Is coffee bad?

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Why?

-fj

My gastroenterologist said it has nothing to do with the caffiene...

It's the acids and other nasty compounds in it that tend to irritate the
digestive system in a lot of people.

I'm not convinced tho', that in normal people with a non-irritable gut,
that coffee is harmful in moderate amounts.

Moderation is the key just like with anything else.

Don't drink a pot a day like some coffee junkies do. ;-)

Just my 2 cents, YMMV!

And no, I don't drink it...
I drink tea.
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

In article said:

Why?

-fj

My gastroenterologist said it has nothing to do with the caffiene...

It's the acids and other nasty compounds in it that tend to irritate the
digestive system in a lot of people.

I'm not convinced tho', that in normal people with a non-irritable gut,
that coffee is harmful in moderate amounts.

Moderation is the key just like with anything else.

Don't drink a pot a day like some coffee junkies do. ;-)

Just my 2 cents, YMMV!

And no, I don't drink it...
I drink tea.
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

i've heard it destroys the villi in the small intestine. also that it
increases stomach acid too much in some people.

also it is too high in caffeine for me. green tea is enough. white tea
is even more. and quality dark chocolate by itself is also enough. we
shouldn't be dependent on stimulants. using our adrenal glands for
energy is just faulty/dysfunctional living.
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"If I died and went to hell, Satan would make me work out in the morning."
-Larry Hodges

Axel of the North! said:

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

In article said:

Why?

-fj

My gastroenterologist said it has nothing to do with the caffiene...

It's the acids and other nasty compounds in it that tend to irritate the
digestive system in a lot of people.

I'm not convinced tho', that in normal people with a non-irritable gut,
that coffee is harmful in moderate amounts.

Moderation is the key just like with anything else.

Don't drink a pot a day like some coffee junkies do. ;-)

Just my 2 cents, YMMV!

And no, I don't drink it...
I drink tea.

i've heard it destroys the villi in the small intestine. also that it
increases stomach acid too much in some people.

also it is too high in caffeine for me. green tea is enough.

Caffeine is not the primary stimulatory pathway in green tea.

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And no, I don't drink it...
I drink tea.
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I know green tea is good. Unfortunately it doesn't taste like coffee.

Nothing wrong with coffee, it's good for you (as long as you don't
drink it).

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Nothing wrong with coffee, it's good for you (as long as you don't

drink it).

Right!! Stick to those coffee enemas and you'll be fine!

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also it is too high in caffeine for me. green tea is enough. white tea
is even more.

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"White tea?" Hot water?

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In article said:

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And no, I don't drink it...
I drink tea.
--

I know green tea is good. Unfortunately it doesn't taste like coffee.

True, but there is a whole world of teas. ;-)
I drink Earl Grays, hot.

With cream and splenda......
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

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fj said:

Why?

I s'pose what you really meant by this question is: "Is coffee bad
for you?" That depends on a variety of factors. As with most other
things: Some people can't tolerate it. It would be bad for them.
Some people are overly sensitive to the caffeine. Regular coffee
would be bad for them. Some health folk believe the caffeine in
coffee overly-stimulates the system, even in people that don't feel
all that affected by caffeine, and recommend shunning it. OTOH, a
recent report said that men who drink two cups of coffee a day had a
vastly lower instance of one-or-another type of cancer (prostate or
colon, IIRC).

*My* opinion is that coffee is all right in moderation. I suspect
that people who drink coffee all day long are not doing themselves
any good by it. I know people that had suffered serious withdrawal
symptoms when they quit. (ISTM being addicted to something that,
when quitting, results in withdrawal symptoms like that is a sign
that what you were doing was Not Good For You.)

As to "Is coffee bad?"...

One thing you can do for yourself is drink *good* coffee. The vast
majority of what you get off the average super-market shelf and in
restaurants, here in the U.S., anyway, is garbage. Learn to enjoy
properly prepared coffee brewed from freshly-ground and properly
roasted Arabica beans. Not only will such coffee taste a helluva lot
better, but Arabica beans have about 1/2 the caffeine, on average, as
the cheap Robusta beans from which most coffee you find here in the
States is made.

ObOT: I've found, the hard way, that downing 20 oz. of strong coffee
before going target-shooting is deleterious to ones performance 😉.

--
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WARNING: The "From:" address is a | for everyone to believe anything upon
spam trap. DON'T USE IT! Use: | insufficient evidence."
[email hidden] | - W. K. Clifford, ca. 1876

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freshly-ground and properly roasted Arabica beans.>

Your ignorance is astounding. Arabica is the cheapest, crappiest coffee
out there. That is why all the big chains use it. Columbian is premo.

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Right!! Stick to those coffee enemas and you'll be fine!>

I prefer beach sand enemas. More roughage.

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Right!! Stick to those coffee enemas and you'll be fine!>

I prefer beach sand enemas. More roughage.

Which you need !!!

fj said:

Why?

No, at least not the stuff I drink. In fact, it's really good. I always have
a shot of espresso before my speed workouts ...

- Donovan, about to make some espresso with the beans he roasted 2 days
ago...

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Donovan, about to make some espresso with the beans he roasted 2 days

ago...>

Grown in his own, organically gardened, "Martha Stewart" style garden,
ground with only platinum tipped, stainless steel blades, at midnite,
during a full moon, roasted over a clean burning, propane fired furnace
that roasts at 3,000' F, using only the finest...blah blah blah

fj wrote in message ...

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Why?

-fj

Coffee, tea, cocoa, cola soft drinks and energy drinks all contain
caffeine, a naturally occurring compound found in the leaves and fruits of
certain plants. As a stimulant, caffeine acts on the brain and nervous
system. In small doses, it can make you feel refreshed and focused. In large
doses, you are likely to feel anxious and have difficulty sleeping.

Like many other drugs, it is possible to develop a tolerance to caffeine,
which means ever greater doses are needed to achieve the same effect.
Caffeine is also found in chocolate bars and some over-the-counter
medications, like cough syrup and slimming tablets.

A short term burst of energy
Stimulants work on the body in similar ways to the hormone adrenalin. The
adrenal glands are located near the kidneys and, when we are frightened or
stressed, the glands squirt adrenalin directly into the bloodstream. The
results are dramatic and instantaneous, with an increase in breathing and
heart rate, accompanied by a short term burst of physical energy. Some of
the signs and symptoms of excessive amounts of caffeine include:

A rise in body temperature
Frequent urination and dehydration
Dizziness and headaches
After the energy burst, an even greater feeling of fatigue
Rapid heart beat (palpitations)
Restlessness and excitability
Anxiety and irritability
Trembling hands
Sleeplessness.
Addiction and withdrawal
Like many other drugs, it is possible to build up a tolerance to caffeine,
which means you need to take larger and larger doses to achieve the same
effect. Over time, your body might come to depend on caffeine in order to
function at its best. Withdrawal symptoms can include tiredness, crankiness,
a persistent headache, sweating and muscle pain. The easiest way to break
caffeine dependence is to cut down gradually, giving your nervous system
time to adapt to functioning without the drug.

How much is too much?
Your susceptibility to caffeine depends on your build, state of health,
metabolism, and whether or not your body is used to getting regular doses of
caffeine. Generally speaking, 500mg per day or less is considered an
acceptable dose. Approximate caffeine levels per cup in everyday drinks
include:
Chocolate drinks - 40 to 80mg
Coffee - 50 to 350mg, depending on the type and strength of the brew
Cola drinks - 40mg
Decaffeinated coffee - around 3mg
Tea - 10 to 80mg, depending on the type and strength of the brew.
Special considerations
Some people need to take special care with caffeine, for example:
Pregnant women - limit your caffeine intake to 200mg per day or less - or
eliminate it altogether.
Athletes - be aware that caffeine is considered a banned or restricted drug
at a competitive level. Depending on your build and metabolism, an intake of
around 500mg of caffeine over a few hours would probably be enough, in most
cases, to fail a drug test.
Where to get help
Your doctor
Chemist
Dietician.
Things to remember
Caffeine is a stimulant drug that acts on the brain and nervous system.
Like many other drugs, it is possible to become addicted to caffeine, such
that you need a certain dose every day in order to function normally.
Pregnant women and athletes should limit their intake of caffeine.

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freshly-ground and properly roasted Arabica beans.>

Your ignorance is astounding. Arabica is the cheapest, crappiest coffee
out there. That is why all the big chains use it. Columbian is premo.

No.

There are only 2 varieties of coffee, Arabica and Robusta.
Arabica is the good stuff, Robusta is bad. Columbian coffee
is mostly Arabica.

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Helgi Briem hbriem AT simnet DOT is

Helgi Briem said:

[email hidden] (gmail troll)wrote:

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Quoted message said:

freshly-ground and properly roasted Arabica beans.>

Your ignorance is astounding. Arabica is the cheapest, crappiest coffee
out there. That is why all the big chains use it. Columbian is premo.

No.

There are only 2 varieties of coffee, Arabica and Robusta.
Arabica is the good stuff, Robusta is bad. Columbian coffee
is mostly Arabica.

Gmail Troll is wrong? Wow. Who would've thought?

David

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Helgi Briem said:

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freshly-ground and properly roasted Arabica beans.>

Your ignorance is astounding. Arabica is the cheapest, crappiest coffee
out there. That is why all the big chains use it. Columbian is premo.

No.

There are only 2 varieties of coffee, Arabica and Robusta.

Actually, there is more than that. But the other varieties are of
little commercial interest.

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Arabica is the good stuff, Robusta is bad. Columbian coffee
is mostly Arabica.

Yahbut just cuz the can says, or the seller advertises, "Columbian"
doesn't mean that all, or even most, of what's in it is necessarily
Columbian, much-less Arabica.

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WARNING: The "From:" address is a | for everyone to believe anything upon
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fj said:

Why?

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As to "Is coffee bad?"...

One thing you can do for yourself is drink *good* coffee. The vast
majority of what you get off the average super-market shelf and in
restaurants, here in the U.S., anyway, is garbage. Learn to enjoy
properly prepared coffee brewed from freshly-ground and properly
roasted Arabica beans. Not only will such coffee taste a helluva lot
better, but Arabica beans have about 1/2 the caffeine, on average, as
the cheap Robusta beans from which most coffee you find here in the
States is made.

I'll second that... ;-)

Before I pretty much gave up coffee, I had switched to Arabica coffee as
well. There is a WORLD of difference in flavor!

I did abuse it tho' and had a headache from withdrawl for a solid 2
weeks after giving it up cold turkey.

That was shortly after having an Endoscopy. <lol>

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ObOT: I've found, the hard way, that downing 20 oz. of strong coffee
before going target-shooting is deleterious to ones performance 😉.

Shaky hands aren't real good for holding a site eh?
Who'da guessed?
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson