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  1. This lady does seem to me to have the highest credentials despite the
    "anti-alt posting" paid lackeys here on this newsgroup.

    http://www.whas.com.au/panscandal.php

    The PAN Scandal,
    It's time for a Vitamin Debate on National Television
    From Dr Sandra Cabot

    Since the Pan Labs scandal has grabbed the headlines I have watched as the
    Complementary Health Care industry has been used as the scapegoat for
    corporate greed and dishonesty.

    I would like to have my say as a medical doctor who has been researching and
    using nutritional medicine for thirty years. I have had my share of
    criticism as the author of the best selling book "The Liver Cleansing Diet"
    but I always believed that healthy debate and disagreement was good for
    stimulating lateral thought and forging public opinion. However I must say
    that the way in which the whole ideology of the complementary health care
    industry has been targeted in the wake of the Pan debacle is simply not
    cricket!

    Experts in the field of nutritional medicine have not been given a say, or
    really even "a look in" to the defamatory game. The headlines and editorial
    have been monopolized by business people, stuffy Professors of conventional
    medicine, politicians and consumer watchdogs.

    I watched Dr Ian Brighthope who is president of the Complementary Health
    Care Council and Professor Alistair MacLennan giving their opinions on
    National morning television and thought to myself "wow this is unfair!" Dr
    Ian Brighthope was interviewed first and was very nice, as he tried to
    defend the value of nutritional medicine and supplements. Unfortunately he
    was interviewed first and did not realise that his opponent had saved all
    his venom for the last say. Professor MacLennan contends that alternative
    medicine has the potential to cause serious harm. MacLennan said that the
    Pan affair "has given an opportunity for people to say - we're not really
    having to debate how much snake is in the snake oil, or whether there is
    goanna contaminating the snake oil. We are really having to debate - should
    you be on snake oil at all? ; and is this snake oil doing you any good, or,
    more of a worry, is this snake oil doing you harm?"

    I think MacLennan's comments are ridiculously irrelevant, as what does snake
    oil have to do with the sub-standard manufacture of an anti-histamine drug.
    Well it seems that fanatics will take any opportunity to get on their hobby
    horse. MacLennan is a Professor of Obstetrics and Gynaecology and has
    probably not been challenged with trying to help chronically ill people who
    have been disappointed with drug orientated medicine. Perhaps he should keep
    his know all opinion to the parts of the anatomy in which he is an expert.

    John Dwyer's attempts to discredit my Liver Cleansing Diet Book unwittingly
    helped make my book very famous.

    Of course there would be no show without Professor John Dwyer who has
    consistently rubbished complementary medicine for many years, and has called
    the practice of nutritional medicine anti-science, dangerous and misleading.
    John Dwyer's attempts to discredit my Liver Cleansing Diet Book unwittingly
    helped make my book very famous. He would usually wait till I was overseas
    to start the anti-Dr Cabot campaign and when I called for a debate, he was
    no where to be seen.

    Now I was surprised when Bob Carr had his say. Carr thinks the Pan affair
    has given opportunity to assess "some of the exploitation of gullible
    people" that took place under the guise of alternative therapy and
    complementary medicine, suggesting some therapies were not much better than
    those sold by the medicine-man hucksters of the 19th century". He inferred
    that we have more snake oil sales men now, than we did in the medieval ages!
    Well Bob have you been challenged with thousands of unwell people who have
    found that conventional drugs made them sicker? Where is your experience and
    scientific background that enable you to be an expert on the ethical and
    scientific standards of Complementary Medicine?

    The Australian Consumer Association was represented in the scandal by Mr.
    Martyn Goddard. Mr. Goddard must have a lot of experience in clinical
    medicine as he seems to believe that he must protect the people from the
    charlatans and sales men who are trying to sell them unproven remedies that
    are akin to snake oil.

    Wow we have so much snake oil around these days perhaps we should do a
    clinical trial on it - it just may have the healthy essential fatty acids to
    boost your brain power. Goddard states that complementary medicines should
    not be released onto the market unless they have undergone the same rigorous
    scientific scrutiny that is applied to new drugs to prove that they are safe
    and effective. Well it would have been good if clinical trials and tests had
    detected the toxicity of the cholesterol lowering drug called Lipobay before
    its release into a market of unsuspecting guinea pigs. Lipobay was subject
    to a world-wide withdrawal (except for Japan), because it caused a spate of
    serious muscle diseases that resulted in death in a significant number of
    people who were taking it.

    And then there is the drug called Rezeulin that was released onto the market
    several years ago, as a new treatment for diabetics. Pity that it caused
    acute liver breakdown and death in so many people, that adverts were posted
    in all American newspapers to tell consumers to stop taking it immediately.
    Yes it would be nice if drug companies had tests and trials that were
    infallible that could be used for drugs and nutritional supplements.

    And then you must remember the HRT scandal that achieved media notoriety in
    July 2002 and created a bomb shell in conventional medicine. This was
    because the American Women's Health Initiative (WHI) Study found that the
    advice doctors and drug companies had been giving women for 20 years about
    HRT was no longer strictly correct. In contrast to what women had been
    promised, conventional HRT did not protect them from cardiovascular disease,
    and indeed increased the risk of heart attacks, strokes and blood clots. Yes
    it was a surprise to see how quickly over 20 years of clinical research by
    drug companies could be turned on its head. The legal fraternity is now
    cautioning doctors to get their patients to sign consent forms, which detail
    the dangers of HRT before they can receive a prescription. It seems that
    nothing is perfectly safe to take any more!

    So now we have a "squeaky clean" pharmaceutical and medical industry calling
    the supporters of nutritional medicine snake oil salesmen - well it's hardly
    cricket! I think its time for a decent match of rugby league football where
    the brave opponents can have a good fight. It's time for a real rough game -
    cricket is just too nice!

    Now who should be on the opposing teams?
    1. Professors and medical doctors who do not approve of the use of
    supplements
    2. Medical doctors and professors who have been using nutritional medicine
    for years
    Yes it could be the fossils versus the snakes - it would be heated,
    passionate, and venomous and it would be fun - we know Australians are a
    sporting nation, so let the public decide.

    Facts to discuss
    The Pan debacle arose because of the substandard manufacturing of a
    "Travacalm" drug (anti-histamine) and not a nutritional supplement.

    Why was the substandard manufacturing of an anti-histamine drug used as
    weapon against the whole ideology of nutritional & herbal medicine?

    People die regularly because of side effects from drugs and rarely (if
    ever) from nutritional & herbal supplements.

    Contrary to what the opponents say about the validity of nutritional and
    herbal medicine, there is a huge volume & data base of clinical research
    into the efficacy of these substances.

    Corporate greed and dishonesty should not be able to use complementary
    medicine as a scapegoat for its sins.

    Many small businesses may become bankrupt because the whole CHC industry
    has been tarred with the same brush as Pan labs - there are many good
    Australian manufacturers of nutritional supplements that cannot be compared
    to Pan. Why should the small players (retailers & distributors) be made to
    pay for the corruption and greed of a minority? Where is corporate justice
    here? -

    Company and individuals that commit offences such as insider trading,
    insolvency trading, embezzlement etc, are now being scrutinized - well so
    should pill manufacturers that put peoples lives at risk.

    Medicine that is based wholly upon the use of "proven" pharmaceutical drugs
    does not treat the causes of disease- it is focused on treating the symptoms
    The Australian public wants nutritional medicine - they have proven this by
    spending 3 to 4 times as much money on supplements, than they do on drugs -
    obviously this is because they are not fully satisfied with conventional
    and/or drug orientated medicine.

    Why are more and more doctors doing courses in complementary and
    nutritional medicine? The courses offered by the Australian College of
    Nutritional & Environmental medicine are extremely popular with doctors who
    are interested in learning how to prescribe nutritional supplements.

    Important Announcement
    Dr Sandra Cabot's Health Formulations including the LivatoneT range, are NOT
    manufactured by PAN Pharmaceuticals Ltd.

    Our products are made by a TGA approved laboratory in Australia and our
    manufacturing facility operates to and maintains the highest standards.

    We are happy to reassure you that our products are of the highest quality.

    Dr Sandra Cabot
    April 28, 2003

  2. "rb" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    This lady does seem to me to have the highest credentials despite the
    "anti-alt posting" paid lackeys here on this newsgroup.

    Hello, again, rubber brain.

    Can you post some proof that some people get paid? If so, please let me know
    where to sign up.

    I imagine getting paid for doing what is so otherwise enjoyable.

  3. They are all jealous and have to discredit her because she is a top medical
    person turned to the real medical truth method. This blows away their
    credibility of arguments.

    "rb" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    This lady does seem to me to have the highest credentials despite the
    "anti-alt posting" paid lackeys here on this newsgroup.

    http://www.whas.com.au/panscandal.php

    The PAN Scandal,
    It's time for a Vitamin Debate on National Television
    From Dr Sandra Cabot

    Since the Pan Labs scandal has grabbed the headlines I have watched as the
    Complementary Health Care industry has been used as the scapegoat for
    corporate greed and dishonesty.

    I would like to have my say as a medical doctor who has been researching


    and

    Quoted message said:

    using nutritional medicine for thirty years. I have had my share of
    criticism as the author of the best selling book "The Liver Cleansing


    Diet"

    Quoted message said:

    but I always believed that healthy debate and disagreement was good for
    stimulating lateral thought and forging public opinion. However I must say
    that the way in which the whole ideology of the complementary health care
    industry has been targeted in the wake of the Pan debacle is simply not
    cricket!

    Experts in the field of nutritional medicine have not been given a say, or
    really even "a look in" to the defamatory game. The headlines and


    editorial

    Quoted message said:

    have been monopolized by business people, stuffy Professors of


    conventional

    Quoted message said:

    medicine, politicians and consumer watchdogs.

    I watched Dr Ian Brighthope who is president of the Complementary Health
    Care Council and Professor Alistair MacLennan giving their opinions on
    National morning television and thought to myself "wow this is unfair!" Dr
    Ian Brighthope was interviewed first and was very nice, as he tried to
    defend the value of nutritional medicine and supplements. Unfortunately he
    was interviewed first and did not realise that his opponent had saved all
    his venom for the last say. Professor MacLennan contends that alternative
    medicine has the potential to cause serious harm. MacLennan said that the
    Pan affair "has given an opportunity for people to say - we're not really
    having to debate how much snake is in the snake oil, or whether there is
    goanna contaminating the snake oil. We are really having to debate -


    should

    Quoted message said:

    you be on snake oil at all? ; and is this snake oil doing you any good,


    or,

    Quoted message said:

    more of a worry, is this snake oil doing you harm?"

    I think MacLennan's comments are ridiculously irrelevant, as what does


    snake

    Quoted message said:

    oil have to do with the sub-standard manufacture of an anti-histamine


    drug.

    Quoted message said:

    Well it seems that fanatics will take any opportunity to get on their


    hobby

    Quoted message said:

    horse. MacLennan is a Professor of Obstetrics and Gynaecology and has
    probably not been challenged with trying to help chronically ill people


    who

    Quoted message said:

    have been disappointed with drug orientated medicine. Perhaps he should


    keep

    Quoted message said:

    his know all opinion to the parts of the anatomy in which he is an expert.

    John Dwyer's attempts to discredit my Liver Cleansing Diet Book


    unwittingly

    Quoted message said:

    helped make my book very famous.

    Of course there would be no show without Professor John Dwyer who has
    consistently rubbished complementary medicine for many years, and has


    called

    Quoted message said:

    the practice of nutritional medicine anti-science, dangerous and


    misleading.

    Quoted message said:

    John Dwyer's attempts to discredit my Liver Cleansing Diet Book


    unwittingly

    Quoted message said:

    helped make my book very famous. He would usually wait till I was overseas
    to start the anti-Dr Cabot campaign and when I called for a debate, he was
    no where to be seen.

    Now I was surprised when Bob Carr had his say. Carr thinks the Pan affair
    has given opportunity to assess "some of the exploitation of gullible
    people" that took place under the guise of alternative therapy and
    complementary medicine, suggesting some therapies were not much better


    than

    Quoted message said:

    those sold by the medicine-man hucksters of the 19th century". He inferred
    that we have more snake oil sales men now, than we did in the medieval


    ages!

    Quoted message said:

    Well Bob have you been challenged with thousands of unwell people who have
    found that conventional drugs made them sicker? Where is your experience


    and

    Quoted message said:

    scientific background that enable you to be an expert on the ethical and
    scientific standards of Complementary Medicine?

    The Australian Consumer Association was represented in the scandal by Mr.
    Martyn Goddard. Mr. Goddard must have a lot of experience in clinical
    medicine as he seems to believe that he must protect the people from the
    charlatans and sales men who are trying to sell them unproven remedies


    that

    Quoted message said:

    are akin to snake oil.

    Wow we have so much snake oil around these days perhaps we should do a
    clinical trial on it - it just may have the healthy essential fatty acids


    to

    Quoted message said:

    boost your brain power. Goddard states that complementary medicines should
    not be released onto the market unless they have undergone the same


    rigorous

    Quoted message said:

    scientific scrutiny that is applied to new drugs to prove that they are


    safe

    Quoted message said:

    and effective. Well it would have been good if clinical trials and tests


    had

    Quoted message said:

    detected the toxicity of the cholesterol lowering drug called Lipobay


    before

    Quoted message said:

    its release into a market of unsuspecting guinea pigs. Lipobay was subject
    to a world-wide withdrawal (except for Japan), because it caused a spate


    of

    Quoted message said:

    serious muscle diseases that resulted in death in a significant number of
    people who were taking it.

    And then there is the drug called Rezeulin that was released onto the


    market

    Quoted message said:

    several years ago, as a new treatment for diabetics. Pity that it caused
    acute liver breakdown and death in so many people, that adverts were


    posted

    Quoted message said:

    in all American newspapers to tell consumers to stop taking it


    immediately.

    Quoted message said:

    Yes it would be nice if drug companies had tests and trials that were
    infallible that could be used for drugs and nutritional supplements.

    And then you must remember the HRT scandal that achieved media notoriety


    in

    Quoted message said:

    July 2002 and created a bomb shell in conventional medicine. This was
    because the American Women's Health Initiative (WHI) Study found that the
    advice doctors and drug companies had been giving women for 20 years about
    HRT was no longer strictly correct. In contrast to what women had been
    promised, conventional HRT did not protect them from cardiovascular


    disease,

    Quoted message said:

    and indeed increased the risk of heart attacks, strokes and blood clots.


    Yes

    Quoted message said:

    it was a surprise to see how quickly over 20 years of clinical research by
    drug companies could be turned on its head. The legal fraternity is now
    cautioning doctors to get their patients to sign consent forms, which


    detail

    Quoted message said:

    the dangers of HRT before they can receive a prescription. It seems that
    nothing is perfectly safe to take any more!

    So now we have a "squeaky clean" pharmaceutical and medical industry


    calling

    Quoted message said:

    the supporters of nutritional medicine snake oil salesmen - well it's


    hardly

    Quoted message said:

    cricket! I think its time for a decent match of rugby league football


    where

    Quoted message said:

    the brave opponents can have a good fight. It's time for a real rough


    game -

    Quoted message said:

    cricket is just too nice!

    Now who should be on the opposing teams?
    1. Professors and medical doctors who do not approve of the use of
    supplements
    2. Medical doctors and professors who have been using nutritional medicine
    for years
    Yes it could be the fossils versus the snakes - it would be heated,
    passionate, and venomous and it would be fun - we know Australians are a
    sporting nation, so let the public decide.

    Facts to discuss
    The Pan debacle arose because of the substandard manufacturing of a
    "Travacalm" drug (anti-histamine) and not a nutritional supplement.

    Why was the substandard manufacturing of an anti-histamine drug used as
    weapon against the whole ideology of nutritional & herbal medicine?

    People die regularly because of side effects from drugs and rarely (if
    ever) from nutritional & herbal supplements.

    Contrary to what the opponents say about the validity of nutritional and
    herbal medicine, there is a huge volume & data base of clinical research
    into the efficacy of these substances.

    Corporate greed and dishonesty should not be able to use complementary
    medicine as a scapegoat for its sins.

    Many small businesses may become bankrupt because the whole CHC industry
    has been tarred with the same brush as Pan labs - there are many good
    Australian manufacturers of nutritional supplements that cannot be


    compared

    Quoted message said:

    to Pan. Why should the small players (retailers & distributors) be made to
    pay for the corruption and greed of a minority? Where is corporate justice
    here? -

    Company and individuals that commit offences such as insider trading,
    insolvency trading, embezzlement etc, are now being scrutinized - well so
    should pill manufacturers that put peoples lives at risk.

    Medicine that is based wholly upon the use of "proven" pharmaceutical


    drugs

    Quoted message said:

    does not treat the causes of disease- it is focused on treating the


    symptoms

    Quoted message said:

    The Australian public wants nutritional medicine - they have proven this


    by

    Quoted message said:

    spending 3 to 4 times as much money on supplements, than they do on


    drugs -

    Quoted message said:

    obviously this is because they are not fully satisfied with conventional
    and/or drug orientated medicine.

    Why are more and more doctors doing courses in complementary and
    nutritional medicine? The courses offered by the Australian College of
    Nutritional & Environmental medicine are extremely popular with doctors


    who

    Quoted message said:

    are interested in learning how to prescribe nutritional supplements.

    Important Announcement
    Dr Sandra Cabot's Health Formulations including the LivatoneT range, are


    NOT

    Quoted message said:

    manufactured by PAN Pharmaceuticals Ltd.

    Our products are made by a TGA approved laboratory in Australia and our
    manufacturing facility operates to and maintains the highest standards.

    We are happy to reassure you that our products are of the highest quality.

    Dr Sandra Cabot
    April 28, 2003

  4. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Dr. Sandra Cabot
    From: "Gymmy Bob" [email hidden]
    Date: 3/4/2004 5:57 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    They are all jealous and have to discredit her because she is a top medical
    person turned to the real medical truth method. This blows away their
    credibility of arguments.

    "she" is actually a non specialist calling herself a "liver doc" who is not
    licensed to practice....

    this would make "real" professionals jealous why again??

    her webpicture is so unprofessional as to be an insult to those who ARE
    professional...

    Quoted message said:

    This blows away their
    credibility of arguments.

    say again??
    hawki.....

  5. "Mark Probert-March 4, 2004" <Mark [email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    "rb" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    This lady does seem to me to have the highest credentials despite the
    "anti-alt posting" paid lackeys here on this newsgroup.

    Hello, again, rubber brain.

    Can you post some proof that some people get paid? If so, please let me know
    where to sign up.

    I imagine getting paid for doing what is so otherwise enjoyable.

    I get paid for practicing real medicine. I don't get paid for posting
    to MHA, but I feel that I get intangible benefits out of that
    particular pursuit:

    1) I have the opportunity to educate and debate,
    2) I get to poke my thumb in the eye of people who just annoy the
    [censored] out of me.

    RB might like to tackle this question: Just where did "Dr." Cabot get
    her medical degree, since the University of South Australia (her
    supposed alma mater) doesn't even offer one?

    Mark, MD (a real doctor, with a real medical degree and real board
    certification)

  6. It appears Dr Cabot is quite busy.

    (organized medicine would like to shut her up??)

    http://www.whas.com.au/seminars.php

    Dr Cabot's Seminar Schedule in 2004
    February 2004
    Saturday 14th Expo Dr Cabot will be speaking at the International Womin's
    Symposium, Auckland Town Hall..

    Contact [email hidden] for more details

    Sunday 15th Expo New Spirit Festival, New Zealand.

    Contact [email hidden] for more details
    Wednesday 25th Venue: Orange Ex-Services Club - 7.30 pm Tickets $20
    Ticket Outlets:

    Angus & Robertson
    Michael Mullins - Chemist
    Canobolis Pure Health - Orange Arcade
    Orange Ex-Services Club
    Contact [email hidden] for more details
    Saturday 28th Expo Dr Cabot will be appearing at The Vitality Show, Townsville
    Entertainment & Convention Centre

    Contact 07 4771 5755 for more details or visit www.vitalityshow.com.au

    Sunday 29th Expo Dr Cabot will be appearing at The Vitality Show, Townsville
    Entertainment & Convention Centre

    Contact 07 4771 5755 for more details or visit www.vitalityshow.com.au
    March 2004
    24th
    From Midday Onwards Go Vita Hervey Bay QLD
    Shop 7 Urangan Central Shopping Centre
    Urangan QLD 4655

    Contact Michael 0422 413 439

    31st Venue: Shellharbour Workers Club. 7.30 pm

    Ticket Outlets:

    Go Vita Health Food Store - Shellharbour Square
    Go Vita Health Food Store - Kiama
    Angus & Robertson Book World - Shellharbour
    Shellharbour Workers' Club
    Contact [email hidden] for more details

    April 2004
    28th Venue: Tamworth

    Tickets: $20.00 through The Honey Pot Health Food Store (White Street
    Tamworth).

    Contact [email hidden] for more details

    May 2004
    4th Venue: Clovercrest Baptist Church
    2 Famechon Crescent
    Modbury North

    Tickets: $20.00

    Contact 02 4655 8855 for more details
    5th Venue: Flinders University
    The Matthew Flinders Theatre
    Adelaide

    Click here for venue info

    Tickets: $20.00

    Contact 02 4655 8855 for more details

    25th
    7pm Venue: Caboolture

    Book through Caboolture Central Library

    Contact: [email hidden]

    26th Venue: ALBURY Venue to be advised by end of next week

    Contact [email hidden] for more details

    June 2004
    11th-14th Venue: Mind Body Spirit Festival
    Melbourne Exhibition Centre,
    2 Clarendon Street,
    Southbank, Melbourne, Australia

    Further Information

    23rd Venue: COFFS HARBOUR

    Contact [email hidden] for more details

    July 2004
    28th Venue: WAGGA WAGGA

    Contact [email hidden] for more details

    August 2004
    Venue: PERTH

    Contact [email hidden] for more details

    September 2004
    29th Venue: DUBBO (replaces Condobolin/Parkes/Forbes)

    Contact [email hidden] for more details

    October 2004
    26th Venue: QUEANBEYAN

    Contact [email hidden] for more details

    November 2004
    24th Venue: BALLINA

    Contact [email hidden] for more details

    Watch this space for updates

    Sandra is an expert in women’s hormonal problems and can show you how to
    overcome premenstrual syndrome menopausal symptoms, poor libido, postnatal
    depression, acne, excessive body hair and hormonal headaches. Sandra can
    explain in simple terms the use of natural hormones such as progesterone, DHEA,
    Estrogen and testosterone.

    She will explain how many such treatments can be tailor made and refined for
    the individual woman.You will also learn about herbs and foods that contain
    natural plant estrogens called phytosterols. You will be amazed at the powerful
    effect that hormones have in our bodies.

    Doctor Sandra Cabot is also a naturopath and will explain the use of
    nutritional supplements for a wide range of common health problems such as
    endometriosis, chronic fatigue, poor immune function and common pain syndromes
    such as headaches, arthritis and fibromyalgia.

    Sandra is a doctor who has found that after more than 20 years of medical
    practice the most powerful healing tool for women is diet. She will give you
    the dietary tools to rejuvenate your tired body and slow down the ageing
    process. You will learn how to improve the function of liver, which is the most
    important organ of metabolism.

    If you are struggling with weight problems and don’t know why, Sandra will
    show you the solution as she has helped thousands of women with weight and
    hormonal problems.

    A healthy liver is the key to weight control and will enable you to lose weight
    easily without counting calories or weighing every morsel of food.

    Another subject that will fascinate you is that of the four body types and
    learning which body type you are. Each body type has different hormonal and
    metabolic characteristics that determine where weight gain will occur.

    Learn which diet suits your body type and can help to balance your hormones.
    There will be plenty of time to talk to Sandra on a personal level and have
    your questions answered.

    Dr. Cabot may be able to come to your city, If you are interested in organising
    a seminar, drop us an e-mail. Financial incentives and fund raising
    possibilities apply.

    ==

    http://www.whas.com.au/index.php

    NEW Sandra Cabot Broadway Healthcare Clinic
          Opened 2nd September on Broadway in Sydney

    The Broadway Health Centre has 2 separate consulting rooms so 2 doctors or one
    doctor and a weight loss consultant can work simultaneously. There is a
    Compounding Pharmacy at the clinic which will make up natural HRT scripts on
    the spot if the patient so desires. The pharmacy like the clinic is open 7 days
    a week which is fantastic for busy patients or people traveling from far away.
    Call today and make a booking now.

    The Broadway Health Centre is situated at Shop M 103 & 104, 1-21 Bay Street,
    Broadway, 2009. NSW Â

    Jan

  7. "Gymmy Bob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    They are all jealous and have to discredit her because she is a top


    medical

    Quoted message said:

    person turned to the real medical truth method. This blows away their
    credibility of arguments.


    ============================
    Excuse me, but if the stated University doesn't give such a degree, she is
    lying. If she is lying about her degree what else may she be lying about?

    Kim

  8. "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    It appears Dr Cabot is quite busy.

    So is the grocery sacker where I shop. Guess what, he doesn't have a MD
    either.

    And *your* point was??

    carabelli

  9. (Jan) said:

    It appears Dr Cabot is quite

    <snip>

    a liar.

    Aloha,

    Rich
    -------------------------------------------------
    -------------------------------------------------

    The best defense to logic is ignorance

  10. On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 23:11:31 -0600, "Kim" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    "Gymmy Bob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    They are all jealous and have to discredit her because she is a top


    medical

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    person turned to the real medical truth method. This blows away their
    credibility of arguments.


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    Excuse me, but if the stated University doesn't give such a degree, she is
    lying. If she is lying about her degree what else may she be lying about?

    You don't understand Kim. Alternative practitioners are allowed to
    lie. CAbot could say she is an MD. Hulda Clark can say she has the
    cure for all cancers.

    But you are quite correct that her credibility is very suspect. That
    is why I try to demonstrate the lies of some people who post here. You
    cannot believe those who repeatedly lie. And the liars don't care
    about other liars as long as the lies advance their agenda.

    Aloha,

    rich

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    Kim

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    The best defense to logic is ignorance


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    The best defense to logic is ignorance

    and you're the living proof of that.

  12. Gymmy, that lady is top flight in every way and they know it. but what can
    we expect of them? They are paid to do this(debunk non conventional
    medicine). Paid shills.....that's what they are.

    "Gymmy Bob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    They are all jealous and have to discredit her because she is a top


    medical

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    person turned to the real medical truth method. This blows away their
    credibility of arguments.

    "rb" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    This lady does seem to me to have the highest credentials despite the
    "anti-alt posting" paid lackeys here on this newsgroup.

    http://www.whas.com.au/panscandal.php

    The PAN Scandal,
    It's time for a Vitamin Debate on National Television
    From Dr Sandra Cabot

    Since the Pan Labs scandal has grabbed the headlines I have watched as


    the

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    Complementary Health Care industry has been used as the scapegoat for
    corporate greed and dishonesty.

    I would like to have my say as a medical doctor who has been researching


    and

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    using nutritional medicine for thirty years. I have had my share of
    criticism as the author of the best selling book "The Liver Cleansing


    Diet"

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    but I always believed that healthy debate and disagreement was good for
    stimulating lateral thought and forging public opinion. However I must


    say

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    that the way in which the whole ideology of the complementary health


    care

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    industry has been targeted in the wake of the Pan debacle is simply not
    cricket!

    Experts in the field of nutritional medicine have not been given a say,


    or

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    really even "a look in" to the defamatory game. The headlines and


    editorial

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    have been monopolized by business people, stuffy Professors of


    conventional

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    medicine, politicians and consumer watchdogs.

    I watched Dr Ian Brighthope who is president of the Complementary Health
    Care Council and Professor Alistair MacLennan giving their opinions on
    National morning television and thought to myself "wow this is unfair!"


    Dr

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    Ian Brighthope was interviewed first and was very nice, as he tried to
    defend the value of nutritional medicine and supplements. Unfortunately


    he

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    was interviewed first and did not realise that his opponent had saved


    all

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    his venom for the last say. Professor MacLennan contends that


    alternative

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    medicine has the potential to cause serious harm. MacLennan said that


    the

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    Pan affair "has given an opportunity for people to say - we're not


    really

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    having to debate how much snake is in the snake oil, or whether there is
    goanna contaminating the snake oil. We are really having to debate -


    should

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    you be on snake oil at all? ; and is this snake oil doing you any good,


    or,

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    more of a worry, is this snake oil doing you harm?"

    I think MacLennan's comments are ridiculously irrelevant, as what does


    snake

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    oil have to do with the sub-standard manufacture of an anti-histamine


    drug.

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    Well it seems that fanatics will take any opportunity to get on their


    hobby

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    horse. MacLennan is a Professor of Obstetrics and Gynaecology and has
    probably not been challenged with trying to help chronically ill people


    who

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    have been disappointed with drug orientated medicine. Perhaps he should


    keep

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    his know all opinion to the parts of the anatomy in which he is an


    expert.

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    John Dwyer's attempts to discredit my Liver Cleansing Diet Book


    unwittingly

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    helped make my book very famous.

    Of course there would be no show without Professor John Dwyer who has
    consistently rubbished complementary medicine for many years, and has


    called

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    the practice of nutritional medicine anti-science, dangerous and


    misleading.

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    John Dwyer's attempts to discredit my Liver Cleansing Diet Book


    unwittingly

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    helped make my book very famous. He would usually wait till I was


    overseas

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    to start the anti-Dr Cabot campaign and when I called for a debate, he


    was

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    no where to be seen.

    Now I was surprised when Bob Carr had his say. Carr thinks the Pan


    affair

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    has given opportunity to assess "some of the exploitation of gullible
    people" that took place under the guise of alternative therapy and
    complementary medicine, suggesting some therapies were not much better


    than

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    those sold by the medicine-man hucksters of the 19th century". He


    inferred

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    that we have more snake oil sales men now, than we did in the medieval


    ages!

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    Well Bob have you been challenged with thousands of unwell people who


    have

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    found that conventional drugs made them sicker? Where is your experience


    and

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    scientific background that enable you to be an expert on the ethical and
    scientific standards of Complementary Medicine?

    The Australian Consumer Association was represented in the scandal by


    Mr.

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    Martyn Goddard. Mr. Goddard must have a lot of experience in clinical
    medicine as he seems to believe that he must protect the people from the
    charlatans and sales men who are trying to sell them unproven remedies


    that

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    are akin to snake oil.

    Wow we have so much snake oil around these days perhaps we should do a
    clinical trial on it - it just may have the healthy essential fatty


    acids

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    to

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    boost your brain power. Goddard states that complementary medicines


    should

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    not be released onto the market unless they have undergone the same


    rigorous

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    scientific scrutiny that is applied to new drugs to prove that they are


    safe

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    and effective. Well it would have been good if clinical trials and tests


    had

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    detected the toxicity of the cholesterol lowering drug called Lipobay


    before

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    its release into a market of unsuspecting guinea pigs. Lipobay was


    subject

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    to a world-wide withdrawal (except for Japan), because it caused a spate


    of

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    serious muscle diseases that resulted in death in a significant number


    of

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    people who were taking it.

    And then there is the drug called Rezeulin that was released onto the


    market

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    several years ago, as a new treatment for diabetics. Pity that it caused
    acute liver breakdown and death in so many people, that adverts were


    posted

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    in all American newspapers to tell consumers to stop taking it


    immediately.

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    Yes it would be nice if drug companies had tests and trials that were
    infallible that could be used for drugs and nutritional supplements.

    And then you must remember the HRT scandal that achieved media notoriety


    in

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    July 2002 and created a bomb shell in conventional medicine. This was
    because the American Women's Health Initiative (WHI) Study found that


    the

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    advice doctors and drug companies had been giving women for 20 years


    about

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    HRT was no longer strictly correct. In contrast to what women had been
    promised, conventional HRT did not protect them from cardiovascular


    disease,

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    and indeed increased the risk of heart attacks, strokes and blood clots.


    Yes

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    it was a surprise to see how quickly over 20 years of clinical research


    by

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    drug companies could be turned on its head. The legal fraternity is now
    cautioning doctors to get their patients to sign consent forms, which


    detail

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    the dangers of HRT before they can receive a prescription. It seems that
    nothing is perfectly safe to take any more!

    So now we have a "squeaky clean" pharmaceutical and medical industry


    calling

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    the supporters of nutritional medicine snake oil salesmen - well it's


    hardly

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    cricket! I think its time for a decent match of rugby league football


    where

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    the brave opponents can have a good fight. It's time for a real rough


    game -

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    cricket is just too nice!

    Now who should be on the opposing teams?
    1. Professors and medical doctors who do not approve of the use of
    supplements
    2. Medical doctors and professors who have been using nutritional


    medicine

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    for years
    Yes it could be the fossils versus the snakes - it would be heated,
    passionate, and venomous and it would be fun - we know Australians are a
    sporting nation, so let the public decide.

    Facts to discuss
    The Pan debacle arose because of the substandard manufacturing of a
    "Travacalm" drug (anti-histamine) and not a nutritional supplement.

    Why was the substandard manufacturing of an anti-histamine drug used as
    weapon against the whole ideology of nutritional & herbal medicine?

    People die regularly because of side effects from drugs and rarely (if
    ever) from nutritional & herbal supplements.

    Contrary to what the opponents say about the validity of nutritional


    and

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    herbal medicine, there is a huge volume & data base of clinical research
    into the efficacy of these substances.

    Corporate greed and dishonesty should not be able to use complementary
    medicine as a scapegoat for its sins.

    Many small businesses may become bankrupt because the whole CHC


    industry

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    has been tarred with the same brush as Pan labs - there are many good
    Australian manufacturers of nutritional supplements that cannot be


    compared

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    to Pan. Why should the small players (retailers & distributors) be made


    to

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    pay for the corruption and greed of a minority? Where is corporate


    justice

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    here? -

    Company and individuals that commit offences such as insider trading,
    insolvency trading, embezzlement etc, are now being scrutinized - well


    so

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    should pill manufacturers that put peoples lives at risk.

    Medicine that is based wholly upon the use of "proven" pharmaceutical


    drugs

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    does not treat the causes of disease- it is focused on treating the


    symptoms

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    The Australian public wants nutritional medicine - they have proven this


    by

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    spending 3 to 4 times as much money on supplements, than they do on


    drugs -

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    obviously this is because they are not fully satisfied with conventional
    and/or drug orientated medicine.

    Why are more and more doctors doing courses in complementary and
    nutritional medicine? The courses offered by the Australian College of
    Nutritional & Environmental medicine are extremely popular with doctors


    who

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    are interested in learning how to prescribe nutritional supplements.

    Important Announcement
    Dr Sandra Cabot's Health Formulations including the LivatoneT range, are


    NOT

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    manufactured by PAN Pharmaceuticals Ltd.

    Our products are made by a TGA approved laboratory in Australia and our
    manufacturing facility operates to and maintains the highest standards.

    We are happy to reassure you that our products are of the highest


    quality.

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    Dr Sandra Cabot
    April 28, 2003

  13. "Hawki63" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Subject: Re: Dr. Sandra Cabot
    From: "Gymmy Bob" [email hidden]
    Date: 3/4/2004 5:57 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

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    They are all jealous and have to discredit her because she is a top


    medical

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    person turned to the real medical truth method. This blows away their
    credibility of arguments.

    <snipped rubbish from hawki>

    nothing left.

  14. "Kim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

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    "Gymmy Bob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    They are all jealous and have to discredit her because she is a top


    medical

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    person turned to the real medical truth method. This blows away their
    credibility of arguments.


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    Excuse me, but if the stated University doesn't give such a degree, she is
    lying. If she is lying about her degree what else may she be lying about?

    Kim

    Kim's lying.


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    The best defense to logic is ignorance

    and you're the living proof of that.

  16. Kim said:


    "Gymmy Bob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

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    They are all jealous and have to discredit her because she is a top


    medical

    Quoted message said:

    person turned to the real medical truth method. This blows away their
    credibility of arguments.


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    Excuse me, but if the stated University doesn't give such a degree, she is
    lying. If she is lying about her degree what else may she be lying about?

    Kim

    Everything?

    One web site she says that she has MB,BS from the University of
    Adelaide (which has a medical school and grants those degrees). On
    another web site she says she has MB,BS from the University of South
    Australia, which has no medical school and therefore cannot grant
    those degrees. On the covers of her books (featured on one of the web
    sites) she calls herself "MD", a degree which she does not have. At
    the top of one of the web sites she refers to herself as "MD, a degree
    which she does not have.

    It is interesting to note that Jan has cited both web sites in the
    last few days.

    --
    Peter Bowditch
    The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
    The Green Light http://www.ratbags.com/greenlight
    and The New Improved Quintessence of the Loon with added Vitamins and C-Q10 http://www.ratbags.com/loon
    To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com

  17. She had no MD - that's a fact.
    Anth

    "Peter Bowditch" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Kim said:


    "Gymmy Bob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

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    They are all jealous and have to discredit her because she is a top


    medical

    Quoted message said:

    person turned to the real medical truth method. This blows away their
    credibility of arguments.


    ============================
    Excuse me, but if the stated University doesn't give such a degree, she


    is

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    lying. If she is lying about her degree what else may she be lying


    about?

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    Kim

    Everything?

    One web site she says that she has MB,BS from the University of
    Adelaide (which has a medical school and grants those degrees). On
    another web site she says she has MB,BS from the University of South
    Australia, which has no medical school and therefore cannot grant
    those degrees. On the covers of her books (featured on one of the web
    sites) she calls herself "MD", a degree which she does not have. At
    the top of one of the web sites she refers to herself as "MD, a degree
    which she does not have.

    It is interesting to note that Jan has cited both web sites in the
    last few days.

    --
    Peter Bowditch
    The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
    The Green Light http://www.ratbags.com/greenlight
    and The New Improved Quintessence of the Loon with added Vitamins and


    C-Q10 http://www.ratbags.com/loon

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    To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com

  18. "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Subject: Re: Dr. Sandra Cabot
    From: [email hidden] (Mark)
    Date: 3/4/2004 7:56 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    "Mark Probert-March 4, 2004" <Mark [email hidden]>


    wrote in

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    message news:<[email hidden]>...

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    "rb" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    > This lady does seem to me to have the highest credentials despite the
    > "anti-alt posting" paid lackeys here on this newsgroup.

    Hello, again, rubber brain.

    Can you post some proof that some people get paid? If so, please let me


    know

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    where to sign up.

    I imagine getting paid for doing what is so otherwise enjoyable.

    I get paid for practicing real medicine. I don't get paid for posting
    to MHA, but I feel that I get intangible benefits out of that
    particular pursuit:

    1) I have the opportunity to educate and debate,
    2) I get to poke my thumb in the eye of people who just annoy the
    [censored] out of me.

    That's very professional.

    And you are what?????

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    my other hobby (time-waster in a big way is more like it) is lurking


    around the

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    Internet, annoying people who engage in the dissemination of bozo-science
    medical advice. My favorites are the "NutraSweet causes brain cancer"


    folks and

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    those who would have us believe that milk causes diabetes. I could claim


    it's

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    my duty as a high-falutin' medical professional, but really it's just my
    natural pugnacious tendency."

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    RB might like to tackle this question: Just where did "Dr." Cabot get
    her medical degree, since the University of South Australia (her
    supposed alma mater) doesn't even offer one?

    Mark, MD (a real doctor, with a real medical degree and real board
    certification)

    And a real attitude.

    I prefer doctors with an attitude. I do not want a wimp...

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    Uses the word [censored]

    Which you conveneintly removed from context and thus changed its usage. How
    about your "Jew Boy" comment, which in context was the hallmark of a bigot?

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    Can't control temper.

    Neither can you! You run off whining to ISPs, email providers like Yahoo,
    and complain to people's employers.

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    Also pushs Aspartame, and denies it's adverse effects.

    OF course he dies its adverse effects, since it does not have any. I would
    not want a doctor who believed in imaginary medicine.

    snip

  19. "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    It appears Dr Cabot is quite busy.

    (organized medicine would like to shut her up??)

    perhaps f she were treating real patients she would be doing better. As this
    points out, she is hawking books, etc. for profit.

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    http://www.whas.com.au/seminars.php

    Dr Cabot's Seminar Schedule in 2004
    February 2004
    Saturday 14th Expo Dr Cabot will be speaking at the International Womin's
    Symposium, Auckland Town Hall..

    Contact [email hidden] for more details

    Sunday 15th Expo New Spirit Festival, New Zealand.

    Contact [email hidden] for more details
    Wednesday 25th Venue: Orange Ex-Services Club - 7.30 pm Tickets $20
    Ticket Outlets:

    Angus & Robertson
    Michael Mullins - Chemist
    Canobolis Pure Health - Orange Arcade
    Orange Ex-Services Club
    Contact [email hidden] for more details
    Saturday 28th Expo Dr Cabot will be appearing at The Vitality Show,


    Townsville

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    Entertainment & Convention Centre

    Contact 07 4771 5755 for more details or visit www.vitalityshow.com.au

    Sunday 29th Expo Dr Cabot will be appearing at The Vitality Show,


    Townsville

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    Entertainment & Convention Centre

    Contact 07 4771 5755 for more details or visit www.vitalityshow.com.au
    March 2004
    24th
    From Midday Onwards Go Vita Hervey Bay QLD
    Shop 7 Urangan Central Shopping Centre
    Urangan QLD 4655

    Contact Michael 0422 413 439

    31st Venue: Shellharbour Workers Club. 7.30 pm

    Ticket Outlets:

    Go Vita Health Food Store - Shellharbour Square
    Go Vita Health Food Store - Kiama
    Angus & Robertson Book World - Shellharbour
    Shellharbour Workers' Club
    Contact [email hidden] for more details

    April 2004
    28th Venue: Tamworth

    Tickets: $20.00 through The Honey Pot Health Food Store (White Street
    Tamworth).

    Contact [email hidden] for more details

    May 2004
    4th Venue: Clovercrest Baptist Church
    2 Famechon Crescent
    Modbury North

    Tickets: $20.00

    Contact 02 4655 8855 for more details
    5th Venue: Flinders University
    The Matthew Flinders Theatre
    Adelaide

    Click here for venue info

    Tickets: $20.00

    Contact 02 4655 8855 for more details

    25th
    7pm Venue: Caboolture

    Book through Caboolture Central Library

    Contact: [email hidden]

    26th Venue: ALBURY Venue to be advised by end of next week

    Contact [email hidden] for more details

    June 2004
    11th-14th Venue: Mind Body Spirit Festival
    Melbourne Exhibition Centre,
    2 Clarendon Street,
    Southbank, Melbourne, Australia

    Further Information

    23rd Venue: COFFS HARBOUR

    Contact [email hidden] for more details

    July 2004
    28th Venue: WAGGA WAGGA

    Contact [email hidden] for more details

    August 2004
    Venue: PERTH

    Contact [email hidden] for more details

    September 2004
    29th Venue: DUBBO (replaces Condobolin/Parkes/Forbes)

    Contact [email hidden] for more details

    October 2004
    26th Venue: QUEANBEYAN

    Contact [email hidden] for more details

    November 2004
    24th Venue: BALLINA

    Contact [email hidden] for more details

    Watch this space for updates

    Sandra is an expert in women's hormonal problems and can show you how to
    overcome premenstrual syndrome menopausal symptoms, poor libido, postnatal
    depression, acne, excessive body hair and hormonal headaches. Sandra can
    explain in simple terms the use of natural hormones such as progesterone,


    DHEA,

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    Estrogen and testosterone.

    She will explain how many such treatments can be tailor made and refined


    for

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    the individual woman.You will also learn about herbs and foods that


    contain

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    natural plant estrogens called phytosterols. You will be amazed at the


    powerful

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    effect that hormones have in our bodies.

    Doctor Sandra Cabot is also a naturopath and will explain the use of
    nutritional supplements for a wide range of common health problems such as
    endometriosis, chronic fatigue, poor immune function and common pain


    syndromes

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    such as headaches, arthritis and fibromyalgia.

    Sandra is a doctor who has found that after more than 20 years of medical
    practice the most powerful healing tool for women is diet. She will give


    you

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    the dietary tools to rejuvenate your tired body and slow down the ageing
    process. You will learn how to improve the function of liver, which is the


    most

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    important organ of metabolism.

    If you are struggling with weight problems and don't know why, Sandra will
    show you the solution as she has helped thousands of women with weight and
    hormonal problems.

    A healthy liver is the key to weight control and will enable you to lose


    weight

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    easily without counting calories or weighing every morsel of food.

    Another subject that will fascinate you is that of the four body types and
    learning which body type you are. Each body type has different hormonal


    and

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    metabolic characteristics that determine where weight gain will occur.

    Learn which diet suits your body type and can help to balance your


    hormones.

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    There will be plenty of time to talk to Sandra on a personal level and


    have

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    your questions answered.

    Dr. Cabot may be able to come to your city, If you are interested in


    organising

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    a seminar, drop us an e-mail. Financial incentives and fund raising
    possibilities apply.

    ==

    http://www.whas.com.au/index.php

    NEW Sandra Cabot Broadway Healthcare Clinic
    Opened 2nd September on Broadway in Sydney

    The Broadway Health Centre has 2 separate consulting rooms so 2 doctors or


    one

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    doctor and a weight loss consultant can work simultaneously. There is a
    Compounding Pharmacy at the clinic which will make up natural HRT scripts


    on

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    the spot if the patient so desires. The pharmacy like the clinic is open 7


    days

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    a week which is fantastic for busy patients or people traveling from far


    away.

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    Call today and make a booking now.

    The Broadway Health Centre is situated at Shop M 103 & 104, 1-21 Bay


    Street,

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    Broadway, 2009. NSW

    Jan

  20. <Rich.@.> wrote in message
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    (Jan) said:
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    Mark, MD (a real doctor, with a real medical degree and real board
    certification)

    And a real attitude.

    Uses the word [censored]

    Next thing you know this despicable bigot and antisemite will be
    contacting Mark's employer to let them know he used the word "[censored]".

    What makes you believe that jan has not already complained like you
    describe? We all know that it i snot beneath her to whine to employers. She
    has done it herslef, and condones this type of netstalking and harrassment
    when other alties and her facilitators do it.

    Quoted message said:

    Of course when Jan repeated the word she also used it. But the rules
    don't apply to Jan.

    Correct. Jan is above the rules of common decency.

    She can use the word with impunity. Jan is upset

    Quoted message said:

    because she is repeatedly confronted about her calling someone a Jew
    Boy showing her antisemitism. Mark did not call anyone a "[censored]" and
    Jan knows it. But she is so desperate to trash those who disagree with
    her POV that she will stoop to any level.

    And there are those who question whether Jan is evil. God is reading
    what Jan posts here. Jan will reap what she sows.

    I bet not a single altie will confront Jan about her attempt to
    discredit someone by taking a word he said completely out of context.
    And the reason no altie will confront her is because they must stick
    together.

    Agreed.

    Quoted message said:

    Cue Jan to pretend she is not reading my post and then attack me from
    behind her imaginary kill file. It is so predictable.

    If anyone responds to ANY of my posts Jan uses it as an opportunity
    for her cowardly attack. I proved that Jan lied about having mercury
    poisoning and there is nothing she can do to change that. Jan is a
    despicable liar who deliberately lied about having mercury poisoning
    because she does not care about anyone and who only in interested in
    trashing conventional medicine while promoting alternative medicine.

    Aloha,

    rich
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