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  1. ....refuses to collaborate with Chavanel in the last km and both lose
    out completely. What an idiot.

  2. Keith said:

    ...refuses to collaborate with Chavanel in the last km and both lose
    out completely. What an idiot.

    He's a winner, he races for first, never second.

  3. "gym.gravity" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Keith said:

    ...refuses to collaborate with Chavanel in the last km and both lose
    out completely. What an idiot.

    He's a winner, he races for first, never second.

    But he didn't realize that in cycling, it doesn't help to make sure that the
    other guy loses if you want to win.

  4. gym.gravity a écrit :

    Quoted message said:
    Keith said:

    ...refuses to collaborate with Chavanel in the last km and both lose
    out completely. What an idiot.

    He's a winner, he races for first, never second.

    That makes sense for his US races, where there's always another
    race, but not in possibly his only Tour participation where chances
    come rarely.

    -ilan

  5. "Keith" <[email hidden]> a écrit dans le message de news:
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    Quoted message said:

    ...refuses to collaborate with Chavanel in the last km and both lose
    out completely. What an idiot.

    Discovery was riding in front trying to slow down the peloton a bit to give
    Horner a better chance, but it wasn't enough.

  6. Keith said:

    ...refuses to collaborate with Chavanel in the last km and both lose
    out completely. What an idiot.

    He just explained it himself: in order to win he *had* to sit on
    Chavanel's wheel, having been in the break all day. And in his own words,
    he isn't here to take 2nd places. He also said it wasn't a disappointment
    that they didn't make it, he thought they would be caught much earlier.
    Apparently he has never had this scenario happen to him (in a long break,
    caught by the bunch on the last straight) because he said it had to happen
    one time or another, and he was just happy to be in the Tour while it
    happened.

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    gym.gravity a écrit :

    Quoted message said:
    Keith said:

    ...refuses to collaborate with Chavanel in the last km and both lose
    out completely. What an idiot.

    He's a winner, he races for first, never second.

    Quoted message said:

    That makes sense for his US races, where there's always another
    race, but not in possibly his only Tour participation where chances
    come rarely.

    IMO, that's even more reason to go for 1st or bust. With Horner's age and
    palmares, I don't think a 2nd in a TdF stage would add much. A stage win is
    needed for him to move up in class (not to mention the value to his contract
    next year.)

  8. Quoted message said:

    That makes sense for his US races, where there's always another
    race,

    No, we only have about 3 races here that people actually watch, or are
    covered by any media. All the spectators at the other races live on
    the course and are forced to spectate, or are the lower category racers
    and family members.

  9. Yeah, and those other idiots McEwen, O'Grady, and Fast Freddie were only
    doing 60 kilometers per hours!!! Those idiots just refused to colloborate
    with Chavanel and Horner. What a bunch of speed freaks.

    "Keith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    ...refuses to collaborate with Chavanel in the last km and both lose
    out completely. What an idiot.

  10. "Steady Rollin' Man" <[email hidden]> a écrit dans le message
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    Yeah, and those other idiots McEwen, O'Grady, and Fast Freddie were only
    doing 60 kilometers per hours!!! Those idiots just refused to colloborate
    with Chavanel and Horner. What a bunch of speed freaks.

    More like 73 kilometers per hour.

  11. Hey, I was at Collegiate Cycling Nationals in Wichita Falls, TX
    and in the downtown criterium,
    there was no one there except for team members. Luckily,
    there were separate men and women's divisions which filled up
    the crowd to almost 100.

    -ilan

    gym.gravity a écrit :

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    That makes sense for his US races, where there's always another
    race,

    No, we only have about 3 races here that people actually watch, or are
    covered by any media. All the spectators at the other races live on
    the course and are forced to spectate, or are the lower category racers
    and family members.

  12. "Keith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    ...refuses to collaborate with Chavanel in the last km and both lose
    out completely. What an idiot.

    It wasn't going to happen even if he'd pulled through in the last km.
    Jalabert immediately got on his case saying his attempt to be "crafty" cost
    the both of them a shot at the win. The pack would have swallowed them up
    either way.

  13. after all that work, he doesn't even give a chance
    to himself of finishing on top, perhaps first...
    such an american mentality...really sad to watch that...

    "gym.gravity" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Keith said:

    ...refuses to collaborate with Chavanel in the last km and both lose
    out completely. What an idiot.

    He's a winner, he races for first, never second.

  14. You are retarded.

    RVD

  15. Quoted message said:

    Hey, I was at Collegiate Cycling Nationals in Wichita Falls, TX
    and in the downtown criterium,
    there was no one there except for team members. Luckily,
    there were separate men and women's divisions which filled up
    the crowd to almost 100.

    -ilan

    Pretty good! If you lay them down and stack them head to toe they
    would give the illusion of crowd support for 175meters before the
    finish line.

  16. They gave him the win, he blew it.

    ken

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    "Keith" <[email hidden]> a écrit dans le message de news:
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    Quoted message said:

    ...refuses to collaborate with Chavanel in the last km and both lose
    out completely. What an idiot.

    Discovery was riding in front trying to slow down the peloton a bit to
    give Horner a better chance, but it wasn't enough.

  17. "IMKen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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    They gave him the win, he blew it.

    ken

    The sprinters went past them like they were standing still.

    m.

  18. Quoted message said:

    gym.gravity a écrit :
    [Stuff about Horner]

    http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/browse_frm/thread/454b4911434d7799/f5f3d95a96de3ef1?hl=en#f5f3d95a96de3ef1

    You and I were almost right about the Horner/Voeckler break.
    But they should have gone yesterday like you said, not today.
    Tell Horner to pay more attention when reading RBR.

    Quoted message said:

    Hey, I was at Collegiate Cycling Nationals in Wichita Falls, TX
    and in the downtown criterium,
    there was no one there except for team members. Luckily,
    there were separate men and women's divisions which filled up
    the crowd to almost 100.

    Dude,
    You were in Wichita Falls, TX. What did you expect? That might
    have been the biggest crowd there for anything outside a rodeo
    or a motorcycle rally in the last squillion years.

    There are only about three races in the US with a big audience,
    not just because Americans don't know about bike racing, but
    because there are only about three big races that have the pull
    to close roads at a place and time where any spectators could
    conceivably show up. Even the Lower Manhattan Financial District
    Cycling Championships is actually held in a place that's
    semi-deserted on weekends, despite being in the densest population
    county in ths US.

  19. [email hidden] a écrit :

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    Dude,
    You were in Wichita Falls, TX. What did you expect? That might
    have been the biggest crowd there for anything outside a rodeo
    or a motorcycle rally in the last squillion years.

    Actually, I had a friend who moved there from San Jose, but
    refused to drive down to see the race.

    -ilan

  20. [email hidden] a écrit :

    Quoted message said:


    Dude,
    You were in Wichita Falls, TX. What did you expect?

    Hometown of Odell Barnes, executed at 33 years of age and a
    grandfather.

    -ilan

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