Potent Brewskies

Dogfish Head brews a "120 Minute IPA" which is 21% ABV. It's actually
unpleasant. Tastes nothing like beer, a lot like cognac.

Their 60 and 90 Minute IPAs are a hophead's dream though.

ScottR

Dog3 said:

"I'm pretty sure the Americans have something up their sleeve."

Up it, down it, been there, done that. Yep, Samuel Adams has already
brewed a 25% abv beer, Utopias Limited Edition. I don't know if you
can get it anymore. I saw a bottle at BevMo about a year ago.
Probably on ebay for collector prices (>$100).

http://www.sptimes.com/2003/06/18/Taste/For_beer_lovers__utop.shtml

nb

I'm reminded of an old bar-bet;
It's for guys with nothing beter to do,
who spend lots of time sitting around bar-rooms.

Using a shot glass,
Drink 60 (?) beers in 60 minutes.

ie one shot-glass of beer every minute. ( not sooner, not later )

Then, walk across the room if you can.

<rj>

RJ said:

I'm reminded of an old bar-bet;
It's for guys with nothing beter to do,
who spend lots of time sitting around bar-rooms.

Using a shot glass,
Drink 60 (?) beers in 60 minutes.

ie one shot-glass of beer every minute. ( not sooner, not later )

Then, walk across the room if you can.

<rj>

No law-abiding bar (okay, that sounds funny) would allow this any more. We
had a place in Memphis (East End Grill) have their liquor license yanked
after allowing a group of college kids get into a drinking contest. Not
only did they allow it, witnesses said the employees encouraged it. And
they weren't drinking beer. I can't remember the exact drink but it was one
of those fru-fru red things with about 4 liquors in it. Not only were the
employees aware the kids were loaded and kept on serving them, one of the
boys collapsed and died of severe alcohol poisoning.

I enjoy my beer and wine. But drinking contests and [censored] like this are just
stupid. (And I don't drink and drive.) I have no use for a beer that is
25% alcohol. Keep your PGA and other stuff with no purpose other than to
get you drunk FAST. Where's the fun in that, really? It's like the hot
sauce thread - it isn't sauce, it's just hot. Eat some raw Thai chillies if
you want to burn your mouth off. I'll say no thanks 🙂

Jill

jmcquown said:

RJ said:

I'm reminded of an old bar-bet;
It's for guys with nothing beter to do,
who spend lots of time sitting around bar-rooms.

Using a shot glass,
Drink 60 (?) beers in 60 minutes.

ie one shot-glass of beer every minute. ( not sooner, not later )

Then, walk across the room if you can.

<rj>

No law-abiding bar (okay, that sounds funny) would allow this any more. We
had a place in Memphis (East End Grill) have their liquor license yanked
after allowing a group of college kids get into a drinking contest. Not
only did they allow it, witnesses said the employees encouraged it. And
they weren't drinking beer. I can't remember the exact drink but it was one
of those fru-fru red things with about 4 liquors in it. Not only were the
employees aware the kids were loaded and kept on serving them, one of the
boys collapsed and died of severe alcohol poisoning.

I enjoy my beer and wine. But drinking contests and [censored] like this are just
stupid. (And I don't drink and drive.) I have no use for a beer that is
25% alcohol. Keep your PGA and other stuff with no purpose other than to
get you drunk FAST. Where's the fun in that, really? It's like the hot
sauce thread - it isn't sauce, it's just hot. Eat some raw Thai chillies if
you want to burn your mouth off. I'll say no thanks 🙂

Jill

Now, how could you possibly get hurt drinking
a shot-glass full of beer ?
Doesn't really sound extreme.

BTW; College kids use beer-bongs or funnels.
<rj>

On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 15:07:44 GMT, Scott Robins <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Dogfish Head brews a "120 Minute IPA" which is 21% ABV. It's actually
unpleasant. Tastes nothing like beer, a lot like cognac.

Their 60 and 90 Minute IPAs are a hophead's dream though.

ScottR

I agree. I love the 90 minute and 60 minute IPA's. Anything more would be less.

Too much of a good thing is still too much.

In article <[email hidden]>,

Dog3 said:

Oh man, this stuff sounds killer. A couple of shots of beer and you're on
the floor. The article states "everyone" that has tried it has been
enthusiastic. I guess so. After a few glasses one is probably unconscious.
I think I'll pass.

Michael

Fri Sep 9,11:24 AM ET

BERLIN (Reuters) - A German brewer has concocted what he says is the
world's strongest beer, a potent drink with an alcohol content of 25.4
percent that is served in a shot glass.

I'm sorry, Michael, but this seems ridiculous, and nothing more than a
publicity attempt (which has apparently worked, at least on this group).
Techniques for increasing alcohol content have been known for hundreds
of years. Much whiskey is made out of the same ingredient as beer
(barley), can be served in a shot glass, and has a much higher alcohol
content than this stuff. It's just not called "beer". I'm not going to
call this stuff "beer" either. It is common to call beverages made like
beer but more than about 10% alcohol "barley wine". They don't taste
much like beer, and need to be aged more like wine than beer. In normal
fermentation, the yeast is killed when the alcohol content reaches
around 14% or a little higher.

If you have somebody in a bar knocking back a couple of pints of a light
beer, they'll be walking out pretty steadily. If you have somebody
knock back a couple of pints of whiskey, they'll be having some troubles.

Dan Abel <[email hidden]> wrote in
news:[email hidden]:

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Dog3 said:

Oh man, this stuff sounds killer. A couple of shots of beer and
you're on the floor. The article states "everyone" that has tried it
has been enthusiastic. I guess so. After a few glasses one is
probably unconscious. I think I'll pass.

Michael

Fri Sep 9,11:24 AM ET

BERLIN (Reuters) - A German brewer has concocted what he says is the
world's strongest beer, a potent drink with an alcohol content of
25.4 percent that is served in a shot glass.

I'm sorry, Michael, but this seems ridiculous, and nothing more than a
publicity attempt (which has apparently worked, at least on this
group).

No need to be sorry Dan. I'm just the messenger. I agree, it does seem
ridiculous. I don't know about publicity stunt, it was a news article.
IMO the article condones heavy drinking.

Quoted message said:

Techniques for increasing alcohol content have been known for
hundreds of years. Much whiskey is made out of the same ingredient as
beer (barley), can be served in a shot glass, and has a much higher
alcohol content than this stuff. It's just not called "beer". I'm
not going to call this stuff "beer" either. It is common to call
beverages made like beer but more than about 10% alcohol "barley
wine". They don't taste much like beer, and need to be aged more like
wine than beer. In normal fermentation, the yeast is killed when the
alcohol content reaches around 14% or a little higher.

Thanks for the info.

Quoted message said:

If you have somebody in a bar knocking back a couple of pints of a
light beer, they'll be walking out pretty steadily. If you have
somebody knock back a couple of pints of whiskey, they'll be having
some troubles.

Beer has never been a favorite drink of mine. I might have one on a really
hot day but that's about it. I've tasted many different types of beer
though. Never like any of 'em that much.

Michael

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RJ said:

jmcquown said:

RJ said:

I'm reminded of an old bar-bet;
It's for guys with nothing beter to do,
who spend lots of time sitting around bar-rooms.

Using a shot glass,
Drink 60 (?) beers in 60 minutes.

ie one shot-glass of beer every minute. ( not sooner, not later )

Then, walk across the room if you can.

<rj>

No law-abiding bar (okay, that sounds funny) would allow this any
more. We had a place in Memphis (East End Grill) have their liquor
license yanked after allowing a group of college kids get into a
drinking contest. Not only did they allow it, witnesses said the
employees encouraged it. And they weren't drinking beer. I can't
remember the exact drink but it was one of those fru-fru red things
with about 4 liquors in it. Not only were the employees aware the
kids were loaded and kept on serving them, one of the boys collapsed
and died of severe alcohol poisoning.

I enjoy my beer and wine. But drinking contests and [censored] like this
are just stupid. (And I don't drink and drive.) I have no use for
a beer that is 25% alcohol. Keep your PGA and other stuff with no
purpose other than to get you drunk FAST. Where's the fun in that,
really? It's like the hot sauce thread - it isn't sauce, it's just
hot. Eat some raw Thai chillies if you want to burn your mouth off.
I'll say no thanks 🙂

Jill

Now, how could you possibly get hurt drinking
a shot-glass full of beer ?
Doesn't really sound extreme.

"Drink 60 (?) beers in 60 minutes." Nothing in the challenge indicates how
much alcohol in the beer served in shot-glasses. They could be drinking
[censored]-water light beer, or they could have a stronger (much stronger) stout
type beer. My point was about the contest idea, anyway, and wasn't meant to
point a finger at you for posting about it 🙂

Quoted message said:

BTW; College kids use beer-bongs or funnels.
<rj>

Not in a "restaurant" they don't <G>

Jill

Dan Abel said:

I'm sorry, Michael, but this seems ridiculous, and nothing more than a
publicity attempt (which has apparently worked, at least on this group).

"worked"? How so? Someone here buy this product?

Quoted message said:

Techniques for increasing alcohol content have been known for hundreds
of years.

Hang on, we'll get back to this one.

Quoted message said:

Much whiskey is made out of the same ingredient as beer (barley),
can be served in a shot glass, and has a much higher alcohol content
than this stuff. It's just not called "beer".

Much whiskey is made from the same ingredient found in cornbread. So
what? Neither are beer, hence the reason they are not called beer.

Quoted message said:

I'm not going to
call this stuff "beer" either.

Who cares? It's still beer.

Quoted message said:

It is common to call beverages made like
beer but more than about 10% alcohol "barley wine".

They also call them trippels, ales, eisbocks, and maybe even late for
dinner. Still beer.

Quoted message said:

They don't taste
much like beer......

According to your narrow definition of beer. Beer!

Quoted message said:

In normal
fermentation, the yeast is killed when the alcohol content reaches
around 14% or a little higher.

Now, back to your previous statement, "Techniques for increasing
alcohol content....". This also applies to *BEER*. Using certain
techniques beer can be fermented to 25%abv. I can buy the yeast at
any wine/beer shop.

Quoted message said:

If you have somebody in a bar knocking back a couple of pints of a light
beer, they'll be walking out pretty steadily. If you have somebody
knock back a couple of pints of whiskey, they'll be having some troubles.

Yeah, they might be dead.

nb

Dog3 said:

"I'm pretty sure the Americans have something up their sleeve."

Ooooh, this is begging for a crude response, but I'll refrain.... except that
*most* American beer should not even be called beer. More like colored alcohol
water. YES there are a few good beers, but thats a FEW and one thing is they are
NOT made by schlochweisr-worsch. Many of these have lost their way from the
German roots.

LONG LIVE Budvar Budweiser the REAL King of Beers!

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Quoted message said:

Ooooh, this is begging for a crude response, but I'll refrain.... except that
*most* American beer should not even be called beer. More like colored alcohol
water.

Sad, but true. I had to laugh in another newsgroup when someone ranted about the French
and how they couldn't make a decent beer. Aside from the fact that there are a few
good French beers that I like to buy whenever I see them in the liquor store, I was
struck by the irony. That has to be the ultimate case of the pot calling the kettle
black.

Quoted message said:

water. YES there are a few good beers, but thats a FEW......

There are more than a *FEW* good beers. There are hundreds, if not
thousands, of good-to-great beers here in the US. Unfortunately,
you're not likely to find them next to the Bud display at you local
stupormarket. The US is absolutely lousy with awesome micro-brewery
offerings in every style and size, but you have to go out and actively
hunt them down. This shouldn't be too difficult as even your local
pizza joint is now in the business of brewing killer beers of all
types.

nb

Jill,
A shot it about an ounce or, frequently and ounce and a half. So
60 one ounce shots would be five 12 oz beers. Most bars do allow people
to drink that much. That is one beer every 12 minutes. Keep it up for
more than an hour and your bound for hang-over land, but most bars
won't bat an eye when serving people at this rate. Given that you are
drinking 60 different beers, you would average out to an average
alcohol content, which would be close to 4.5% - 5% by weight. Some
imports seem higher, but some of those measure by volume, which results
in an apparently larger percentage of alcohol, but this is due to the
difference in measement.

Dean G.

"Dan Abel" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Dog3 said:

Oh man, this stuff sounds killer. A couple of shots of beer and you're

on

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the floor. The article states "everyone" that has tried it has been
enthusiastic. I guess so. After a few glasses one is probably

unconscious.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I think I'll pass.

Michael

Fri Sep 9,11:24 AM ET

BERLIN (Reuters) - A German brewer has concocted what he says is the
world's strongest beer, a potent drink with an alcohol content of 25.4
percent that is served in a shot glass.

I'm sorry, Michael, but this seems ridiculous, and nothing more than a
publicity attempt (which has apparently worked, at least on this group).
Techniques for increasing alcohol content have been known for hundreds
of years. Much whiskey is made out of the same ingredient as beer
(barley), can be served in a shot glass, and has a much higher alcohol
content than this stuff. It's just not called "beer". I'm not going to
call this stuff "beer" either. It is common to call beverages made like
beer but more than about 10% alcohol "barley wine".

It may be a publicity stunt to some degree at least, but people have not
been making beverages this strong by fermentation alone (which this *is*)
for hundreds of years at all, it is a comparitively recent thing. That there
are beers that can now be brewed to these strengths at all is a direct
result of these 'strongest beer in the world' competitions between different
brewers. Many techniques are used to achieve these high alcohol counts, but
it all starts with yeasts specially bred to have a high tolerance for
alcohol.

Quoted message said:

They don't taste
much like beer, and need to be aged more like wine than beer. In normal
fermentation, the yeast is killed when the alcohol content reaches
around 14% or a little higher.

So you are taking issue with the naming of these as 'beers'?

Quoted message said:

If you have somebody in a bar knocking back a couple of pints of a light
beer, they'll be walking out pretty steadily. If you have somebody
knock back a couple of pints of whiskey, they'll be having some troubles.

Precisely - these are not brewed to be consumed in the same amounts as your
average strength beers. I have actually enjoyed quite a few brews in the 17
to 20 % abv range, but not by the pint! There may be *some* gimmick
involved, but it sure as heck is not *all* gimmick.

Cheers!

Shaun aRe

[email hidden] a écrit :

Quoted message said:

except that
*most* American beer should not even be called beer. More like colored
alcohol water.

Had some good ones in Boston but the majority of readily available US
"beers" taste like cold [censored] in a can. So does Coke in the US. Go
figger.

Shaun aRe said:

Quoted message said:

If you have somebody in a bar knocking back a couple of pints of a light
beer, they'll be walking out pretty steadily. If you have somebody
knock back a couple of pints of whiskey, they'll be having some troubles.

Precisely - these are not brewed to be consumed in the same amounts as your
average strength beers. I have actually enjoyed quite a few brews in the 17
to 20 % abv range, but not by the pint! There may be *some* gimmick
involved, but it sure as heck is not *all* gimmick.

One of my favourite beers is a Danish brew called Faxe. I hadn't realized that
they made an overproof strain of it until one day I walked into the local beer
store and asked for a half dozen cans of it and was asked "5 or 10?". No I
wanted a half dozen...... 6. It turned out that he was asking if I wanted the
5% 0r 10%. I gave the 10% variety a try but didn't like it much You can
actually taste the alcohol.

alsandor <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
[email hidden] a écrit :

Quoted message said:

Had some good ones in Boston but the majority of readily
available US "beers" taste like cold [censored] in a can.

And you know what "cold [censored] in a can" tastes like from personal
experience, no doubt. There are good US-based breweries out there but
they aren't the Big 3 (in sales or production volume) for a single
reason: the majority of consumers do not want something "with character"
for everyday drinking. The higher the alcohol content, the smaller the
customer base it will appeal to. It comes down to simple math.

The Ranger

: In article <[email hidden]>,
: Dog3 <[email hidden]> wrote:

: > Oh man, this stuff sounds killer. A couple of shots of beer and you're on
: > the floor. The article states "everyone" that has tried it has been
: > enthusiastic. I guess so. After a few glasses one is probably unconscious.
: > I think I'll pass.
: >
: > Michael
: >
: > Fri Sep 9,11:24 AM ET
: >
: > BERLIN (Reuters) - A German brewer has concocted what he says is the
: > world's strongest beer, a potent drink with an alcohol content of 25.4
: > percent that is served in a shot glass.

: I'm sorry, Michael, but this seems ridiculous, and nothing more than a
: publicity attempt (which has apparently worked, at least on this group).
: Techniques for increasing alcohol content have been known for hundreds
: of years. Much whiskey is made out of the same ingredient as beer
: (barley), can be served in a shot glass, and has a much higher alcohol
: content than this stuff. It's just not called "beer". I'm not going to
: call this stuff "beer" either. It is common to call beverages made like
: beer but more than about 10% alcohol "barley wine". They don't taste
: much like beer, and need to be aged more like wine than beer. In normal
: fermentation, the yeast is killed when the alcohol content reaches
: around 14% or a little higher.

Not only that, but champagne yeast can only ferment to around 12-14% ABV,
beer yeasts lower than that. So some other technique must be used to
increase the alcohol content once the ferment has finished. By doing
so it's no longer "beer".