that I don't tape it. It's a nice stretch fit and works to keep my pump handle from filling
with water and rusting the spring.

As for water in the seat tube, etc., just remove the saddle/post after a rainy ride, and drain it,
let it dry.

--
Robin Hubert <[email hidden]

In article <[email hidden]>, "Paul" <yetixtr_NOSPAM

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I have a Seven Axiom Ti frame with an Easton EC70 Carbon Seatpost. It seems that the seatpost has a
flat spot on it and while riding during rain the water runs down the seatpost and into the frame. I
unfortunately got caught during a storm and when I drained the water there was probably 1 pound of
water in the frame.

Not likely; that would be a pint of water, certainly more than the top tube would hold.

I removed the bottom bracket and regressed it

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but again got caught during a storm and again got water in the frame. Has anyone else had this
problem and what is the solution (aside from not riding in the rain)

Grease the seatpost.

David L. Johnson Department of Mathematics Lehigh University

Pull BB then drill a hole in the frames BB shell at the bottom.

Fire up MTB 03

the seatpost is built that way eastonbike.compost.ec70.htmlOpen ↗

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It seems that the seatpost has a flat spot on it

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Sounds to me like your seatpost should be replaced under warranty. I believe that seatposts are
supposed to be round in most cases, including yours.

Drilling a hole in the bb shell, as suggested by others, is both a drain and an ENTRY point for
liquids, etc.., as well as being fairly difficult with a 6/4 bb shell.

App

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-- Drill drain holes. I don't like this idea.

Talk to a good mechanic or framebuilder. They'll tell you that a BB shell should have a drain hole.
Not having one is a flaw. Adding one is fixing a flaw.

- rick

I have a Yeti Arc, Guru Racelite, and Seven Axiom Ti. I have riding buddies who have Trek 5900,
Litespeed ghisallo and Litespeed Vortex. . I wouldn't consider any of these bikes CHEAP yet none has
a BB drain. Would you consider these frame builders lousy? There must be a reason these companies
aren't putting a BB drain in. Considering that some of these frames are $4000 Cdn I hardly doubt
that they are doing it to save money.

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-- Drill drain holes. I don't like this idea.

Talk to a good mechanic or framebuilder. They'll tell you that a BB shell should have a drain
hole. Not having one is a flaw. Adding one is fixing a flaw.

- rick

Have you tried a rubber "O" ring around the seatpost where it enters the frame?

Kill two two birds with one stone. It would seal it and mark your post height.

You could also try bathtub calk or silicone sealant.

May you have the wind at your back. And a really low gear for the hills! Chris

Chris'Z Corner "The Website for the Common Bicyclist": geocities.comczcornerOpen ↗

just so noone else suggests this non-option.

jb

Paul said:

I have a Seven Axiom Ti frame with an Easton EC70 Carbon Seatpost. It seems that the seatpost has
a flat spot on it and while riding during rain the water runs down the seatpost and into the
frame. I unfortunately got caught during a storm and when I drained the water there was probably 1
pound of water in the frame. I removed the bottom bracket and regressed it but again got caught
during a storm and again got water in the frame. Has anyone else had this problem and what is the
solution (aside from not riding in the rain) and replacing the seatpost

thanks

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just so noone else suggests this non-option.

Says who?

Bill "high, noone?" S.

easton, the seat post's manufacturer!

eastonbike.comseatpost EN.pdfOpen ↗

some greases can attack the resin over time.

jb

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just so noone else suggests this non-option.

Says who?

Bill "high, noone?" S.