New Pannier Time

John Tomlinson said:

I need some new panniers. I am thinking about either the Ortlieb
Classic Roller or Vaude Tramp II. I am familiar with the Ortliebs but
does anyone have an opinion on the Vaudes?

http://www.gearshift.co.uk/acatalog/Rear_Panniers.html

John T.

I've been using a Tramp II* every (working) day for commuting the 6
miles to and from work for the last 3 years. It has taken a lot of
abuse and so far they have done me proud, no leaky seams, the mounting
system is easy to use (no need to attach extra bits to the rack), and
even when it's are stuffed full the back doesn't flex - so no danger of
getting involved with the spokes.

Over time the daily opening and closing has taken it's toll and a couple
of little holes have developed in the fabric where it folds over near
the top of the hard back - but I think that's because I rarely have it
full and therefore I roll the top down a lot further than they do in the
website photo.

The only other annoyance is that the side and bottom are made from a
different fabric which doesn't wipe clean.

Ian

* - Actually it's an Edinburgh Bicyle Co-op pannier that was available a
couple of years ago, but it's made by Vaude, has the Vaude logo on it,
and is identical to the Tramp II. (But only £50 for the pair ;-)).

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I need some new panniers.

Carradice Super-C - YKIMS.

cheers,
clive

Clive George said:

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I need some new panniers.

Carradice Super-C - YKIMS.

cheers,
clive

Seconded.

I've commuted with a pair for 5 years. My laptop managed to wear a hole
in one (they taper just that bit too much towards the bottom). Duct (Or
is it duck? I've never been sure.) tape to the rescue. Apart from that
they've been durable. When they're finally clapped out I'll buy another
pair.

Richard

John Tomlinson said:

I need some new panniers. I am thinking about either the Ortlieb
Classic Roller or Vaude Tramp II. I am familiar with the Ortliebs but
does anyone have an opinion on the Vaudes?

Similar to the Orts on examination in terms of fabrics and build
quality but for me the Ortliebs have it on ease of use of the
mounts and fixings.

I run Ort roller plusses, which use a lighter fabric. But they're
still pretty bombproof, and mine have no obvious signs of wear
after 3 years (or is it 4?). Excellent kit.

Neither are really much good when it comes to external pockets.
You can fix separate ones onto Orts but they're not as easy to use
in practice as sewn on pockets with zipped entires. For that, I'd
have a look at Carradice Super Cs which are not 101% fully
waterproof to immersion standards like Ortlieb rollers, but are
effectively waterproof against anything short of waves breaking
over them.
Another alternative is a conventional pannier with a raincover. I
also have Altura Orkneys which have a raincover as standard, but to
be quite honest I cn't be arsed with the raincovers and they're
still very good: well made with lots of pockets which is handy for
compartmentalising tools, snacks etc., and even in heavy rain very
little water gets in. Stuff lime my pump and multitool don't mind
water that much anyway, so nae bother with what does get in.

Pete.
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