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  1. http://www.westonaprice.org/mythstruths/mtvegetarianism.html

    Interesting reading.

    TC

  2. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Quoted message said:

    http://www.westonaprice.org/mythstruths/mtvegetarianism.html

    Interesting reading.

    TC

    Indeed...

    Thanks for posting that!
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  3. And now I'm supposed to post a link that reinforces my side of the
    argument, and then you post another link, and so on.... and then the
    person with the most biased links win, right?

    Whee... ain't the internet grand?

    Goodnight, Chubbo.

  4. Quoted message said:

    And now I'm supposed to post a link that reinforces my side of the
    argument, and then you post another link, and so on.... and then the
    person with the most biased links win, right?

    Whee... ain't the internet grand?

    Goodnight, Chubbo.

    I don't give a rats ass what you do. Vegetarianism is a nutrient
    deficient diet. Period. End of discussion.

    TC

  5. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    And now I'm supposed to post a link that reinforces my side of the
    argument, and then you post another link, and so on.... and then the
    person with the most biased links win, right?

    Whee... ain't the internet grand?

    Goodnight, Chubbo.

    I don't give a rats ass what you do. Vegetarianism is a nutrient
    deficient diet. Period. End of discussion.

    TC

    And being the most obnoxious does not win the discussion.

    TC

  6. No need to elaborate. You've posted 1 link, and I've posted zero
    links. So that makes you the winner, right?

  7. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Quoted message said:

    No need to elaborate. You've posted 1 link, and I've posted zero
    links. So that makes you the winner, right?

    He who dies with the most links wins......
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  8. OmManiPadmeOmelet said:


    He who dies with the most links wins......
    --
    Om.

    Unless he dies a chubby low-carber...

    Alright, I'm just kidding. I'll leave you kids alone. Play nice!

  9. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    http://www.westonaprice.org/mythstruths/mtvegetarianism.html

    Interesting reading.

    TC

    Specifically this:

    MYTH #7: Vegetarians live longer and have more energy and endurance
    than meat-eaters.

    Vegetarians don't live longer; it just feels that way.
    --
    D.F. Manno | [email hidden]
    "Every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives under. "
    - H. L. Mencken

  10. Quoted message said:

    And now I'm supposed to post a link that reinforces my side of the
    argument, and then you post another link, and so on.... and then the
    person with the most biased links win, right?

    Whee... ain't the internet grand?

    Goodnight, Chubbo.


    Good one 🙂 🙂 🙂

    Mirek

    P.S. to TC - that article you linked I have read a couple years ago. Do
    not you have something new? 🙂

  11. Mirek Fidler <[email hidden]> wrote:
    || [email hidden] wrote:
    ||| And now I'm supposed to post a link that reinforces my side
    ||| of the argument, and then you post another link, and so
    ||| on.... and then the person with the most biased links win,
    ||| right?
    |||
    ||| Whee... ain't the internet grand?
    |||
    ||| Goodnight, Chubbo.
    |||
    || Good one 🙂 🙂 🙂
    ||
    || Mirek
    ||
    || P.S. to TC - that article you linked I have read a couple
    || years ago. Do not you have something new? 🙂

    The truth never gets dated... :-)

    --
    --
    "Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately
    explained by stupidity,but remmber that sufficiently advanced
    stupidity is indistinguishable from malice."

  12. D.F. Manno <[email hidden]> wrote:
    || In article
    || <[email hidden]>,
    || [email hidden] wrote:
    ||
    ||| [email hidden] wrote:
    ||||
    http://www.westonaprice.org/mythstruths/mtvegetarianism.html
    ||||
    |||| Interesting reading.
    ||||
    |||| TC
    |||
    ||| Specifically this:
    |||
    ||| MYTH #7: Vegetarians live longer and have more energy and
    ||| endurance than meat-eaters.
    ||
    || Vegetarians don't live longer; it just feels that way.
    || --
    || D.F. Manno | [email hidden]
    || "Every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives
    || under. " - H. L. Mencken

    Perception is what counts... :-)

    --
    --
    "Be careful about reading health books. You may die of a
    misprint." -- Mark Twain

  13. In article <1124421600.a9036b77d403a2db71604baed1024bce@teranews>,

    D.F. Manno said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    http://www.westonaprice.org/mythstruths/mtvegetarianism.html

    Interesting reading.

    TC

    Specifically this:

    MYTH #7: Vegetarians live longer and have more energy and endurance
    than meat-eaters.

    Vegetarians don't live longer; it just feels that way.

    That was funny. ;-D
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  14. Mirek Fidler said:
    Quoted message said:

    And now I'm supposed to post a link that reinforces my side of the
    argument, and then you post another link, and so on.... and then the
    person with the most biased links win, right?

    Whee... ain't the internet grand?

    Goodnight, Chubbo.


    Good one 🙂 🙂 🙂

    Mirek

    P.S. to TC - that article you linked I have read a couple years ago. Do
    not you have something new? 🙂

    The Weston Price site has continuous updates. When somthing is built on
    a solid foundation it never goes out of date.

    A couple of years old does not mean wrong or weak or not relevant. If
    it was right 2 years ago it will still be right today and it will still
    be right in 100 years. If it was wrong 2 years ago it will still be
    wrong today (kinda like gohde).

    Truth, like diamonds, lasts forever.

    TC

  15. IMPORTANT!
    Vegitarians are not to be confused with Vagetarians.

    LassChance~
    5-16-05 202/182/162

  16. In article <[email hidden]>,

    (Lass Chance_2) said:

    IMPORTANT!
    Vegitarians are not to be confused with Vagetarians.

    LassChance~
    5-16-05 202/182/162

    ROFL!!!
    Took me a minute, but I finally got that one!

    Well done! ;-D

    Save a tree, eat a beaver and all that......
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  17. Quoted message said:


    I don't give a rats ass what you do. Vegetarianism is a nutrient
    deficient diet. Period. End of discussion.

    So is an all meat diet. Equally true or equally
    false depending on your perspective.

    The problem isn't vegetarians waxing poetic about
    how they eat. It's vegetarians pressuring others
    to eat that way or putting out propaganda about
    how their way is somehow heathlier. On ASDLC
    we've all heard it before that some other way of
    eating is healthier but many of us are more healthy
    now than we ever were before starting low carb.
    Any claim that assumes that low carb is in any
    way unhealthy is as claim that started based on
    nonsense. Any claim that calls other way of
    eating health is fine but irrelevant to the topic
    of ASDLC.

    It is possible to be healthy eating a vegan diet.
    It is also possible to be healthy eating an all
    meat diet. In both cases, so what? They are
    both far from the center, both away from the core
    of what humans were evolved to eat. Humans are
    evolved to eat a broad spectrum of foods that can
    include either extreme. Eating towards the center
    takes less effort. Eating towards the center
    means eating meat, vegitables and fruit. Eating
    towards the center is the basis of paleo programs,
    is often the way people view low carb and low fat
    plans.

  18. Doug Freyburger said:
    Quoted message said:


    I don't give a rats ass what you do. Vegetarianism is a nutrient
    deficient diet. Period. End of discussion.

    So is an all meat diet. Equally true or equally
    false depending on your perspective.

    I agree 100%. I've never advocated anything so extreme. Although the
    Inuits and Eskimos lived on a nearly all fish diet for about 8 months
    fo the year and were very healthy.

    Quoted message said:


    The problem isn't vegetarians waxing poetic about
    how they eat. It's vegetarians pressuring others
    to eat that way or putting out propaganda about
    how their way is somehow heathlier.

    Bingo. Or they impose their ideas on their children and their childrens
    health.

    On ASDLC

    Quoted message said:

    we've all heard it before that some other way of
    eating is healthier but many of us are more healthy
    now than we ever were before starting low carb.
    Any claim that assumes that low carb is in any
    way unhealthy is as claim that started based on
    nonsense. Any claim that calls other way of
    eating health is fine but irrelevant to the topic
    of ASDLC.

    True.

    Quoted message said:


    It is possible to be healthy eating a vegan diet.

    Possible, but not likely in the real world, unless one really is an
    expert on food and nutrition. Most impressionable teenagers who become
    converts to the touchy-feely save-the-poor-animals aspects of veganism
    haven't got clue one about even basic concepts of nutrition.

    Quoted message said:

    It is also possible to be healthy eating an all
    meat diet. In both cases, so what? They are
    both far from the center, both away from the core
    of what humans were evolved to eat. Humans are
    evolved to eat a broad spectrum of foods that can
    include either extreme. Eating towards the center
    takes less effort. Eating towards the center
    means eating meat, vegitables and fruit. Eating
    towards the center is the basis of paleo programs,
    is often the way people view low carb and low fat
    plans.

    Eating real foods is the key. Real meat and real produce. Food as
    nature presents them, not as marketers and processors and manufacturers
    present them. And soy is not a real food.

    TC

  19. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Quoted message said:

    Most impressionable teenagers who become
    converts to the touchy-feely save-the-poor-animals aspects of veganism
    haven't got clue one about even basic concepts of nutrition.

    Haha, I have an anecdote for that. This friend of my sister's back in
    high school came over for dinner, and my sister warned us ahead of time
    that the girl was a vegetarian. So we made sure we had extra broccoli,
    salad, asparagus, and mashed potatoes, since she wouldn't be eating the
    steak we were having. All she ate were the mashed potatoes, because she
    said she couldn't stand "Anything green." She was pretty fat.

    --
    http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

  20. Luna said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Quoted message said:

    Most impressionable teenagers who become
    converts to the touchy-feely save-the-poor-animals aspects of veganism
    haven't got clue one about even basic concepts of nutrition.

    Haha, I have an anecdote for that. This friend of my sister's back in
    high school came over for dinner, and my sister warned us ahead of time
    that the girl was a vegetarian. So we made sure we had extra broccoli,
    salad, asparagus, and mashed potatoes, since she wouldn't be eating the
    steak we were having. All she ate were the mashed potatoes, because she
    said she couldn't stand "Anything green." She was pretty fat.

    --
    http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

    Yikes. Why does that kind of thing not surprise me?

    TC

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