Gained five pounds

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(Lass Chance_2) said:

187 today. Shouldnt have surprised me---Ive been sliding down the
slippery slope. It's my mind. I have a long standing, cyclic depression
thing, any way...and the news about my gums, losing a bunch of teeth,
getting a partial plate....kicked up a lot of "stuff". (getting old,
gonna die, no point, any way, my life is over and Im just measuring
Time, who cares if an old toothless broad is fat, life is a disease with
a poor prognosis, we all wither and croak, my best years are behind me
an the rest to come will be a downhill slide toward the Void...I'll die
alone and with luck somebody will discover my mouldering corpse before
my dogs starve..... nothing matters.....you get the idea.

It's my mind. lOL, ive been here before---it aint new territory. The
worst thing about depression is, all this [censored] sounds TRUE when i
hear my mind say it. I sometimes dont even realize Im depressed---it
feels like Ive stumbled into real Truth and any ideas I might have had
previously about life being fun or rewarding or that losing weight
matters were the Lies...and the Truth is, life sucks and everything is a
pointless endeavor with no purpose but to fill the time, which is
dwindling uncontrollably, anyway...

As i read these words, my objective mind knows, "That's the sound of a
depressed mind, blathering doom and gloom." That alone is progress,
believe it or not. To begin to remember that Im in pretty good health,
have no money problems, a paid-for house, some dogs who depend on me and
a few good friends is progress. When Im deep in the Hole, I cant even
remember the good stuff.

So.....Im feeling better enough to be able to grab hold a little,
LOL....and begin the climb back up from the Hole.

Anyway, that's where Ive been the last two, three weeks, but things are
looking up and Im ready to get back on the stick. The "point" is...well,
ME. There may or may not be a "point", universally. I am the "point". I
am the one it matters to.

LassChance~
5-16-05 202/182/162

It's probably mostly water.
My weight can fluctuate 5 lbs. over a couple of days. :-)

Watermelon, celery, herbals, can be naturaly diuretics, or just cut the
sodium and flood with water.

Cheers!
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

I had a gaping hole in my mouth so I got a bridge. Shortly after, I
broke another tooth in the front of my mouth for which I have an
appointment on Saturday. Going through a divorce with 2 kids after 16
years to boot.....still have not had a bad carb for as long as I can
remember. I feel so good that nothing can bother me. Get help if you
need it but do whatever you can to feel good about yourself.

"Lass Chance_2" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

So.....Im feeling better enough to be able to grab hold a little,
LOL....and begin the climb back up from the Hole.

Glad you're on the up.

Nicky.

--
A1c 10.5/5.6/<6 T2 DX 05/2004
1g Metformin, 100ug Thyroxine
95/76/72Kg

Lass Chance_2 said:

187 today. Shouldnt have surprised me---Ive been sliding down the
slippery slope. It's my mind. I have a long standing, cyclic depression
thing, any way...and the news about my gums, losing a bunch of teeth,
getting a partial plate....kicked up a lot of "stuff". (getting old,
gonna die, no point, any way, my life is over and Im just measuring
Time, who cares if an old toothless broad is fat, life is a disease with
a poor prognosis, we all wither and croak, my best years are behind me
an the rest to come will be a downhill slide toward the Void...I'll die
alone and with luck somebody will discover my mouldering corpse before
my dogs starve..... nothing matters.....you get the idea.

It's my mind. lOL, ive been here before---it aint new territory. The
worst thing about depression is, all this [censored] sounds TRUE when i
hear my mind say it. I sometimes dont even realize Im depressed---it
feels like Ive stumbled into real Truth and any ideas I might have had
previously about life being fun or rewarding or that losing weight
matters were the Lies...and the Truth is, life sucks and everything is a
pointless endeavor with no purpose but to fill the time, which is
dwindling uncontrollably, anyway...

As i read these words, my objective mind knows, "That's the sound of a
depressed mind, blathering doom and gloom." That alone is progress,
believe it or not. To begin to remember that Im in pretty good health,
have no money problems, a paid-for house, some dogs who depend on me and
a few good friends is progress. When Im deep in the Hole, I cant even
remember the good stuff.

So.....Im feeling better enough to be able to grab hold a little,
LOL....and begin the climb back up from the Hole.

Anyway, that's where Ive been the last two, three weeks, but things are
looking up and Im ready to get back on the stick. The "point" is...well,
ME. There may or may not be a "point", universally. I am the "point". I
am the one it matters to.

LassChance~
5-16-05 202/182/162

You may be B vitamin deficient as well as C vitamin deficient. B
vitamin deficiency leads to anxiety, depression, and in worse case
scenarios neuropathy.

Try a couple of b vitamin complex, stress formula, early in the day
with food. You will probably feel better within a few days. I did and
it pretty much cured me of my anxiety and depression.

And don't forget your vitamin C. It works well to support the b
vitamins.

TC

"Lass Chance_2" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

187 today. Shouldnt have surprised me---Ive been sliding down the
slippery slope. It's my mind. I have a long standing, cyclic depression
thing, any way...and the news about my gums, losing a bunch of teeth,
getting a partial plate....kicked up a lot of "stuff". (getting old,

I can't remember if you said you take fish oil supplements. It could help,
along with making sure you get enough vitamins and minerals.

--
No Husband Has Ever Been Shot While Doing The Dishes

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[email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

So.....Im feeling better enough to be able to grab hold a little,
LOL....and begin the climb back up from the Hole.

Glad you're feeling better, Lass. I've been there, too, especially as I
had to cope with various physical things. Ever seen the movie "Airplane
2" where Elaine tells Ted that her boyfriend is "falling apart"? The
camera then shows her boyfriend with various body parts literally
falling off of him. I kind of felt like that sometimes. If I were to
stop taking Zoloft, I'd probably feel like that again. It's hard to
deal with yet ANOTHER physical blow. In fact, a fall that hurt my back
back at the end of 1995 was the start of an ongoing depression (DESPITE
the Zoloft) that led to my huge weight gain. It wasn't the inactivity
resulting from the injury -- it was that it was yet another major blow
to me at a time when I had been doing so WELL -- it was like Fate just
would NOT leave me alone, no matter how hard I tried, and I just kind of
gave up on a lot of things. I only started to pull out of it when I
started eating low-carb and realized that I CAN control something and I
can feel CONSIDERABLY better while doing it.

Sounds like you already know that a key aspect in trying to overcome
depression is to focus on what you CAN do.

--
Saffire
205/134/125
Atkins since 6/14/03
Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

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None Given and TC--yes on the fish oil---two caps daily.

OK on the B complex, TC--I havent been, but wlll get some ASAP.

I started on Ester C...man, those are HUGE suckers. They sit in my
stomach feeling like a big rock. LOL...there's gotta be a non -acidic C
that doesnt weigh a pound per pill, for cryin out loud.....

LassChance~
5-16-05 202/182/162

Now would be a great time to take care of all your problems.

Just do it.

--
Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

"Lass Chance_2" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

187 today. Shouldnt have surprised me---Ive been sliding down the
slippery slope. It's my mind. I have a long standing, cyclic depression
thing, any way...and the news about my gums, losing a bunch of teeth,
getting a partial plate....kicked up a lot of "stuff". (getting old,
gonna die, no point, any way, my life is over and Im just measuring
Time, who cares if an old toothless broad is fat, life is a disease with
a poor prognosis, we all wither and croak, my best years are behind me
an the rest to come will be a downhill slide toward the Void...I'll die
alone and with luck somebody will discover my mouldering corpse before
my dogs starve..... nothing matters.....you get the idea.

It's my mind. lOL, ive been here before---it aint new territory. The
worst thing about depression is, all this [censored] sounds TRUE when i
hear my mind say it. I sometimes dont even realize Im depressed---it
feels like Ive stumbled into real Truth and any ideas I might have had
previously about life being fun or rewarding or that losing weight
matters were the Lies...and the Truth is, life sucks and everything is a
pointless endeavor with no purpose but to fill the time, which is
dwindling uncontrollably, anyway...

As i read these words, my objective mind knows, "That's the sound of a
depressed mind, blathering doom and gloom." That alone is progress,
believe it or not. To begin to remember that Im in pretty good health,
have no money problems, a paid-for house, some dogs who depend on me and
a few good friends is progress. When Im deep in the Hole, I cant even
remember the good stuff.

So.....Im feeling better enough to be able to grab hold a little,
LOL....and begin the climb back up from the Hole.

Anyway, that's where Ive been the last two, three weeks, but things are
looking up and Im ready to get back on the stick. The "point" is...well,
ME. There may or may not be a "point", universally. I am the "point". I
am the one it matters to.

LassChance~
5-16-05 202/182/162

"Lass Chance_2" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

187 today. Shouldnt have surprised me---Ive been sliding down the
slippery slope. It's my mind. I have a long standing, cyclic depression
thing, any way...and the news about my gums, losing a bunch of teeth,
getting a partial plate....kicked up a lot of "stuff". (getting old,
gonna die, no point, any way, my life is over and Im just measuring
Time, who cares if an old toothless broad is fat, life is a disease with
a poor prognosis, we all wither and croak, my best years are behind me
an the rest to come will be a downhill slide toward the Void...I'll die
alone and with luck somebody will discover my mouldering corpse before

People like you often find their way to a better outlook when they see a
professional about it.

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Glassman said:

"Lass Chance_2" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

187 today. Shouldnt have surprised me---Ive been sliding down the
slippery slope. It's my mind. I have a long standing, cyclic depression
thing, any way...and the news about my gums, losing a bunch of teeth,
getting a partial plate....kicked up a lot of "stuff". (getting old,
gonna die, no point, any way, my life is over and Im just measuring
Time, who cares if an old toothless broad is fat, life is a disease with
a poor prognosis, we all wither and croak, my best years are behind me
an the rest to come will be a downhill slide toward the Void...I'll die
alone and with luck somebody will discover my mouldering corpse before

People like you often find their way to a better outlook when they see a
professional about it.

That, or she needs somebody to take care of. :-)
I'm lucky that way......
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

Saffire---yep. Couldnt have said it beter, myself.

Thanks for understandng--it feels mighty alone in the Hole..doesn [censored]?

LassChance~
5-16-05 202/182/162

"just do it."~ JC

good plan. Life is....just a pair of Nikes.
The Good Guys Always Win...Every Day is a Gift....Look for the Silver
Lining....Yes, Virginia, there IS a Santa Claus....your check is in the
mail.

LassChance~
5-16-05 202/182/162

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Glassman said:

"Lass Chance_2" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

187 today. Shouldnt have surprised me---Ive been sliding down the
slippery slope. It's my mind. I have a long standing, cyclic depression
thing, any way...and the news about my gums, losing a bunch of teeth,
getting a partial plate....kicked up a lot of "stuff". (getting old,
gonna die, no point, any way, my life is over and Im just measuring
Time, who cares if an old toothless broad is fat, life is a disease with
a poor prognosis, we all wither and croak, my best years are behind me
an the rest to come will be a downhill slide toward the Void...I'll die
alone and with luck somebody will discover my mouldering corpse before

People like you often find their way to a better outlook when they see a
professional about it.

I didn't. I was really good at rationalizing my depression, because
after all, if you're looking for it, there is plenty of evidence to
support the attitude of "Life sucks, then you die." What got me out of
the hole was just living anyway, even if I didn't feel like it. Waiting
around to get motivated to do something with my life just kept me stuck,
so I decided on a plan of "do it anyway." I started by just going
through the motions. I got a job, started going out with friends, even
though I'd really rather have stayed on the couch or in bed. I just
pretended to care about stuff. There was this constant nagging voice
saying "What's the point? This is all stupid" and I'd try my best to
just turn off those feelings and get out of bed anyway, take a shower
anyway, get dressed, go to work, etc. I was like a zombie, but at least
I was moving. Gradually, I started to feel better, and I realized the
best cure for my particular depression was action. Just having
something to focus on, some goals to work towards, kept me from focusing
so much on how I felt at any given moment. I'm still introspective, but
now it's more like an occasional check up, a quick "Hey, how am I? Ok.
Now I got stuff to do."

--
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

Luna gets it--Glassman assumes "getting help" is new news or something.

Trust me,Glassman....been there,done that. lots. The psychiatric system
is largely a sham. Drugs in the form of antidepressants is all they
have to offer---and Ive been taking Prozac for,oh...20 years. It keeps
the lows from beig AS low, but they call it 'cyclic depression" for a
reason. It comes....and goes....and the events of life have little to
do with either one.

You learn to keep putting one foot in front of the other untiol it
passes---just like Luna descibed.

Re: Gained five pounds

Group: alt.support.diet.low-carb Date: Wed, Aug 17, 2005, 3:03pm (EDT+4)
From: [email hidden] (Luna)
In article <[email hidden]>, "Glassman"
<[email hidden]> wrote:
"Lass Chance_2" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
187 today. Shouldnt have surprised me---Ive been sliding down the
slippery slope. It's my mind. I have a long standing, cyclic depression
thing, any way...and the news about my gums, losing a bunch of teeth,
getting a partial plate....kicked up a lot of "stuff". (getting old,
gonna die, no point, any way, my life is over and Im just measuring
Time, who cares if an old toothless broad is fat, life is a disease with
a poor prognosis, we all wither and croak, my best years are behind me
an the rest to come will be a downhill slide toward the Void...I'll die
alone and with luck somebody will discover my mouldering corpse before
    People like you often find their way to a better outlook
when they see a professional about it.
I didn't. I was really good at rationalizing my depression, because
after all, if you're looking for it, there is plenty of evidence to
support the attitude of "Life sucks, then you die." What got me out of
the hole was just living anyway, even if I didn't feel like it. Waiting
around to get motivated to do something with my life just kept me stuck,
so I decided on a plan of "do it anyway." I started by just going
through the motions. I got a job, started going out with friends, even
though I'd really rather have stayed on the couch or in bed. I just
pretended to care about stuff. There was this constant nagging voice
saying "What's the point? This is all stupid" and I'd try my best to
just turn off those feelings and get out of bed anyway, take a shower
anyway, get dressed, go to work, etc. I was like a zombie, but at least
I was moving. Gradually, I started to feel better, and I realized the
best cure for my particular depression was action. Just having something
to focus on, some goals to work towards, kept me from focusing so much
on how I felt at any given moment. I'm still introspective, but now it's
more like an occasional check up, a quick "Hey, how am I? Ok. Now I got
stuff to do."
--
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

LassChance~
5-16-05 202/182/162

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In article <[email hidden]>, LassChance_
[email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

Saffire---yep. Couldnt have said it beter, myself.

Thanks for understandng--it feels mighty alone in the Hole..doesn [censored]?

It certainly can -- I used to describe it as being stuck in a well --
you can see the sky above you, but you can't GET to it.

--
Saffire
205/134/125
Atkins since 6/14/03
Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

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"Lass Chance_2" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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None Given and TC--yes on the fish oil---two caps daily.

OK on the B complex, TC--I havent been, but wlll get some ASAP.

I started on Ester C...man, those are HUGE suckers. They sit in my
stomach feeling like a big rock. LOL...there's gotta be a non -acidic C
that doesnt weigh a pound per pill, for cryin out loud.....

Now makes a calcium ascorbate powder, mix it into something.

--
No Husband Has Ever Been Shot While Doing The Dishes

Saffire said:

In article <[email hidden]>, LassChance_
[email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

Saffire---yep. Couldnt have said it beter, myself.

Thanks for understandng--it feels mighty alone in the Hole..doesn [censored]?

It certainly can -- I used to describe it as being stuck in a well --
you can see the sky above you, but you can't GET to it.

I have read that a number of people, in this newsgroups, while in a
state of depression ate food as comfort.

I was just wondering how many are like me.

I got fat because I loved to eat good food,and love to drink good wine
and whiskey. Hell I even like bad wine and whiskey.

I enjoy sitting with other people and swapping lies and eating pizza.

Who else in this group got fat just by enjoying life.

No one,or thing, but my own doing, got me fat.

Pan Ohco

Pan Ohco said:

Saffire said:

In article <[email hidden]>, LassChance_
[email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

Saffire---yep. Couldnt have said it beter, myself.

Thanks for understandng--it feels mighty alone in the Hole..doesn [censored]?

It certainly can -- I used to describe it as being stuck in a well --
you can see the sky above you, but you can't GET to it.

I have read that a number of people, in this newsgroups, while in a
state of depression ate food as comfort.

I was just wondering how many are like me.

I got fat because I loved to eat good food,and love to drink good wine
and whiskey. Hell I even like bad wine and whiskey.

I enjoy sitting with other people and swapping lies and eating pizza.

Who else in this group got fat just by enjoying life.

No one,or thing, but my own doing, got me fat.

Pan Ohco

People who eat when they're depressed (or in my case, simply
stressed) choose to eat like pigs as a coping mechanism. You chose to
eat like a pig because you consider it some sort of recreational
activity. In both cases, it's a choice.

I got fat slowly just by eating a little more than I burned up. I love
food, too, but gave up drinking a few years ago, still ate enough to slowly
gain. I ate some junk food but not a lot, always had at least one good
balanced meal a day and more likely two.

In news:[email hidden],
Pan Ohco <[email hidden]> stated
|
| I have read that a number of people, in this newsgroups, while in a
| state of depression ate food as comfort.
|
| I was just wondering how many are like me.
|
| I got fat because I loved to eat good food,and love to drink good wine
| and whiskey. Hell I even like bad wine and whiskey.
|
| I enjoy sitting with other people and swapping lies and eating pizza.
|
| Who else in this group got fat just by enjoying life.
|
| No one,or thing, but my own doing, got me fat.
|
| Pan Ohco