slimming aids/tablets

harddancedj said:

hi guys

i've just started the atkins diet and just wanted to know if it was possible
to take slimming tablets along with the diet or should i not do it?

I hear amphetamines work really well.

harddancedj said:

i've just started the atkins diet and just wanted to know if it was
possible to take slimming tablets along with the diet or should i
not do it?

(1) Most diet pills are useless placebos.

(2) They're probably not necessary or even useful unless you're really
close to your goal weight.

(3) Even when appropriate, it's very easy to misuse them and cause
great harm to yourself.

So, I say you should not do it. Stick to diet and exercise unless
your doctor tells you otherwise.

Try crystal meth.

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hi guys

i've just started the atkins diet and just wanted to know if it was
possible
to take slimming tablets along with the diet or should i not do it?

harddancedj said:

hi guys

i've just started the atkins diet and just wanted to know if it was possible
to take slimming tablets along with the diet or should i not do it?

It is possible to take slimming aids along with the diet.

It is also possible to take arsenic or other poison along with the diet.

Maybe it is not a good thing to take extra stuff with the diet, just
because you can.

I wouldl suggest that if you had a good sound LOGICAL reason to take
some slimming tablet, you might consider it.

But I didn't say to DO IT.

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harddancedj said:

hi guys

i've just started the atkins diet and just wanted to know if it was possible
to take slimming tablets along with the diet or should i not do it?

What kind of "slimming tablets"?

My Doctor has me on Adderall......

Works fine.
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JC Der Koenig said:

Try crystal meth.

<snort> Dammit JC!
You owe me a monitor! ;-D

You actually are right, but they are horribly addicting and very
damaging to your health.....

I know a 350 lb. woman that lost 40 lbs. in 6 weeks using Crystal Meth.
Totally killed her appetite, but she also lost her job as she was
subject to random drug screens and got caught.
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Om.

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JC Der Koenig said:

Try crystal meth.

<snort> Dammit JC!
You owe me a monitor! ;-D

You actually are right, but they are horribly addicting and very
damaging to your health.....

I know a 350 lb. woman that lost 40 lbs. in 6 weeks using Crystal Meth.
Totally killed her appetite, but she also lost her job as she was
subject to random drug screens and got caught.

The thought of my teeth quickly rotting out pretty much keeps me from going
that way.

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hi guys

i've just started the atkins diet and just wanted to know if it was possible
to take slimming tablets along with the diet or should i not do it?

Atkins tends to be a natural appetite suppressant, so it really isn't
necessary to take anything to speed things up. You don't say what
"slimming tablets" you have in mind. OTC supplements targeting weight
loss are generally considered to be either ineffective or dangerous
(often they are simply diuretics or laxatives). Prescription
medications may or may not help, but more than once some prescribed
medications for weight loss have been shown to cause major medical
problems, including DEATH (phen-fen & Meridia). Why risk it if you
don't need to do so?

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205/134/125
Atkins since 6/14/03
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OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

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JC Der Koenig said:

Try crystal meth.

<snort> Dammit JC!
You owe me a monitor! ;-D

I said amphetamines first.

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You actually are right, but they are horribly addicting and very
damaging to your health.....

I know a 350 lb. woman that lost 40 lbs. in 6 weeks using Crystal Meth.
Totally killed her appetite, but she also lost her job as she was
subject to random drug screens and got caught.
--
Om.

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In article <[email hidden]>,

JC Der Koenig said:

Try crystal meth.

<snort> Dammit JC!
You owe me a monitor! ;-D

You actually are right, but they are horribly addicting and very
damaging to your health.....

I know a 350 lb. woman that lost 40 lbs. in 6 weeks using Crystal Meth.
Totally killed her appetite, but she also lost her job as she was
subject to random drug screens and got caught.

The thought of my teeth quickly rotting out pretty much keeps me from going
that way.

Well, there is always DNP......
(Dinitrophenol)

Too bad it's so toxic. ;-)
It'd be a dream for weight loss if it was safe.
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Om.

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OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

JC Der Koenig said:

Try crystal meth.

<snort> Dammit JC!
You owe me a monitor! ;-D

I said amphetamines first.

True... but I'm already taking those. ;-)
That's what Addarall is.

Crystal Methamphetamine is a totally different animal.
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OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
"JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote:

> Try crystal meth.

<snort> Dammit JC!
You owe me a monitor! ;-D

I said amphetamines first.

True... but I'm already taking those. ;-)
That's what Addarall is.

Crystal Methamphetamine is a totally different animal.

Chemically, they're pretty much the same animal:

http://www.whatmeds.com/meds/adderall.html
The only difference between crystal meth and Adderall is that
Adderrall is in standardized dosages, and the route of administration
is typically oral. Crystal meth can be eaten, smoked, snorted,
skin-popped and mainlined, which can all impart different qualities of
effects.

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OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

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OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
"JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote:

> Try crystal meth.

<snort> Dammit JC!
You owe me a monitor! ;-D

I said amphetamines first.

True... but I'm already taking those. ;-)
That's what Addarall is.

Crystal Methamphetamine is a totally different animal.

Chemically, they're pretty much the same animal:

http://www.whatmeds.com/meds/adderall.html

The only difference between crystal meth and Adderall is that
Adderrall is in standardized dosages, and the route of administration
is typically oral. Crystal meth can be eaten, smoked, snorted,
skin-popped and mainlined, which can all impart different qualities of
effects.

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Om.

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OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

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OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> In article <[email hidden]>,
> "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
> > Try crystal meth.
>
> <snort> Dammit JC!
> You owe me a monitor! ;-D

I said amphetamines first.

True... but I'm already taking those. ;-)
That's what Addarall is.

Crystal Methamphetamine is a totally different animal.

Chemically, they're pretty much the same animal:

http://www.whatmeds.com/meds/adderall.html
The only difference between crystal meth and Adderall is that
Adderrall is in standardized dosages, and the route of administration
is typically oral. Crystal meth can be eaten, smoked, snorted,
skin-popped and mainlined, which can all impart different qualities of
effects.

ok, but just out of curiosity, why is meth' rotting out people's teeth
in record time while adderall has no such (known) side effect?
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OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

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> OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> > In article <[email hidden]>,
> > "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> >
> > > Try crystal meth.
> >
> > <snort> Dammit JC!
> > You owe me a monitor! ;-D
>
> I said amphetamines first.

True... but I'm already taking those. ;-)
That's what Addarall is.

Crystal Methamphetamine is a totally different animal.

Chemically, they're pretty much the same animal:

http://www.whatmeds.com/meds/adderall.html
The only difference between crystal meth and Adderall is that
Adderrall is in standardized dosages, and the route of administration
is typically oral. Crystal meth can be eaten, smoked, snorted,
skin-popped and mainlined, which can all impart different qualities of
effects.

ok, but just out of curiosity, why is meth' rotting out people's teeth
in record time while adderall has no such (known) side effect?

Well, if you took the active ingredient in Adderall, found a way to
concentrate it, and then ingested it in large amounts for weeks and
months at a time at way beyond therapeutic dosages (i.e., the dosages
used to treat ADD/ADHD or narcolepsy/cataplexy), your teeth would
probably rot out as well, among other things.

My understanding is that meth addicts look like [censored] typically
because they're pathetically malnourished, not because of some inherent
property of the drug to rot one's teeth.

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OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> In article <[email hidden]>,
> [email hidden] wrote:
>
> > OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> > > In article <[email hidden]>,
> > > "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Try crystal meth.
> > >
> > > <snort> Dammit JC!
> > > You owe me a monitor! ;-D
> >
> > I said amphetamines first.
>
> True... but I'm already taking those. ;-)
> That's what Addarall is.
>
> Crystal Methamphetamine is a totally different animal.

Chemically, they're pretty much the same animal:

http://www.whatmeds.com/meds/adderall.html
The only difference between crystal meth and Adderall is that
Adderrall is in standardized dosages, and the route of administration
is typically oral. Crystal meth can be eaten, smoked, snorted,
skin-popped and mainlined, which can all impart different qualities of
effects.

ok, but just out of curiosity, why is meth' rotting out people's teeth
in record time while adderall has no such (known) side effect?

Well, if you took the active ingredient in Adderall, found a way to
concentrate it, and then ingested it in large amounts for weeks and
months at a time at way beyond therapeutic dosages (i.e., the dosages
used to treat ADD/ADHD or narcolepsy/cataplexy), your teeth would
probably rot out as well, among other things.

I take it for narcolepsy, and have found 5mg. twice per day to be a
sufficient dose. :-)
I really don't like to feel "stimulated". :-p

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My understanding is that meth addicts look like [censored] typically
because they're pathetically malnourished, not because of some inherent
property of the drug to rot one's teeth.

I thought about it some more and I've read that meth' also tends to make
you thirsty and crave sweets, so rotten teeth would follow drinking a
lot of soft drinks.

I know a couple of people with serious pop addictions and they have
horrible teeth.

Between the ungodly amount of sugar and the carbonic acid......
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> Try crystal meth.

<snort> Dammit JC!
You owe me a monitor! ;-D

You actually are right, but they are horribly addicting and very
damaging to your health.....

I know a 350 lb. woman that lost 40 lbs. in 6 weeks using Crystal Meth.
Totally killed her appetite, but she also lost her job as she was
subject to random drug screens and got caught.

The thought of my teeth quickly rotting out pretty much keeps me from
going
that way.

Well, there is always DNP......
(Dinitrophenol)

Maybe if I lived up north... and it was in the winter... maybe.

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> In article <[email hidden]>,
> "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
>> Try crystal meth.
>
> <snort> Dammit JC!
> You owe me a monitor! ;-D
>
> You actually are right, but they are horribly addicting and very
> damaging to your health.....
>
> I know a 350 lb. woman that lost 40 lbs. in 6 weeks using Crystal Meth.
> Totally killed her appetite, but she also lost her job as she was
> subject to random drug screens and got caught.

The thought of my teeth quickly rotting out pretty much keeps me from
going
that way.

Well, there is always DNP......
(Dinitrophenol)

Maybe if I lived up north... and it was in the winter... maybe.

And you didn't mind long term eye and kidney damage. ;-)

I wish DNP was safe. It's one of the best thermogenics out there......

But then there's Exstacy.......
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> > In article <[email hidden]>,
> > "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> >
> >> Try crystal meth.
> >
> > <snort> Dammit JC!
> > You owe me a monitor! ;-D
> >
> > You actually are right, but they are horribly addicting and very
> > damaging to your health.....
> >
> > I know a 350 lb. woman that lost 40 lbs. in 6 weeks using Crystal
> > Meth.
> > Totally killed her appetite, but she also lost her job as she was
> > subject to random drug screens and got caught.
>
>
> The thought of my teeth quickly rotting out pretty much keeps me from
> going
> that way.
>
>

Well, there is always DNP......
(Dinitrophenol)

Maybe if I lived up north... and it was in the winter... maybe.

And you didn't mind long term eye and kidney damage. ;-)

That hasn't been exactly proven.