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I sent in my $100 this morning. I hope everyone else
does, too.No offense to Peter B, but I've chosen to donate to Dr Barrett & Quackwatch as
they are much closer geographically.I'm considering sending the money to Peter B next time.
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Maybe you could give him some feedback, drop him a line with some
suggestions such as how to include references to back his claims up.
Just to make sure your money is spent in fact, rather than assumptions?
Anth"Ilsa9" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:
I sent in my $100 this morning. I hope everyone else
does, too.No offense to Peter B, but I've chosen to donate to Dr Barrett &
Quackwatch asQuoted message said:
they are much closer geographically.
I'm considering sending the money to Peter B next time.
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Quoted message said:
Maybe you could give him some feedback, drop him a line with some
suggestions such as how to include references to back his claims up.
Just to make sure your money is spent in fact, rather than assumptions?
AnthIt would be nice if www.QuackWatch.org (that URL again: www.QuackWatch.org)
would have a bibliographic reference to the 6 attempted replications of the
Sloan Laetrile trials. The author of that article, Benjamin Wilson MD, does
include links to well designed studies which show that Laetrile does not
benefit cancer patients and it does cause cyanide toxicity in an unacceptable
%.It is very clear to anyone who reads the abundant literature cited in Dr
Wilson's article, that Laetrile has been tested more than a few times. It is
no assumption that it is a quack method. It is deadly to assume that
otherwise.N Engl J Med. 1982 Jan 28;306(4):201-6. Related Articles, Links
A clinical trial of amygdalin (Laetrile) in the treatment of human cancer.
Moertel CG, Fleming TR, Rubin J, Kvols LK, Sarna G, Koch R, Currie VE, Young
CW, Jones SE, Davignon JP.One hundred seventy-eight patients with cancer were treated with amygdalin
(Laetrile) plus a "metabolic therapy" program consisting of diet, enzymes, and
vitamins. The great majority of these patients were in good general condition
before treatment. None was totally disabled or in preterminal condition. One
third had not received any previous chemotherapy. The pharmaceutical
preparations of amygdalin, the dosage, and the schedule were representative of
past and present Laetrile practice. No substantive benefit was observed in
terms of cure, improvement or stabilization of cancer, improvement of symptoms
related to cancer, or extension of life span. The hazards of amygdalin therapy
were evidenced in several patients by symptoms of cyanide toxicity or by blood
cyanide levels approaching the lethal range. Patients exposed to this agent
should be instructed about the danger of cyanide poisoning, and their blood
cyanide levels should be carefully monitored. Amygdalin (Laetrile) is a toxic
drug that is not effective as a cancer treatment.Quoted message said:
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Quoted message said:
I sent in my $100 this morning. I hope everyone else
does, too.No offense to Peter B, but I've chosen to donate to Dr Barrett &
Quackwatch asQuoted message said:
they are much closer geographically.
I'm considering sending the money to Peter B next time.
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"Anth" <[email hidden]> schreef in bericht
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I saw this trial and there was serious doubts to whether there was
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Laetrile in their medications.
(One doctor tested it for purity and found that it contained no Laetrile
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all)
Anthsource?
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Robert Bronsing
But that's okay, see the children bleed
It'll look great on the TV -
World Without Cancer G Edward Griffin
Anth"Robert Bronsing" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"Anth" <[email hidden]> schreef in bericht
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I saw this trial and there was serious doubts to whether there was
actuallyQuoted message said:
Laetrile in their medications.
(One doctor tested it for purity and found that it contained no Laetrile
atQuoted message said:
all)
Anthsource?
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Robert Bronsing
But that's okay, see the children bleed
It'll look great on the TV -
From: "Steve Harris" <[email hidden]>
Newsgroups: alt.support.cancer,misc.kids.health,sci.med,sci.med.nutrition
Subject: Re: Philip E. Binzel, Jr., M.D. on laetrile toxicity
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 14:37:19 -0700john wrote in message <[email hidden]>...
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And they have been saying for years you can't use laetrile due to its
cyanide content.john
No, they've only been saying you can't EAT laetrile, because of its
cyanide content. Injecting it is safe enough, but the issue there
is lack of efficacy, not safety. It's legal for doctors to inject, in
some states. The FDA can do little about this, unless it's sold
across state lines for this purpose.SBH
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World Without Cancer G Edward Griffin
AnthWho was the Dr who tested it for "purity"?
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"Robert Bronsing" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"Anth" <[email hidden]> schreef in bericht
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I saw this trial and there was serious doubts to whether there was
actuallyQuoted message said:
Laetrile in their medications.
(One doctor tested it for purity and found that it contained no Laetrile
atQuoted message said:
all)
Anthsource?
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Robert Bronsing
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(Ilsa9) said:
Who was the Dr who tested it for "purity"?Dr. Seuss
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And if I told you what difference would it make?
You would be of the same opinion still.
Anth"Ilsa9" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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World Without Cancer G Edward Griffin
AnthWho was the Dr who tested it for "purity"?
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"Anth" <[email hidden]> schreef in bericht
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> I saw this trial and there was serious doubts to whether there was
actually
> Laetrile in their medications.
> (One doctor tested it for purity and found that it contained no
LaetrileQuoted message said:
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> all)
> Anthsource?
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Robert Bronsing
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And if I told you what difference would it make?
You would be of the same opinion still.
AnthI don't think that the story is true, but if there are actual names of actual
people who were actually involved, I might change my mind. I have a feeling
that the doctor in question is just a "nameless source". Prove me wrong.Quoted message said:
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World Without Cancer G Edward Griffin
AnthWho was the Dr who tested it for "purity"?
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