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Hi walkers, Am I asking the impossible? I want a gps that can
show paths, bridle ways etc in GB
Jim North London.

Buy a mapping gps (several brands), buy mapsoftware (several brands) or use
software (several brands) to make your own digital maps.
google in uk.rec.walking for previous threads.

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Theo
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You will probably need one that can display O/S mapping and because of
licensing wrangles I believe the only current devices are Magellan, but I
may be completely wrong of course!

Jon

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"James Chambers" <[email hidden]> schreef in bericht
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Hi walkers, Am I asking the impossible? I want a gps that can
show paths, bridle ways etc in GB
Jim North London.

Buy a mapping gps (several brands), buy mapsoftware (several brands) or
use software (several brands) to make your own digital maps.
google in uk.rec.walking for previous threads.

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Theo
www.theosphotos.fotopic.net

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You will probably need one that can display O/S mapping and because of
licensing wrangles I believe the only current devices are Magellan, but I
may be completely wrong of course!

Garmin is ok too. You can get the OSmapping from Anquet or MemoryMap cd's
and download it from your PC to your GPS.

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Theo
www.theosphotos.fotopic.net

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You will probably need one that can display O/S mapping and because of
licensing wrangles I believe the only current devices are Magellan, but I
may be completely wrong of course!

Garmin is ok too. You can get the OSmapping from Anquet or MemoryMap cd's
and download it from your PC to your GPS.

No you can't.
The only maps you can load onto Garmin handhelds are Garmin's MapSource
products (plus a few 'homebrew' maps).

The only MapSource products for the UK are only street / road maps.

For homebrew maps, these free contour maps are pretty good:
http://www.smc.org.uk/books/books_contour_maps.htm
But they are only contours and summits / trig points, i.e. no paths.

I think there are a few people working on free footpath maps, but they
are only for very limited areas of the country.

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Craig Wallace
http://craig.neogeo.org.uk
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http://www.globalpositioningsystems.co.uk/viewprod.php?flt=application&category_id=1&pp_id=151&cid=90&vt=list&hp=Recreational%2Ccategory_id%3D1%7CMagellan%2Cmfg%3DMagellan&product_id=2058

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You will probably need one that can display O/S mapping and because of
licensing wrangles I believe the only current devices are Magellan, but I
may be completely wrong of course!

Garmin is ok too. You can get the OSmapping from Anquet or MemoryMap cd's
and download it from your PC to your GPS.

No you can't.
The only maps you can load onto Garmin handhelds are Garmin's MapSource
products (plus a few 'homebrew' maps).

The only MapSource products for the UK are only street / road maps.

For homebrew maps, these free contour maps are pretty good:
http://www.smc.org.uk/books/books_contour_maps.htm
But they are only contours and summits / trig points, i.e. no paths.

I think there are a few people working on free footpath maps, but they are
only for very limited areas of the country.

--
Craig Wallace
http://craig.neogeo.org.uk
http://www.neogeo.org.uk

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>You will probably need one that can display O/S mapping and because of
>licensing wrangles I believe the only current devices are Magellan, but I
>may be completely wrong of course!

I've got a copy of this software. It does show tracks and paths, but is
nothing like following an OS map. It's quite hard to distinguish
visually between paths, water features, contours and your own
track (i.e. the breadcrumb trail) at least on my monochrome
Meridian Platinum. Probably better on a colour version.

Other major irritations are :

No indication of whether a path is a private path or a right of
way. Can be a problem in some areas, may not matter on open access
land.

PC software works only in lat/long : no possibility of entering
routes or waypoints using grid refs. The receiver itself does,
however, allow the use of grid refs as you'd expect.

It isn't a total disaster, but it's definitely something you'd
want to try before spending your hard-earned cash on. PDA-based
solutions with full raster maps will probably give something
more reasonable but you'll also need waterproof packaging and
some means of keeping the battery charged : dedicated GPS
receivers are still better at this.

-adrian

Bitstring <[email hidden]>, from the wonderful person
James Chambers <[email hidden]> said

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Hi walkers, Am I asking the impossible? I want a gps that can
show paths, bridle ways etc in GB
Jim North London.

Magellan have a 'topo' map of the UK available for their handsets, but
it is missing a large number of ROWs and paths (but hey, the OS maps are
wrong too!). You can actually check out the area you care about at the
Magellan website and see how bad it is...

Garmin claim (3 months ago, when I last dinged them) to be still
negotiating with the OS about getting the data for UK topo maps for
Garmin handsets. Do not hold your breath - the OS are bandits and don't
need the money, Garmin are bandits and don't need the maps. I have put a
complete set of contour maps, peaks, and trig pillar, data (in Garmin
format) out on the SMC website, but that won't help you with paths. I am
working through the footpaths (ROWs) in South Shropshire .. 20 parishes
down, 184 to go. Do not hold your breath there either.

I believe other folks are doing other bits of the country ... google for
them.

Actually building your own Garmin maps (using gpsmapedit and cgpsmapper)
isn't that hard, but it is time consuming (and you either have to walk
the paths, or hand-digitize over OS mapping, aerial photos or whatever).

If you don't mind carrying a PDA/PPC around with you, you can do a
'moving map' over an OS 1:25k display (either from someone like
tracklogs/memory map/anquet/etc., or from a digitised paper map).
Downside is it ain't that portable, and it'll eat batteries (compared to
a 'real' GPS).

HTH.

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Contact recommends the use of Firefox; SC recommends it at gunpoint.

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You will probably need one that can display O/S mapping and because of
licensing wrangles I believe the only current devices are Magellan, but I
may be completely wrong of course!

Garmin is ok too. You can get the OSmapping from Anquet or MemoryMap cd's
and download it from your PC to your GPS.

No you can't.
The only maps you can load onto Garmin handhelds are Garmin's MapSource
products (plus a few 'homebrew' maps).

I haven't (yet) got a gps but according to the Anquet software you can
download routes, waypoints and maps to a lot of Garmin devises, including
the GPS 12 map, the GPSMAP76, GPSMAP176, GPSMAP60c.

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Theo
www.theosphotos.fotopic.net

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>You will probably need one that can display O/S mapping and because of
>licensing wrangles I believe the only current devices are Magellan, but I
>may be completely wrong of course!

Garmin is ok too. You can get the OSmapping from Anquet or MemoryMap cd's
and download it from your PC to your GPS.

No you can't.
The only maps you can load onto Garmin handhelds are Garmin's MapSource
products (plus a few 'homebrew' maps).

I haven't (yet) got a gps but according to the Anquet software you can
download routes, waypoints and maps to a lot of Garmin devises, including
the GPS 12 map, the GPSMAP76, GPSMAP176, GPSMAP60c.

Routes, waypoints, and tracks - yes for sure, as can Tracklogs,
Oziexplorer, Mapsource, and sundry other programs.

Maps? - not as far as I know. GPS handsets require vector maps (x,y
co-ordinate pairs for turnpoints), I don't believe Anquet have maps in
that format.

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Contact recommends the use of Firefox; SC recommends it at gunpoint.

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Bitstring <[email hidden]>, from the wonderful person
James Chambers <[email hidden]> said

Quoted message said:

Hi walkers, Am I asking the impossible? I want a gps that can
show paths, bridle ways etc in GB
Jim North London.

Magellan have a 'topo' map of the UK available for their handsets, but
it is missing a large number of ROWs and paths (but hey, the OS maps are
wrong too!). You can actually check out the area you care about at the
Magellan website and see how bad it is...

Garmin claim (3 months ago, when I last dinged them) to be still
negotiating with the OS about getting the data for UK topo maps for
Garmin handsets. Do not hold your breath - the OS are bandits and don't
need the money, Garmin are bandits and don't need the maps. I have put a
complete set of contour maps, peaks, and trig pillar, data (in Garmin
format) out on the SMC website, but that won't help you with paths. I am
working through the footpaths (ROWs) in South Shropshire .. 20 parishes
down, 184 to go. Do not hold your breath there either.

I believe other folks are doing other bits of the country ... google for
them.

Actually building your own Garmin maps (using gpsmapedit and cgpsmapper)
isn't that hard, but it is time consuming (and you either have to walk
the paths, or hand-digitize over OS mapping, aerial photos or whatever).

If you don't mind carrying a PDA/PPC around with you, you can do a
'moving map' over an OS 1:25k display (either from someone like
tracklogs/memory map/anquet/etc., or from a digitised paper map).
Downside is it ain't that portable, and it'll eat batteries (compared to
a 'real' GPS).

HTH.

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GSV Three Minds in a Can
Contact recommends the use of Firefox; SC recommends it at gunpoint.

You might think of using a PDA with a software package like memory map,
should do what you want but not a aware of any that are weatherproof.

Gerald

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> "JRS" <[email hidden]> schreef in bericht
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>>You will probably need one that can display O/S mapping and because of
>>licensing wrangles I believe the only current devices are Magellan, but
>>I
>>may be completely wrong of course!
>
>
> Garmin is ok too. You can get the OSmapping from Anquet or MemoryMap
> cd's
> and download it from your PC to your GPS.

No you can't.
The only maps you can load onto Garmin handhelds are Garmin's MapSource
products (plus a few 'homebrew' maps).

I haven't (yet) got a gps but according to the Anquet software you can
download routes, waypoints and maps to a lot of Garmin devises, including
the GPS 12 map, the GPSMAP76, GPSMAP176, GPSMAP60c.

Routes, waypoints, and tracks - yes for sure, as can Tracklogs,
Oziexplorer, Mapsource, and sundry other programs.

Maps? - not as far as I know. GPS handsets require vector maps (x,y
co-ordinate pairs for turnpoints), I don't believe Anquet have maps in
that format.

I must have misunderstood. I've saved up some money to buy a Geko 201 and
I'll be using it with printed and laminated maps from the Anquet software.

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Theo
www.theosphotos.fotopic.net

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theo wrote:
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I've saved up some money to buy a Geko 201 and
I'll be using it with printed and laminated maps from the Anquet software.

<<<</snip>>>>

Good shout....a similar combination works for me.

Geko 201 and MemoryMap. Obviously no onscreen contour map but if you
download the route (I don't) and/or waypoints (I do) it can provide
some information e.g. zoom out to get a feel of where you are in
relation to the peaks (waypoints in my case). Zoom in for directional
assistance.

David.

On 30/8/05 10:15, in article
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You will probably need one that can display O/S mapping and because of
licensing wrangles I believe the only current devices are Magellan, but I
may be completely wrong of course!

The Magellan range will do this. The display is better than you would
imagine but I wonder how practical this will be on the trail.

Even with such a machine there is no substitute for a map and a compass -
really!

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Andy Howell
Birmingham, UK

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