Hmmmm... " Although Maillot Jaune Lance Armstrong (Discovery Channel) lost 0'19 today to Vino (0'07 gap at finish + 0'12 time bonus), when asked about the loss of time to the Kazakh post stage, Armstrong shrugged, like it was no big deal. Discovery Channel manager Johan Bruyneel told Cyclingnews post stage that Lance didn't see Vino attack in the finale, but did say the time loss was "nothing serious." http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/2005/tour05/?id=results/tour056
Wonder what was said on the bus (what goes on the bus stays on the bus), but I don't think we'll see a repeat of that...
At this stage giving up 19 seconds is suboptimal, but do you really think Armstrong thinks he is going to need those 19 seconds to beat Vino? If was worried, it would be a sure sign he is concerned about this form...
Stewart Fleming said:
Hmmmm... " Although Maillot Jaune Lance Armstrong (Discovery Channel) lost 0'19 today to Vino (0'07 gap at finish + 0'12 time bonus), when asked about the loss of time to the Kazakh post stage, Armstrong shrugged, like it was no big deal. Discovery Channel manager Johan Bruyneel told Cyclingnews post stage that Lance didn't see Vino attack in the finale, but did say the time loss was "nothing serious." http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/2005/tour05/?id=results/tour056
Wonder what was said on the bus (what goes on the bus stays on the bus), but I don't think we'll see a repeat of that...
Hmmmm... " Although Maillot Jaune Lance Armstrong (Discovery Channel) lost 0'19 today to Vino (0'07 gap at finish + 0'12 time bonus), when asked about the loss of time to the Kazakh post stage, Armstrong shrugged, like it was no big deal. Discovery Channel manager Johan Bruyneel told Cyclingnews post stage that Lance didn't see Vino attack in the finale, but did say the time loss was "nothing serious." http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/2005/tour05/?id=results/tour056
Wonder what was said on the bus (what goes on the bus stays on the bus), but I don't think we'll see a repeat of that...
Damn! I love Vino!
Time for Ullrich and Kloden to put aside their own unattainable ambitions and give their all for the only one on the team that's got it in him to WIN.
At this stage giving up 19 seconds is suboptimal, but do you really think Armstrong thinks he is going to need those 19 seconds to beat Vino? If was worried, it would be a sure sign he is concerned about this form...
When Lance makes an excuse, there's something that he's not happy about. Form would be the least of it. I'm not convinced that his bunch instints are as sharp as they were. He went back 30-40 places between Vino's jump and the crash (700m), while Ullrich made it up and round.
since taking 19" in a flat stage with a mayhem at the finish costs less effort than doing it in the mountains. He won't be more tired than any other flat and got 19" bonus, what else do you want more?
since taking 19" in a flat stage with a mayhem at the finish costs less effort than doing it in the mountains. He won't be more tired than any other flat and got 19" bonus, what else do you want more?
that's not MY point. 19 secs may be important in the end.
my point is that vino's accomplishment today doesn't say anything about how he will fare on GC, or suggest that he should be T-mobile's leader (as the OP suggests).
Agreed, it does not saw where he will end. But it's clear wat his ambition is. And his ambition is bigger that Ullrich's. He realizes taking time back in the mountains will be hard. This was much easier and apparently he takes any opportunity. He does what ullrich says.
Time for Ullrich and Kloden to put aside their own unattainable ambitions and give their all for the only one on the team that's got it in him to WIN.
has everyone lost their minds ?
i like vino's style too, it's good for stage and classic wins.
but since when has picking up some spare change seconds on a flat stage been considered the sign of launching a serious challenge for the tour ?
I'm just having fun with it. It was a good finish to the stage. It remains to be seen who will mount a challenge since they haven't even hit the mountains yet.
OTOH, I do think Vino is a more interesting challenger than Ullrich.
At this stage giving up 19 seconds is suboptimal, but do you really think Armstrong thinks he is going to need those 19 seconds to beat Vino? If was worried, it would be a sure sign he is concerned about this form...
When Lance makes an excuse, there's something that he's not happy about. Form would be the least of it. I'm not convinced that his bunch instints are as sharp as they were. He went back 30-40 places between Vino's jump and the crash (700m), while Ullrich made it up and round.
Going slower and having the same time sounds like pretty good instincts to me.
