Winners Time Guess

Tom Kunich said:

1) Lance Armstrong
2) Jan Ullrich @ 6:00+
3) Ivan Basso @ 7:30+
4) Levi Leipheimer @ 11:00
5) Vino @ 12:10
6) Landis @ 12:30
7) Evans @ 14:30

Goddamm, you are as dumb as ever. Rasmussen's gonna lose 10+ minutes in
the time trial?

thanks,

K. Gringioni.

Kurgan Gringioni a écrit :

Quoted message said:

Goddamm, you are as dumb as ever. Rasmussen's gonna lose 10+ minutes in
the time trial?

No, but he'll drop out after falling and breaking his collar bone
trying to avoid my dog before the start in Corbeille Essonnes.

-ilan

Quoted message said:

Kurgan Gringioni a écrit :

Quoted message said:

Goddamm, you are as dumb as ever. Rasmussen's gonna lose 10+ minutes in
the time trial?

No, but he'll drop out after falling and breaking his collar bone
trying to avoid my dog before the start in Corbeille Essonnes.

-ilan

Then you shouldn't be letting your girlfriend out on the road without a
leash.

jj

1) Lance Armstrong
2) Jan Ullrich @ 6:00+
3) Ivan Basso @ 7:30+
4) Levi Leipheimer @ 11:00
5) Vino @ 12:10
6) Landis @ 12:30
7) Evans @ 14:30
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On a 55km ITT Lance should put 2 to 8 minutes on the other top GC guys.

Yes,
Ken

You didn't even guess your proposed winners time. Your post should have
read time gap to winner.

RVD

Jet said:

Quoted message said:

Kurgan Gringioni a écrit :

Quoted message said:

Goddamm, you are as dumb as ever. Rasmussen's gonna lose 10+ minutes in
the time trial?

No, but he'll drop out after falling and breaking his collar bone
trying to avoid my dog before the start in Corbeille Essonnes.

-ilan

Then you shouldn't be letting your girlfriend out on the road without a
leash.

jj

BOOM

On 19 Jul 2005 13:01:40 -0700, "Tom Kunich" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

1) Lance Armstrong
2) Jan Ullrich @ 6:00+
3) Ivan Basso @ 7:30+
4) Levi Leipheimer @ 11:00
5) Vino @ 12:10
6) Landis @ 12:30
7) Evans @ 14:30

You think Ullrich is going to put almost 3:42 into Basso?

No way.

And to not have Rasmussen in there. Damn, he's not THAT damn bad in a
TT.

Put a carrot in front of some of these guys and they can keep up. Look
at Pantani in Giro '98 and TdF '98.

David Ferguson said:

Put a carrot in front of some of these guys and they can keep up. Look
at Pantani in Giro '98 and TdF '98.

A "carrot"? Is that what they call it now? I'd heard some call it
"wasp" or "motivation" but never "carrot." You learn something new
every day.

JT

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k.papai said:

1) Lance Armstrong
2) Jan Ullrich @ 6:00+
3) Ivan Basso @ 7:30+
4) Levi Leipheimer @ 11:00
5) Vino @ 12:10
6) Landis @ 12:30
7) Evans @ 14:30
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On a 55km ITT Lance should put 2 to 8 minutes on the other top GC guys.

I wonder what the weather will be like. If it's wet, it might be
reasonable for Lance to ride a safe, conservative TT that leaves the
door open for someone else going all out to win.

OTOH, it might be important to Lance to win the ITT since he hasn't won
any stages yet.

Either way, I would bet that Ullrich finishes closer to Lance than he
did in the prologue.

John Forrest Tomlinson said:

David Ferguson said:

Put a carrot in front of some of these guys and they can keep up. Look
at Pantani in Giro '98 and TdF '98.

A "carrot"? Is that what they call it now? I'd heard some call it
"wasp" or "motivation" but never "carrot." You learn something new
every day.

JT

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The idea is to hang a carrot from a stick and put it out in front of
the donkey or mule you are riding. He will move his stubborn ass
forward for the carrot, never reaching it.

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On 07/19/2005 03:09 PM, in article
[email hidden], "k.papai"

Quoted message said:

1) Lance Armstrong
2) Jan Ullrich @ 6:00+
3) Ivan Basso @ 7:30+
4) Levi Leipheimer @ 11:00
5) Vino @ 12:10
6) Landis @ 12:30
7) Evans @ 14:30
==============

On a 55km ITT Lance should put 2 to 8 minutes on the other top GC guys.

I'll bet that no riders (not one, not any) in the top-10 lose more than
8-minutes. In fact, I doubt any of them will lose more than 5 minutes, and
that's pushing it.

I think 3-4 minute losses will be the max for anyone within the top-10.

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L. Sheffield said:

On 07/19/2005 03:09 PM, in article
[email hidden], "k.papai"

Quoted message said:

1) Lance Armstrong
2) Jan Ullrich @ 6:00+
3) Ivan Basso @ 7:30+
4) Levi Leipheimer @ 11:00
5) Vino @ 12:10
6) Landis @ 12:30
7) Evans @ 14:30
==============

On a 55km ITT Lance should put 2 to 8 minutes on the other top GC guys.

I'll bet that no riders (not one, not any) in the top-10 lose more than
8-minutes. In fact, I doubt any of them will lose more than 5 minutes, and
that's pushing it.

I think 3-4 minute losses will be the max for anyone within the top-10.

A lose is a lose Homeslice.....
How about trying to guess if any are going to 'gain'?

David Ferguson said:

John Forrest Tomlinson <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

A "carrot"? Is that what they call it now? I'd heard some call it
"wasp" or "motivation" but never "carrot." You learn something new
every day.

Quoted message said:

The idea is to hang a carrot from a stick and put it out in front of
the donkey or mule you are riding. He will move his stubborn ass
forward for the carrot, never reaching it.

You have been trolled. You have lost.

The idea is you put the carrot in front of the riders,
and the wasp in the behind.

In article <[email hidden]>,

Quoted post said:

David Ferguson said:

John Forrest Tomlinson <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

A "carrot"? Is that what they call it now? I'd heard some call it
"wasp" or "motivation" but never "carrot." You learn something new
every day.

Quoted message said:

The idea is to hang a carrot from a stick and put it out in front of
the donkey or mule you are riding. He will move his stubborn ass
forward for the carrot, never reaching it.

You have been trolled. You have lost.

The idea is you put the carrot in front of the riders,
and the wasp in the behind.

The caffeine suppository should go in the behind, too.

--
tanx,
Howard

Butter is love.

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

Quoted message said:

The idea is you put the carrot in front of the riders,
and the wasp in the behind.

Most riders find putting the wasp in the arm to be a more comfortable
option.

Quoted message said:

Kurgan Gringioni a écrit :

Quoted message said:

Goddamm, you are as dumb as ever. Rasmussen's gonna lose 10+ minutes in
the time trial?

ilanpi said:

No, but he'll drop out after falling and breaking his collar bone
trying to avoid my dog before the start in Corbeille Essonnes.

Emmerduer,
Dogs are going out of fashion. Get yourself a chimera instead.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

On a 55km ITT Lance should put 2 to 8 minutes on the other top GC guys.

Quoted message said:

I'll bet that no riders (not one, not any) in the top-10 lose more than

8-minutes. In fact, I doubt any of them will lose more than 5 minutes,
and
that's pushing it.

Quoted message said:

I think 3-4 minute losses will be the max for anyone within the top-10.

Personally I hope you're right; I hope the hard working Rasmussen loses
less
than 5 minutes. Levi, Floyd, Jan, Vino, and Basso should all be within
3 minutes or less of Lance.

Too bad about Kloeden's wrist.

-Ken

Howard Kveck said:

The caffeine suppository should go in the behind, too.

http://www.collectmedicalantiques.com/images/apothecary/26_pill_machine.jpg

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David Ferguson said:

John Forrest Tomlinson <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

A "carrot"? Is that what they call it now? I'd heard some call it
"wasp" or "motivation" but never "carrot." You learn something new
every day.

Quoted message said:

The idea is to hang a carrot from a stick and put it out in front of
the donkey or mule you are riding. He will move his stubborn ass
forward for the carrot, never reaching it.

You have been trolled. You have lost.

The idea is you put the carrot in front of the riders,
and the wasp in the behind.

Oh, ok. I thought maybe he hadn't heard of the carrot thing before.

If trying to help out people who ask stupid questions on rbr.....
looks like I'm going to get trolled and lose a lot.

D