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  1. I'm 47 and never been a great swimmer but like doing it
    cause it makes me feel so limber

    having said that I wish to purchase a set of goggles
    and a swimmer snorkel (center mount) for use in the
    pool outdoors.

    Should I get goggles that only cover my eye socket?
    Or some that cover my nose as well as eye sockets?

    And the reason I want the swimmer snorkel is that my
    breathing tech is not proper yet. With the snorkel I
    could keep my head.face down in the water ad at least
    swim laps and get upper body workout

    And....would buying some shorty training fins be a good
    idea?

    Thanks in advance!

  2. [email hidden] wrote in news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    Should I get goggles that only cover my eye socket?
    Or some that cover my nose as well as eye sockets?

    You mention wanting to learn proper breathing below. I feel anything that
    covers your nose will interfere with this.

    Quoted message said:

    And the reason I want the swimmer snorkel is that my
    breathing tech is not proper yet. With the snorkel I
    could keep my head.face down in the water ad at least
    swim laps and get upper body workout

    Unless you have a neck injury that makes it imposible to breath without
    one, I'd really recommend going without the snorkel. It sounds like
    you're just getting started, which usually means you're just beginning to
    learn proper body position and rotation. The snorkel will only serve to
    reinforce bad habits at a time when you should be learning to rid
    yourself of them.

    Hope that helps!

    Tom

  3. [email hidden] wrote in news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    Should I get goggles that only cover my eye socket?
    Or some that cover my nose as well as eye sockets?

    You mention wanting to learn proper breathing below. I feel anything that
    covers your nose will interfere with this.

    Quoted message said:

    And the reason I want the swimmer snorkel is that my
    breathing tech is not proper yet. With the snorkel I
    could keep my head.face down in the water ad at least
    swim laps and get upper body workout

    Unless you have a neck injury that makes it imposible to breath without
    one, I'd really recommend going without the snorkel. It sounds like
    you're just getting started, which usually means you're just beginning to
    learn proper body position and rotation. The snorkel will only serve to
    reinforce bad habits at a time when you should be learning to rid
    yourself of them.

    Hope that helps!

    Tom

  4. [email hidden] wrote in news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    Should I get goggles that only cover my eye socket?
    Or some that cover my nose as well as eye sockets?

    You mention wanting to learn proper breathing below. I feel anything that
    covers your nose will interfere with this.

    Quoted message said:

    And the reason I want the swimmer snorkel is that my
    breathing tech is not proper yet. With the snorkel I
    could keep my head.face down in the water ad at least
    swim laps and get upper body workout

    Unless you have a neck injury that makes it imposible to breath without
    one, I'd really recommend going without the snorkel. It sounds like
    you're just getting started, which usually means you're just beginning to
    learn proper body position and rotation. The snorkel will only serve to
    reinforce bad habits at a time when you should be learning to rid
    yourself of them.

    Hope that helps!

    Tom


  5. Quoted message said:


    And....would buying some shorty training fins be a good
    idea?

    Thanks in advance!

    Agree with Tom's comments re goggles and snorkel. Re fins - they can
    be great for helping you to learn good technique, but you will need a
    good book or coach to teach you some drills to get the most out of
    them. Just swimming up and down for fitness with or without the fins
    on isn't going to help you get much better technique-wise, and in fact
    having the fins on will probably make things worse as the extra
    propulsion they give you will hide a multitude of sins.


  6. Quoted message said:


    And....would buying some shorty training fins be a good
    idea?

    Thanks in advance!

    Agree with Tom's comments re goggles and snorkel. Re fins - they can
    be great for helping you to learn good technique, but you will need a
    good book or coach to teach you some drills to get the most out of
    them. Just swimming up and down for fitness with or without the fins
    on isn't going to help you get much better technique-wise, and in fact
    having the fins on will probably make things worse as the extra
    propulsion they give you will hide a multitude of sins.


  7. Quoted message said:


    And....would buying some shorty training fins be a good
    idea?

    Thanks in advance!

    Agree with Tom's comments re goggles and snorkel. Re fins - they can
    be great for helping you to learn good technique, but you will need a
    good book or coach to teach you some drills to get the most out of
    them. Just swimming up and down for fitness with or without the fins
    on isn't going to help you get much better technique-wise, and in fact
    having the fins on will probably make things worse as the extra
    propulsion they give you will hide a multitude of sins.


  8. Quoted message said:


    And....would buying some shorty training fins be a good
    idea?

    Thanks in advance!

    Agree with Tom's comments re goggles and snorkel. Re fins - they can
    be great for helping you to learn good technique, but you will need a
    good book or coach to teach you some drills to get the most out of
    them. Just swimming up and down for fitness with or without the fins
    on isn't going to help you get much better technique-wise, and in fact
    having the fins on will probably make things worse as the extra
    propulsion they give you will hide a multitude of sins.

  9. I'm a rookie, too. I've taken a few lessons with a Total Immersion swim
    coach and would highly recommend doing that if you have a coach near
    you (see www.totalimmersion.net for a list). I've learned how to
    breathe properly, how important the movement of the torso is to an
    efficient stroke, how to keep my hands loose and "catch" the
    water...it's all good stuff. Even with just one lesson, you'll come
    away with lots to practice to improve your stroke.

    Anna Marie

    P.S. I'm curious-- what swim goggles do folks here like best? I have a
    Lane 4 that is ok, but am thinking of getting another pair (for more
    comfortable fit/leak protection). Suggestions?

    Tom Henderson said:

    [email hidden] wrote in news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    Should I get goggles that only cover my eye socket?
    Or some that cover my nose as well as eye sockets?

    You mention wanting to learn proper breathing below. I feel anything that
    covers your nose will interfere with this.

    Quoted message said:

    And the reason I want the swimmer snorkel is that my
    breathing tech is not proper yet. With the snorkel I
    could keep my head.face down in the water ad at least
    swim laps and get upper body workout

    Unless you have a neck injury that makes it imposible to breath without
    one, I'd really recommend going without the snorkel. It sounds like
    you're just getting started, which usually means you're just beginning to
    learn proper body position and rotation. The snorkel will only serve to
    reinforce bad habits at a time when you should be learning to rid
    yourself of them.

    Hope that helps!

    Tom

  10. I'm a rookie, too. I've taken a few lessons with a Total Immersion swim
    coach and would highly recommend doing that if you have a coach near
    you (see www.totalimmersion.net for a list). I've learned how to
    breathe properly, how important the movement of the torso is to an
    efficient stroke, how to keep my hands loose and "catch" the
    water...it's all good stuff. Even with just one lesson, you'll come
    away with lots to practice to improve your stroke.

    Anna Marie

    P.S. I'm curious-- what swim goggles do folks here like best? I have a
    Lane 4 that is ok, but am thinking of getting another pair (for more
    comfortable fit/leak protection). Suggestions?

    Tom Henderson said:

    [email hidden] wrote in news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    Should I get goggles that only cover my eye socket?
    Or some that cover my nose as well as eye sockets?

    You mention wanting to learn proper breathing below. I feel anything that
    covers your nose will interfere with this.

    Quoted message said:

    And the reason I want the swimmer snorkel is that my
    breathing tech is not proper yet. With the snorkel I
    could keep my head.face down in the water ad at least
    swim laps and get upper body workout

    Unless you have a neck injury that makes it imposible to breath without
    one, I'd really recommend going without the snorkel. It sounds like
    you're just getting started, which usually means you're just beginning to
    learn proper body position and rotation. The snorkel will only serve to
    reinforce bad habits at a time when you should be learning to rid
    yourself of them.

    Hope that helps!

    Tom

  11. I'm a rookie, too. I've taken a few lessons with a Total Immersion swim
    coach and would highly recommend doing that if you have a coach near
    you (see www.totalimmersion.net for a list). I've learned how to
    breathe properly, how important the movement of the torso is to an
    efficient stroke, how to keep my hands loose and "catch" the
    water...it's all good stuff. Even with just one lesson, you'll come
    away with lots to practice to improve your stroke.

    Anna Marie

    P.S. I'm curious-- what swim goggles do folks here like best? I have a
    Lane 4 that is ok, but am thinking of getting another pair (for more
    comfortable fit/leak protection). Suggestions?

    Tom Henderson said:

    [email hidden] wrote in news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    Should I get goggles that only cover my eye socket?
    Or some that cover my nose as well as eye sockets?

    You mention wanting to learn proper breathing below. I feel anything that
    covers your nose will interfere with this.

    Quoted message said:

    And the reason I want the swimmer snorkel is that my
    breathing tech is not proper yet. With the snorkel I
    could keep my head.face down in the water ad at least
    swim laps and get upper body workout

    Unless you have a neck injury that makes it imposible to breath without
    one, I'd really recommend going without the snorkel. It sounds like
    you're just getting started, which usually means you're just beginning to
    learn proper body position and rotation. The snorkel will only serve to
    reinforce bad habits at a time when you should be learning to rid
    yourself of them.

    Hope that helps!

    Tom

  12. I'm a rookie, too. I've taken a few lessons with a Total Immersion swim
    coach and would highly recommend doing that if you have a coach near
    you (see www.totalimmersion.net for a list). I've learned how to
    breathe properly, how important the movement of the torso is to an
    efficient stroke, how to keep my hands loose and "catch" the
    water...it's all good stuff. Even with just one lesson, you'll come
    away with lots to practice to improve your stroke.

    Anna Marie

    P.S. I'm curious-- what swim goggles do folks here like best? I have a
    Lane 4 that is ok, but am thinking of getting another pair (for more
    comfortable fit/leak protection). Suggestions?

    Tom Henderson said:

    [email hidden] wrote in news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    Should I get goggles that only cover my eye socket?
    Or some that cover my nose as well as eye sockets?

    You mention wanting to learn proper breathing below. I feel anything that
    covers your nose will interfere with this.

    Quoted message said:

    And the reason I want the swimmer snorkel is that my
    breathing tech is not proper yet. With the snorkel I
    could keep my head.face down in the water ad at least
    swim laps and get upper body workout

    Unless you have a neck injury that makes it imposible to breath without
    one, I'd really recommend going without the snorkel. It sounds like
    you're just getting started, which usually means you're just beginning to
    learn proper body position and rotation. The snorkel will only serve to
    reinforce bad habits at a time when you should be learning to rid
    yourself of them.

    Hope that helps!

    Tom

  13. Quoted message said:

    Just swimming up and down for fitness with or without the fins
    on isn't going to help you get much better technique-wise, and in fact
    having the fins on will probably make things worse as the extra
    propulsion they give you will hide a multitude of sins.

    OK

    what abt forgetting the fins and using some pull buoys
    and a mask and snorkel?

    I'm gonna get a snorkel anyway as I want one. But I
    appreciate you advice on not using it.

    What abt the goggles? Get ones that cover eye sockets
    only? Such as Seal mask?

    see link

    http://tinyurl.com/e24gu

  14. Quoted message said:

    Just swimming up and down for fitness with or without the fins
    on isn't going to help you get much better technique-wise, and in fact
    having the fins on will probably make things worse as the extra
    propulsion they give you will hide a multitude of sins.

    OK

    what abt forgetting the fins and using some pull buoys
    and a mask and snorkel?

    I'm gonna get a snorkel anyway as I want one. But I
    appreciate you advice on not using it.

    What abt the goggles? Get ones that cover eye sockets
    only? Such as Seal mask?

    see link

    http://tinyurl.com/e24gu

  15. Quoted message said:

    Just swimming up and down for fitness with or without the fins
    on isn't going to help you get much better technique-wise, and in fact
    having the fins on will probably make things worse as the extra
    propulsion they give you will hide a multitude of sins.

    OK

    what abt forgetting the fins and using some pull buoys
    and a mask and snorkel?

    I'm gonna get a snorkel anyway as I want one. But I
    appreciate you advice on not using it.

    What abt the goggles? Get ones that cover eye sockets
    only? Such as Seal mask?

    see link

    http://tinyurl.com/e24gu

  16. Quoted message said:

    Just swimming up and down for fitness with or without the fins
    on isn't going to help you get much better technique-wise, and in fact
    having the fins on will probably make things worse as the extra
    propulsion they give you will hide a multitude of sins.

    OK

    what abt forgetting the fins and using some pull buoys
    and a mask and snorkel?

    I'm gonna get a snorkel anyway as I want one. But I
    appreciate you advice on not using it.

    What abt the goggles? Get ones that cover eye sockets
    only? Such as Seal mask?

    see link

    http://tinyurl.com/e24gu

  17. "mainewriter" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:1122384905.658361.148270
    @g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

    Quoted message said:

    P.S. I'm curious-- what swim goggles do folks here like best? I have a
    Lane 4 that is ok, but am thinking of getting another pair (for more
    comfortable fit/leak protection). Suggestions?

    It's hard to find a consensus. Different goggles work for different
    faces. We have a local swim shop that will open every box in the stor to
    allow you to try on different goggles. Then, if it turn out they feel
    different in the pool than on land, they still let you exchange them. If
    you can find a place that allows you to try a variety of goggles for fit,
    tkae advatage of it. Try as many different styles as it takes to find
    something comfortable that seals well.

    Tom

  18. Tom, thanks for the suggestion. I've checked out all the sports/tri
    stores in my area and they didn't have much of a selection (one or two
    kinds). I bought my Lane 4s at the tri shop. That's why I asked the
    question: I'm thinking of trying the web. My Total Immersion instructor
    had a pair called Aqua something...Aqua Sphere maybe? Anyway, they had
    a different seal than my Lane 4's. I didn't try them (wish I had now)
    but I couldn't find her style on the web... oh well. Mine aren't
    horrible; they just leak a little unless I tighten the strap a bit more
    than is comfortable.

    Anna Marie

    Tom Henderson said:

    "mainewriter" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:1122384905.658361.148270
    @g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

    Quoted message said:

    P.S. I'm curious-- what swim goggles do folks here like best? I have a
    Lane 4 that is ok, but am thinking of getting another pair (for more
    comfortable fit/leak protection). Suggestions?

    It's hard to find a consensus. Different goggles work for different
    faces. We have a local swim shop that will open every box in the stor to
    allow you to try on different goggles. Then, if it turn out they feel
    different in the pool than on land, they still let you exchange them. If
    you can find a place that allows you to try a variety of goggles for fit,
    tkae advatage of it. Try as many different styles as it takes to find
    something comfortable that seals well.

    Tom

  19. Quoted message said:

    Total Immersion instructor
    had a pair called Aqua something...Aqua Sphere maybe?

    was this what he had?

    http://tinyurl.com/e24gu

  20. mainewriter said:


    Tom, thanks for the suggestion. I've checked out all the sports/tri
    stores in my area and they didn't have much of a selection (one or two
    kinds). I bought my Lane 4s at the tri shop. That's why I asked the
    question: I'm thinking of trying the web. My Total Immersion instructor
    had a pair called Aqua something...Aqua Sphere maybe? Anyway, they had
    a different seal than my Lane 4's. I didn't try them (wish I had now)
    but I couldn't find her style on the web... oh well. Mine aren't
    horrible; they just leak a little unless I tighten the strap a bit more
    than is comfortable.

    Anna Marie

    To test a seal on goggles before buying them, just press them to your
    face without using the strap. Press them hard and let go. If they fall
    off straight away, they won't work for you in the water. If they take a
    few seconds for the air to suck in before they fall off, they'll
    probably seal well in the water.

    Tam

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