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  1. If I can lift X amount of weight (use DL as an example) for 5 reps with
    good form, what should I attempt as a 1RM?
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  2. "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    If I can lift X amount of weight (use DL as an example) for 5 reps with
    good form, what should I attempt as a 1RM?

    http://www.exrx.net/Calculators/OneRepMax.html

  3. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Bob Garrison said:

    "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    If I can lift X amount of weight (use DL as an example) for 5 reps with
    good form, what should I attempt as a 1RM?

    http://www.exrx.net/Calculators/OneRepMax.html

    Cool site and easy to use!

    Thank you very much! :-)

    I'll have to carefully "play" with some of those calculated weights.

    Cheers!
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  4. "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Bob Garrison said:

    "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    If I can lift X amount of weight (use DL as an example) for 5 reps with
    good form, what should I attempt as a 1RM?

    http://www.exrx.net/Calculators/OneRepMax.html

    Cool site and easy to use!

    Thank you very much! :-)

    I'll have to carefully "play" with some of those calculated weights.

    YW.
    Keep in mind you are inviting injury if you actually attempt a 1RM.

  5. Yes lol..

    "Bob Garrison" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Bob Garrison said:

    "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    > If I can lift X amount of weight (use DL as an example) for 5 reps
    > with
    > good form, what should I attempt as a 1RM?

    http://www.exrx.net/Calculators/OneRepMax.html

    Cool site and easy to use!

    Thank you very much! :-)

    I'll have to carefully "play" with some of those calculated weights.

    YW.
    Keep in mind you are inviting injury if you actually attempt a 1RM.

  6. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Bob Garrison said:

    "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Bob Garrison said:

    "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    > If I can lift X amount of weight (use DL as an example) for 5 reps with
    > good form, what should I attempt as a 1RM?

    http://www.exrx.net/Calculators/OneRepMax.html

    Cool site and easy to use!

    Thank you very much! :-)

    I'll have to carefully "play" with some of those calculated weights.

    YW.
    Keep in mind you are inviting injury if you actually attempt a 1RM.

    I know...

    Note the word "Carefully". ;-)

    But thanks for the caution!
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  7. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Chingy said:

    Yes lol..

    "Bob Garrison" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    "Bob Garrison" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    > "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > news:[email hidden]...
    > > If I can lift X amount of weight (use DL as an example) for 5 reps
    > > with
    > > good form, what should I attempt as a 1RM?
    >
    > http://www.exrx.net/Calculators/OneRepMax.html
    >
    >

    Cool site and easy to use!

    Thank you very much! :-)

    I'll have to carefully "play" with some of those calculated weights.

    YW.
    Keep in mind you are inviting injury if you actually attempt a 1RM.

    Why? Olympic lifters and powerlifters regularly attempt 1RM and the
    incidence of injury in those sports is very low.

    If you attempt a 1RM without a good plan to work up to it I would agree
    with that. Mainly because your technique will get sloppy as you aren't
    used to the weight. But there are still safe ways to do 1RM's.

    I normally attempt 1RM at least once per month in the C&J, [censored] and
    squat. I've done programs where I did 1RM's daily and then backed down
    for my worksets.

    --
    Keith

  8. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Hobbes said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Chingy said:

    Yes lol..

    "Bob Garrison" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    > In article <[email hidden]>,
    > "Bob Garrison" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >
    >> "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    >> news:[email hidden]...
    >> > If I can lift X amount of weight (use DL as an example) for 5 reps
    >> > with
    >> > good form, what should I attempt as a 1RM?
    >>
    >> http://www.exrx.net/Calculators/OneRepMax.html
    >>
    >>
    >
    > Cool site and easy to use!
    >
    > Thank you very much! :-)
    >
    > I'll have to carefully "play" with some of those calculated weights.
    >

    YW.
    Keep in mind you are inviting injury if you actually attempt a 1RM.

    Why? Olympic lifters and powerlifters regularly attempt 1RM and the
    incidence of injury in those sports is very low.

    If you attempt a 1RM without a good plan to work up to it I would agree
    with that. Mainly because your technique will get sloppy as you aren't
    used to the weight. But there are still safe ways to do 1RM's.

    I normally attempt 1RM at least once per month in the C&J, [censored] and
    squat. I've done programs where I did 1RM's daily and then backed down
    for my worksets.

    Interesing note, the doc I originally saw for weight loss and endocrine
    issues is also heavily into sports medicine and anti-aging medicine.

    I was talking to him the other day down in the ER when he was on duty.

    He told me that if I wanted to maximize fat burn and endogenous HGH
    production, I should set my main lifts for 3 reps to failure. No more,
    no less...

    3 sets.

    It'd sure speed up my workouts. ;-)
    The trick would be figuring out where to set the bar weight.

    What do you think of that?
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  9. In article <[email hidden]>,

    OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Hobbes said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Chingy said:

    Yes lol..

    "Bob Garrison" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    >
    > "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > news:[email hidden]...
    >> In article <[email hidden]>,
    >> "Bob Garrison" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >>
    >>> "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    >>> news:[email hidden]...
    >>> > If I can lift X amount of weight (use DL as an example) for 5 reps
    >>> > with
    >>> > good form, what should I attempt as a 1RM?
    >>>
    >>> http://www.exrx.net/Calculators/OneRepMax.html
    >>>
    >>>
    >>
    >> Cool site and easy to use!
    >>
    >> Thank you very much! :-)
    >>
    >> I'll have to carefully "play" with some of those calculated weights.
    >>
    >
    > YW.
    > Keep in mind you are inviting injury if you actually attempt a 1RM.
    >
    >

    Why? Olympic lifters and powerlifters regularly attempt 1RM and the
    incidence of injury in those sports is very low.

    If you attempt a 1RM without a good plan to work up to it I would agree
    with that. Mainly because your technique will get sloppy as you aren't
    used to the weight. But there are still safe ways to do 1RM's.

    I normally attempt 1RM at least once per month in the C&J, [censored] and
    squat. I've done programs where I did 1RM's daily and then backed down
    for my worksets.

    Interesing note, the doc I originally saw for weight loss and endocrine
    issues is also heavily into sports medicine and anti-aging medicine.

    I was talking to him the other day down in the ER when he was on duty.

    He told me that if I wanted to maximize fat burn and endogenous HGH
    production, I should set my main lifts for 3 reps to failure. No more,
    no less...

    3 sets.

    It'd sure speed up my workouts. ;-)
    The trick would be figuring out where to set the bar weight.

    What do you think of that?

    I don't think much of it. There is really no such thing as 'fat burn' -
    so I'm assuming he is talking about body recomposition. Reducing bodyfat
    and increasing muscle mass. If so I'm not sure sets to failure is going
    to be productive for any length of time.

    To be honest, I don't see anyone really saying one program is the best
    for all people for all time for any objective. It simply doesn't work
    that way. The whole issue of diet, exercise and restoration is
    exceedingly complex - there is so much plasticity in adaptation that IMO
    it is more an issue of finding something that works and moves the person
    in the right direction.

    David Cohen did a 'thank you' where he mentioned Lyle MacDonald's diet
    program had allowed him to drop a lot of weight. But in Lyle's book
    UD2.0 (Ultimate Diet 2.0) he has a program set up for exercise and diet.
    And the exercise tends to be highly varied - in terms of intensity,
    volume and overall load. The eating pattern also shows a lot af variety
    and cycling.

    To me this makes the most sense. Variety - no doing sets consistently to
    failure or eating 1200 calories per day. I have to admit I'm highly
    structured so my variety is planned. But I have days where I lift
    extremely heavy and other days I lift extremely light. I have days I eat
    a lot of carbs and days I eat very few. I have endurance days, strength
    days and speed days.

    I find that works for me - gets me on the right path and keeps me there.

    Don't get me wrong. At certain times I'm sure reduced sets and lifting
    to failure would have some benefit. At other times doing higher reps and
    sets and reducing the intensity would also have some benefit.

    --
    Keith

  10. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Hobbes said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Hobbes said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    "Chingy" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    > Yes lol..
    >
    > "Bob Garrison" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > news:[email hidden]...
    > >
    > > "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email hidden]...
    > >> In article <[email hidden]>,
    > >> "Bob Garrison" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > >>
    > >>> "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > >>> news:[email hidden]...
    > >>> > If I can lift X amount of weight (use DL as an example) for 5
    > >>> > reps
    > >>> > with
    > >>> > good form, what should I attempt as a 1RM?
    > >>>
    > >>> http://www.exrx.net/Calculators/OneRepMax.html
    > >>>
    > >>>
    > >>
    > >> Cool site and easy to use!
    > >>
    > >> Thank you very much! :-)
    > >>
    > >> I'll have to carefully "play" with some of those calculated weights.
    > >>
    > >
    > > YW.
    > > Keep in mind you are inviting injury if you actually attempt a 1RM.
    > >
    > >
    >
    >

    Why? Olympic lifters and powerlifters regularly attempt 1RM and the
    incidence of injury in those sports is very low.

    If you attempt a 1RM without a good plan to work up to it I would agree
    with that. Mainly because your technique will get sloppy as you aren't
    used to the weight. But there are still safe ways to do 1RM's.

    I normally attempt 1RM at least once per month in the C&J, [censored] and
    squat. I've done programs where I did 1RM's daily and then backed down
    for my worksets.

    Interesing note, the doc I originally saw for weight loss and endocrine
    issues is also heavily into sports medicine and anti-aging medicine.

    I was talking to him the other day down in the ER when he was on duty.

    He told me that if I wanted to maximize fat burn and endogenous HGH
    production, I should set my main lifts for 3 reps to failure. No more,
    no less...

    3 sets.

    It'd sure speed up my workouts. ;-)
    The trick would be figuring out where to set the bar weight.

    What do you think of that?

    I don't think much of it. There is really no such thing as 'fat burn' -
    so I'm assuming he is talking about body recomposition. Reducing bodyfat
    and increasing muscle mass. If so I'm not sure sets to failure is going
    to be productive for any length of time.

    To be honest, I don't see anyone really saying one program is the best
    for all people for all time for any objective. It simply doesn't work
    that way. The whole issue of diet, exercise and restoration is
    exceedingly complex - there is so much plasticity in adaptation that IMO
    it is more an issue of finding something that works and moves the person
    in the right direction.

    David Cohen did a 'thank you' where he mentioned Lyle MacDonald's diet
    program had allowed him to drop a lot of weight. But in Lyle's book
    UD2.0 (Ultimate Diet 2.0) he has a program set up for exercise and diet.
    And the exercise tends to be highly varied - in terms of intensity,
    volume and overall load. The eating pattern also shows a lot af variety
    and cycling.

    To me this makes the most sense. Variety - no doing sets consistently to
    failure or eating 1200 calories per day. I have to admit I'm highly
    structured so my variety is planned. But I have days where I lift
    extremely heavy and other days I lift extremely light. I have days I eat
    a lot of carbs and days I eat very few. I have endurance days, strength
    days and speed days.

    I find that works for me - gets me on the right path and keeps me there.

    Don't get me wrong. At certain times I'm sure reduced sets and lifting
    to failure would have some benefit. At other times doing higher reps and
    sets and reducing the intensity would also have some benefit.

    I've found that "mixing it up" works best for me.
    It also keeps me from getting bored. ;-)
    I don't even do the same moves for the same muscle groups every week.
    The only moves I do EVERY week are deadlifts and bench presses. I vary
    the leg exercises weekly due to my arthritic knees.

    Ab crunches are also a given.

    Dr. Gitterle's point was that heavier lifts to failure increased HGH
    output. I'm sure he told me that based on some studies, but I did not
    ask him about that. I just know how he works in general since I've been
    dealing with him for several years... He's pretty savvy on endocrinology.

    He's one of the few docs I've run into that actually understands that T3
    levels are more important than T4 levels!

    He's a neat dude.

    I've had to work out a routine based on my work schedule.

    Teusday: Deadlifts and abs.

    Wednesday: Back, chest and abs.

    Thursday: Legs, biceps, triceps and abs.

    Friday: Whatever muscle groups are not already sore from the first three
    days. ;-)

    Sat., Sun., Mon., Cardio only.
    I also do cardio for 35 minutes on Teus. thru Fri. prior to lifting.
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  11. "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    If I can lift X amount of weight (use DL as an example) for 5 reps with
    good form, what should I attempt as a 1RM?
    --
    Om.

    1.11x

  12. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Jay said:

    "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    If I can lift X amount of weight (use DL as an example) for 5 reps with
    good form, what should I attempt as a 1RM?
    --
    Om.

    1.11x

    Ok.

    That posted website had far more information
    and gave rep variables:

    http://www.exrx.net/Calculators/OneRepMax.html

    Thanks for the input tho'.
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  13. In article <[email hidden]>,

    OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Hobbes said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    Hobbes <[email hidden]> wrote:

    > In article <[email hidden]>,
    > "Chingy" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >
    > > Yes lol..
    > >
    > > "Bob Garrison" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email hidden]...
    > > >
    > > > "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > > > news:[email hidden]...
    > > >> In article <[email hidden]>,
    > > >> "Bob Garrison" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > > >>
    > > >>> "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > > >>> news:[email hidden]...
    > > >>> > If I can lift X amount of weight (use DL as an example) for 5
    > > >>> > reps
    > > >>> > with
    > > >>> > good form, what should I attempt as a 1RM?
    > > >>>
    > > >>> http://www.exrx.net/Calculators/OneRepMax.html
    > > >>>
    > > >>>
    > > >>
    > > >> Cool site and easy to use!
    > > >>
    > > >> Thank you very much! :-)
    > > >>
    > > >> I'll have to carefully "play" with some of those calculated
    > > >> weights.
    > > >>
    > > >
    > > > YW.
    > > > Keep in mind you are inviting injury if you actually attempt a 1RM.
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > >
    >
    > Why? Olympic lifters and powerlifters regularly attempt 1RM and the
    > incidence of injury in those sports is very low.
    >
    > If you attempt a 1RM without a good plan to work up to it I would agree
    > with that. Mainly because your technique will get sloppy as you aren't
    > used to the weight. But there are still safe ways to do 1RM's.
    >
    > I normally attempt 1RM at least once per month in the C&J, [censored] and
    > squat. I've done programs where I did 1RM's daily and then backed down
    > for my worksets.

    Interesing note, the doc I originally saw for weight loss and endocrine
    issues is also heavily into sports medicine and anti-aging medicine.

    I was talking to him the other day down in the ER when he was on duty.

    He told me that if I wanted to maximize fat burn and endogenous HGH
    production, I should set my main lifts for 3 reps to failure. No more,
    no less...

    3 sets.

    It'd sure speed up my workouts. ;-)
    The trick would be figuring out where to set the bar weight.

    What do you think of that?

    I don't think much of it. There is really no such thing as 'fat burn' -
    so I'm assuming he is talking about body recomposition. Reducing bodyfat
    and increasing muscle mass. If so I'm not sure sets to failure is going
    to be productive for any length of time.

    To be honest, I don't see anyone really saying one program is the best
    for all people for all time for any objective. It simply doesn't work
    that way. The whole issue of diet, exercise and restoration is
    exceedingly complex - there is so much plasticity in adaptation that IMO
    it is more an issue of finding something that works and moves the person
    in the right direction.

    David Cohen did a 'thank you' where he mentioned Lyle MacDonald's diet
    program had allowed him to drop a lot of weight. But in Lyle's book
    UD2.0 (Ultimate Diet 2.0) he has a program set up for exercise and diet.
    And the exercise tends to be highly varied - in terms of intensity,
    volume and overall load. The eating pattern also shows a lot af variety
    and cycling.

    To me this makes the most sense. Variety - no doing sets consistently to
    failure or eating 1200 calories per day. I have to admit I'm highly
    structured so my variety is planned. But I have days where I lift
    extremely heavy and other days I lift extremely light. I have days I eat
    a lot of carbs and days I eat very few. I have endurance days, strength
    days and speed days.

    I find that works for me - gets me on the right path and keeps me there.

    Don't get me wrong. At certain times I'm sure reduced sets and lifting
    to failure would have some benefit. At other times doing higher reps and
    sets and reducing the intensity would also have some benefit.

    I've found that "mixing it up" works best for me.
    It also keeps me from getting bored. ;-)
    I don't even do the same moves for the same muscle groups every week.
    The only moves I do EVERY week are deadlifts and bench presses. I vary
    the leg exercises weekly due to my arthritic knees.

    Ab crunches are also a given.

    Dr. Gitterle's point was that heavier lifts to failure increased HGH
    output. I'm sure he told me that based on some studies, but I did not
    ask him about that. I just know how he works in general since I've been
    dealing with him for several years... He's pretty savvy on endocrinology.

    I'm not sure this has been demonstrated, to be honest. Normally studies
    use a very rigid structure and the control group program can be a little
    misleading as well. So he may have found a study which suggests 3 sets
    to failure raises HGH output compared to one set to failure, for
    example. Even then I'd question how significant the increase was.

    I'd also question whether a small increase in HGH has any real effect on
    health - or body recomposition for that matter.

    I've been playing around with a real assymetrical loading program used
    by two-time Olympic weightlifting gold medalist Vorobyev.

    It looks something like this:

    Week 1
    Monday - High Intensity/High Volume
    Wednesday - High Intensity/High Volume
    Friday - Low Intensity/Low Volume
    Saturday - Low Intensity/Low Volume

    Week 2
    Monday - High Intensity/High Volume
    Friday - Low Intensity/Low Volume
    Saturday - Low Intensity/Low Volume

    Week 3
    Monday - High Intensity/High Volume
    Wednesday - High Intensity/High Volume
    Friday - Low Intensity/Low Volume

    Week 4
    Wednesday - High Intensity/High Volume
    Thursday - Low Intensity/Low Volume
    Friday - High Intensity/High Volume

    Week 5
    Wednesday - Medium Intensity/Medium Volume
    Friday - Medium Intensity/Medium Volume

    Week 6
    Monday - Medium Intensity/Medium Volume
    Wednesday - Medium Intensity/Medium Volume
    Saturday - Competition or Test

    I normally take Thursday and Sunday completely off and do hard intervals
    on all other days - either the Royal Court (hindu squat, hindu push-up
    and bridge) or some sort of sprint.

    Plus I work in a series of blocks of hypo-caloric, hypo-carbohydrate
    diets days (normally 3 in a row) followed by brown carb loading days. So
    I have 6 blocks of 3 days of hard diet in this plan, normally done
    around HI/HV days of loading.

    Anyhow, it is something I'm just playing with now. I came across this
    loading plan which goes back to the late 60's and early 70's. I've
    always liked wave loading, but this intuitively appealed to me. I'll
    report back in a few months for how it goes.

    --
    Keith

  14. "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Jay said:

    "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    If I can lift X amount of weight (use DL as an example) for 5 reps with
    good form, what should I attempt as a 1RM?
    --
    Om.

    1.11x

    Ok.

    That posted website had far more information
    and gave rep variables:

    http://www.exrx.net/Calculators/OneRepMax.html

    Thanks for the input tho'.
    --
    Om.


    It was just a W.A.G. It is so highly variable. In my case, in the lower rep
    range, no more than 6, I tend to follow at or about 2.5% for each rep.


  15. Quoted message said:

    I've been playing around with a real assymetrical loading program used
    by two-time Olympic weightlifting gold medalist Vorobyev.


    If I did it it would look something like this:

    Quoted message said:

    Weeks 1-4
    Monday - High Intensity/High Volume
    Friday - High Intensity/High Volume

    Quoted message said:

    Week 6
    Saturday - Competition or Test

    About the same number of hard workouts, actually.

    Quoted message said:


    I normally take Thursday and Sunday completely off and do hard intervals
    on all other days - either the Royal Court (hindu squat, hindu push-up
    and bridge) or some sort of sprint.

    I run twice a week to maintain the skill, but rolling is all the
    endurance/stamina/cardio/whatever I need.

    Quoted message said:


    Plus I work in a series of blocks of hypo-caloric, hypo-carbohydrate
    diets days (normally 3 in a row) followed by brown carb loading days. So
    I have 6 blocks of 3 days of hard diet in this plan, normally done
    around HI/HV days of loading.

    I basically eat fruits and veggies for my carbs; a low-carb would be easy
    enough, skip the fruit.

    Quoted message said:


    Anyhow, it is something I'm just playing with now. I came across this
    loading plan which goes back to the late 60's and early 70's. I've
    always liked wave loading, but this intuitively appealed to me. I'll
    report back in a few months for how it goes.

    Cool.

  16. OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

    Interesing note, the doc I originally saw for weight loss and
    endocrine issues is also heavily into sports medicine and anti-aging
    medicine. I was talking to him the other day down in the ER when he
    was on duty. He told me that if I wanted to maximize fat burn and
    endogenous HGH production, I should set my main lifts for 3 reps to
    failure.

    In all animals studied an increase in GH shortens the lifespan and a
    decrease in GH prolongs it.

    GH can arguably improve quality of life in the way morphine improves
    that in terminally ill. But it ain't "elixir of life".

    Also, exercise induces only transient increase. Actually the resting
    levels are lower in athletes. Bottom line, I'd look for a different
    doc :-)

  17. OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Hobbes said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    "Chingy" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    <snip>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Why? Olympic lifters and powerlifters regularly attempt 1RM and the
    incidence of injury in those sports is very low.

    If you attempt a 1RM without a good plan to work up to it I would
    agree with that. Mainly because your technique will get sloppy as
    you aren't used to the weight. But there are still safe ways to do
    1RM's.

    I normally attempt 1RM at least once per month in the C&J, [censored]
    and squat. I've done programs where I did 1RM's daily and then
    backed down for my worksets.

    Interesing note, the doc I originally saw for weight loss and
    endocrine issues is also heavily into sports medicine and anti-aging
    medicine.

    I was talking to him the other day down in the ER when he was on
    duty.

    He told me that if I wanted to maximize fat burn and endogenous HGH
    production, I should set my main lifts for 3 reps to failure. No
    more, no less...

    3 sets.

    It'd sure speed up my workouts. ;-) The trick would be figuring out
    where to set the bar weight.

    What do you think of that?
    --
    Om.

    If you have never tried a period of lower volume higher intensity
    lifting then I would highly recommend it. It's fun, you get to move
    much bigger weights than you would with longer sets, and your workouts
    are done in no time flat 🙂. Sets of three are great for bringing
    your strength up to new levels.

    Jason

  18. In article <[email hidden]>,

    T said:
    Quoted message said:

    I've been playing around with a real assymetrical loading program used
    by two-time Olympic weightlifting gold medalist Vorobyev.


    If I did it it would look something like this:

    Quoted message said:

    Weeks 1-4
    Monday - High Intensity/High Volume
    Friday - High Intensity/High Volume

    Quoted message said:

    Week 6
    Saturday - Competition or Test

    About the same number of hard workouts, actually.

    Yeah, but I like the idea of speed work as well.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    I normally take Thursday and Sunday completely off and do hard intervals
    on all other days - either the Royal Court (hindu squat, hindu push-up
    and bridge) or some sort of sprint.

    I run twice a week to maintain the skill, but rolling is all the
    endurance/stamina/cardio/whatever I need.

    I don't think I could follow this sort of routine and wrestle freestyle.
    My knees get so banged up from shooting that any kind of squat is tough.
    You are doing good being able to do two hard workouts a week.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Plus I work in a series of blocks of hypo-caloric, hypo-carbohydrate
    diets days (normally 3 in a row) followed by brown carb loading days. So
    I have 6 blocks of 3 days of hard diet in this plan, normally done
    around HI/HV days of loading.

    I basically eat fruits and veggies for my carbs; a low-carb would be easy
    enough, skip the fruit.

    Yup. Might not be necessary because of the energy you are burning with
    the BJJ tho...

    I gotta admit - I love fresh-baked brown bread.

    ;^)

    --
    Keith

  19. In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:


    "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    If I can lift X amount of weight (use DL as an example) for 5 reps with
    good form, what should I attempt as a 1RM?

    http://www.exrx.net/Calculators/OneRepMax.html

    Hmm, I'm not sure what they base this site on but it doesn't appear to
    be totally accurate for me. I can DB Bench press 80 lb dumbbells 6
    times. I put that into the site and it said my 1RM is 93 lbs. I can
    (sometimes) do 85 lbs dumbells a couple/few times but I cannot come
    close to pressing 90 pounders. Also, I can do 70 pounders 10 to 12
    times. I put in 70/10 and it also came up with 93 lbs as my 1RM.

    John Black

  20. In article <[email hidden]>,

    John Black said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:


    "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    If I can lift X amount of weight (use DL as an example) for 5 reps with
    good form, what should I attempt as a 1RM?

    http://www.exrx.net/Calculators/OneRepMax.html

    Hmm, I'm not sure what they base this site on but it doesn't appear to
    be totally accurate for me. I can DB Bench press 80 lb dumbbells 6
    times. I put that into the site and it said my 1RM is 93 lbs. I can
    (sometimes) do 85 lbs dumbells a couple/few times but I cannot come
    close to pressing 90 pounders. Also, I can do 70 pounders 10 to 12
    times. I put in 70/10 and it also came up with 93 lbs as my 1RM.

    It's only averages. Your real 1RM changes all the time. I've had a
    powerlifting competition where I only made my opener in a lift like the
    squat - which is a weight I could normally do three reps with. I've had
    other competitions where I added weight to my lifts because the opener
    felt so easy.

    There is no way a formula could figure out one persons 1RM, let alone
    everyones. Competitive powerlifters and weightlifters tend to have more
    fast twitch muscle and highly optimized motor patterns for their lifts -
    there is no way I could do 5 reps with my 1RM weight, for example. OTOH,
    a bodybuilder would have no problem doing 5 reps and might even get 8.

    The easiest way to determine your 1RM is to do it. But that will only
    give you your 1RM for that particular instance. OTOH - what difference
    does it make? You have to train within a certain intensity zone to get
    adaptation.

    --
    Keith

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