Bayonne

Roger Bogda said:

Now there is WWIII and Bayonne once again plays it part.....hopefully with the same
ultimate result!

6 million dead?

Roger Bogda said:

First there was WWII, Bayonne played a part, the Allies won....

Now there is WWIII and Bayonne once again plays it part.....hopefully with the same
ultimate result!

Hum, I am afraid you are confirming the cliches about americans' weak knowledge of foreign
geography.

Benjamin

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First there was WWII, Bayonne played a part, the Allies won....

Now there is WWIII and Bayonne once again plays it part.....hopefully with the same
ultimate result!

Um, could you clarify the part that Bayonne played in WWII?

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First there was WWII, Bayonne played a part, the Allies won....

Now there is WWIII and Bayonne once again plays it part.....hopefully with the same
ultimate result!

Roger B

You equate WW III with the Tour? WTF?

My apologies, didn't intend to impy that...only one German with a slightly wounded ego.

R

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Roger Bogda said:

Now there is WWIII and Bayonne once again plays it part.....hopefully

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the same ultimate result!

6 million dead?

Robert Chung said:

Um, could you clarify the part that Bayonne played in WWII?

He saw the 6th episode of Band of Brothers, "Bastogne".

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Roger Bogda said:

First there was WWII, Bayonne played a part, the Allies won....

Now there is WWIII and Bayonne once again plays it part.....hopefully

with

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the same ultimate result!

Hum, I am afraid you are confirming the cliches about americans' weak knowledge of foreign
geography.

Dumbass -

Don't even get into foreign - Americans have weak knowledge of domestic geography.

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First there was WWII, Bayonne played a part, the Allies won....

Now there is WWIII and Bayonne once again plays it part.....hopefully with the same ultimate
result!

Um, could you clarify the part that Bayonne played in WWII?

Probably thinking of Bayonne, New Jersey. Major naval shipyard in WWII.

It is metaphor....

R

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First there was WWII, Bayonne played a part, the Allies won....

Now there is WWIII and Bayonne once again plays it part.....hopefully

with

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the same ultimate result!

Roger B

You equate WW III with the Tour? WTF?

My geography is good enough to know that New Jersey is not in France, see my post Bayonne in
WWII...and my reading skills are good enough to not confuse Bayonne and Bastogne!

Roger B

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First there was WWII, Bayonne played a part, the Allies won....

Now there is WWIII and Bayonne once again plays it part.....hopefully

with

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the same ultimate result!

Um, could you clarify the part that Bayonne played in WWII?

Probably thinking of Bayonne, New Jersey. Major naval shipyard in WWII.

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Roger Bogda said:

First there was WWII, Bayonne played a part, the Allies won....

Now there is WWIII and Bayonne once again plays it part.....hopefully

with

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the same ultimate result!

Hum, I am afraid you are confirming the cliches about americans' weak knowledge of foreign
geography.

Dumbass -

Don't even get into foreign - Americans have weak knowledge of domestic geography.

And yet we still have the most dominant army, economy and bike racer in the world. Strange.

JP

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"Roger Bogda" <[email hidden]> writes:

> First there was WWII, Bayonne played a part, the Allies won....
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> Now there is WWIII and Bayonne once again plays it part.....hopefully

with

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> the same ultimate result!

Hum, I am afraid you are confirming the cliches about americans' weak knowledge of foreign
geography.

Dumbass -

Don't even get into foreign - Americans have weak knowledge of domestic geography.

And yet we still have the most dominant army, economy and bike racer in the world. Strange.

You Dumbass -

Those are unrelated.

It's a fact that as a whole we are geographically ignorant.

from: signonsandiego.com20021121 9999 8n21geog.htmlOpen ↗

Only 13 percent of young Americans can pick out Iraq on a map, despite the possibility of a U.S.-led
war against that country. Even after last year's war in Afghanistan, only 17 percent can find that
country on a map.

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Other lowlights of the survey:

11 percent of Americans surveyed could not find the United States on an unlabeled map of the world.

More young Americans knew that last season's "Survivor" television show was filmed on an island in
the South Pacific than could locate New Jersey on a map.

Of the Americans taking the quiz, 29 percent couldn't find the Pacific Ocean, 58 percent couldn't
locate Japan, and 69 percent couldn't pick out the United Kingdom.

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> "Roger Bogda" <[email hidden]> writes:
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> > First there was WWII, Bayonne played a part, the Allies won....
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> > Now there is WWIII and Bayonne once again plays it part.....hopefully
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> > the same ultimate result!
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> Hum, I am afraid you are confirming the cliches about americans' weak knowledge of foreign
> geography.

Dumbass -

Don't even get into foreign - Americans have weak knowledge of domestic geography.

And yet we still have the most dominant army, economy and bike racer in the world. Strange.

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You Dumbass -

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Those are unrelated.

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It's a fact that as a whole we are geographically ignorant.

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Only 13 percent of young Americans can pick out Iraq on a map, despite the possibility of a
U.S.-led war against that country. Even after last year's war in Afghanistan, only 17 percent can
find that country on a map.

Unfortunately, the bomber pilots were from the minority...

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Other lowlights of the survey:

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11 percent of Americans surveyed could not find the United States on an unlabeled map of
the world.

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More young Americans knew that last season's "Survivor" television show was filmed on an island
in the South Pacific than could locate New Jersey on a map.

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Of the Americans taking the quiz, 29 percent couldn't find the Pacific Ocean, 58 percent couldn't
locate Japan, and 69 percent couldn't pick out the United Kingdom.

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Jay Pique said:

Kurgan Gringioni said:

Don't even get into foreign - Americans have weak knowledge of domestic geography.

And yet we still have the most dominant army, economy and bike racer in the world. Strange.

JP

You don't need to know where you are to blow something up. You don't need to know where something
came from to buy it, or sell there. (Only the transporters need to know.) At least one American has
a pretty good grasp of (Western European) geography.

Not saying much.

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Don't even get into foreign - Americans have weak knowledge of domestic geography.

And yet we still have the most dominant army, economy and bike racer in the world. Strange.

JP

You don't need to know where you are to blow something up. You don't need to know where something
came from to buy it, or sell there. (Only the transporters need to know.) At least one American
has a pretty good grasp of (Western European) geography.

Not saying much.

Should the electorate be informed when it comes to making decisions on foreign policy issues?
Incorrect data/beliefs leads to faulty conclusions which leads to faulty actions.

This bit of ignorance was in the news recently.

democraticunderground.com23 hole.htmlOpen ↗

Some recent polls reveal 59% of Americans believe Saddam Hussein was involved in 9/11, and 50%
believe Iraqis were among the 9/11 hijackers. 41% believe that WMD's have been found in Iraq, and
22% of Americans believe Iraq used weapons of mass destruction during the U.S. invasion.

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Jay Pique said:

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Dumbass -

Don't even get into foreign - Americans have weak knowledge of domestic geography.

And yet we still have the most dominant army, economy and bike racer in the world. Strange.

So.. when a gorilla is beating you over the head, do you change your opinion of gorillas and start
thinking of them as intellectually superior?

GK

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Should the electorate be informed when it comes to making decisions on foreign policy issues?

I believe the answer is (evidently) clear: the public's ignorance is not a problem to overcome;
rather, it is an opportunity to exploit.

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> Hum, I am afraid you are confirming the cliches about americans' weak knowledge of foreign
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Don't even get into foreign - Americans have weak knowledge of domestic geography.

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And yet we still have the most dominant army, economy and bike racer in the world. Strange.

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You Dumbass - Those are unrelated.

Wrong, Henry. Cause and effect are reversed. Americans can get away with being ignorant of foreign
geography because we have the biggest economy (and because the countries on our borders are not
military or economic threats). In the rest of the world they have to know who their neighbors are
and what the capital of the USA is (and they also have at least a vague idea of New York and LA
because we export our TV and movies that are set in those places).

I just stepped out of a vintage/hipster clothing store in Sydney where I saw a green and yellow
jersey - and on the back it said "FAVRE".

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Dumbass -

Don't even get into foreign - Americans have weak knowledge of domestic geography.

And yet we still have the most dominant army, economy and bike racer in the world. Strange.

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So.. when a gorilla is beating you over the head, do you change your opinion of gorillas and start
thinking of them as intellectually superior?

Speaking of gorillas:

Winner: "All Creatures Great and Small" Category

His knowing brown eyes held her gaze for a seeming eternity, his powerful arms clasped her slim body
in an irresistible embrace, and from his broad, hairy chest a primal smell of "male" tantalized her
nostrils; "Looks like another long night in the ape house" thought veterinarian Abigail Brown as she
gingerly reached for the constipated gorilla's suppository.

Paul Jeffery Oxford, England

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GK