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  1. On OLN yesterday there was a program about Greg LeMond. After reading
    Hinault's book and then listening to LeMond I think that Bernard probably
    couldn't let go of the idea of winning a 6th Tour himself. But I think that
    Greg would be best advised to listen to his OWN words, "I could tell now
    that if I'd won 5 or 6 or 7 Tours it still wouldn't be enough."

    A lot of [censored] happens in races and it's always best to forget it completely
    afterwards. No anger, no grudges and no worries. Of course if you're the one
    that caused it perhaps you ought to try to do better next time without
    having Johnny Dumbfvvk screaming at you.

  2. Greg's wife looked well preserved. Good thing she got a decent hair cut and
    lost the 80's glassess

    "Tom Kunich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    On OLN yesterday there was a program about Greg LeMond. After reading
    Hinault's book and then listening to LeMond I think that Bernard probably
    couldn't let go of the idea of winning a 6th Tour himself. But I think


    that

    Quoted message said:

    Greg would be best advised to listen to his OWN words, "I could tell now
    that if I'd won 5 or 6 or 7 Tours it still wouldn't be enough."

    A lot of [censored] happens in races and it's always best to forget it


    completely

    Quoted message said:

    afterwards. No anger, no grudges and no worries. Of course if you're the


    one

    Quoted message said:

    that caused it perhaps you ought to try to do better next time without
    having Johnny Dumbfvvk screaming at you.

  3. "Wannagofast" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Greg's wife looked well preserved.

    I wonder if she's summited Everest...

  4. I tend to agree. I guess Hinault himself is much closer to that philosophy.

    Note also that there is at least one TdF which Greg lost to a teammate
    who was obviously superior and for this loss he cannot blame the team
    manager, nor EPO.

    cheers,

    B

    Tom Kunich a écrit :

    Quoted message said:

    On OLN yesterday there was a program about Greg LeMond. After reading
    Hinault's book and then listening to LeMond I think that Bernard probably
    couldn't let go of the idea of winning a 6th Tour himself. But I think that
    Greg would be best advised to listen to his OWN words, "I could tell now
    that if I'd won 5 or 6 or 7 Tours it still wouldn't be enough."

    A lot of [censored] happens in races and it's always best to forget it completely
    afterwards. No anger, no grudges and no worries. Of course if you're the one
    that caused it perhaps you ought to try to do better next time without
    having Johnny Dumbfvvk screaming at you.

  5. piano said:

    ... Greg


    <Snip>

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    was, and maybe still is, a little too sensitive.
    Because,If he wasn't, he would have won a lot more races.
    Including the amazing Tour de France.

    Sensitive or not, somehow I seem to recall that he did fairly well in
    the TdF in '86, '89 and '90.

    DR

  6. On 28 Jun 2005 09:45:56 -0700, "Dirtroadie" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    piano said:

    ... Greg


    <Snip>

    Quoted message said:

    was, and maybe still is, a little too sensitive.
    Because,If he wasn't, he would have won a lot more races.
    Including the amazing Tour de France.

    Sensitive or not, somehow I seem to recall that he did fairly well in
    the TdF in '86, '89 and '90.

    DR

    And he would have had a great chance of winning in '87 and '88 if it
    wasn't for the "lead poisoning". The comeback from that is almost as
    impressive as Lance's. Lot's of parallels, with the weight loss and
    all.

    If he would have done that now, with the TT he put on Fignon... people
    would be talking about dope.

    D

  7. piano said:


    P.S. Go Lance!

    Just go!

  8. Kyle, who do you lean for in this year's Tour then?
    If you HAD to pick, which guy is your man?
    I'll commend you if you go out on a limb.
    -Ken

  9. David Ferguson said:

    If he would have done that now, with the TT he put on Fignon... people
    would be talking about dope.

    Haven't been around here long, have you?

    Bob Schwartz
    [email hidden]

    Google keywords: Lemond, iron, shot

  10. He's for Simeoni.

  11. On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 18:44:50 -0000, Bob Schwartz <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    David Ferguson said:

    If he would have done that now, with the TT he put on Fignon... people
    would be talking about dope.

    Haven't been around here long, have you?

    Bob Schwartz
    [email hidden]

    Google keywords: Lemond, iron, shot

    I guess not that long. You'll have to give me the short version. I
    read he got a couple shots of iron for anemia. More to it?

    D

  12. There's no more to it. I think the implication is that iron isn't about
    to make the sort of improvement that LeMond saw so he had to be taking
    something else.

    BS, what he took was enough training for his body to re-adapt. LeMond
    in '86 was all hell and gone better than Fignon. LeMond in '89 was
    about the equal of Fignon but Greg was FAR more motivated than Laurent,
    who made the mistake of demonstrating to Greg his irresistable French
    charm.

  13. k.papai said:

    Kyle, who do you lean for in this year's Tour then?
    If you HAD to pick, which guy is your man?
    I'll commend you if you go out on a limb.
    -Ken


    I don't have to pick, that's the beauty of free will.

  14. David Ferguson said:

    On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 18:44:50 -0000, Bob Schwartz <[email hidden]>
    wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    David Ferguson said:

    If he would have done that now, with the TT he put on Fignon... people
    would be talking about dope.

    Haven't been around here long, have you?

    Bob Schwartz
    [email hidden]

    Google keywords: Lemond, iron, shot

    Quoted message said:

    I guess not that long. You'll have to give me the short version. I
    read he got a couple shots of iron for anemia. More to it?

    Well, the statement was about talking about dope. If you plug those
    keywords into google groups you will find lots of talk about dope.

    I suppose you could plug just about any pro cyclist's name into
    google groups and find talk about dope.

    Bob Schwartz
    [email hidden]

  15. Kyle Legate said:


    k.papai said:

    Kyle, who do you lean for in this year's Tour then?
    If you HAD to pick, which guy is your man?
    I'll commend you if you go out on a limb.
    -Ken


    I don't have to pick, that's the beauty of free will.

    Being who and what you are, you had no choice but to write that. If you
    had written something else, you would be someone else other than the
    person who wrote the above.

    Play on the wording: Not having to pick negates will.

    http://www.determinism.com/05042002.shtml

  16. On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 18:25:17 -0000, Bob Schwartz <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    David Ferguson said:

    On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 18:44:50 -0000, Bob Schwartz <[email hidden]>
    wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    David Ferguson <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > If he would have done that now, with the TT he put on Fignon... people
    > would be talking about dope.

    Haven't been around here long, have you?

    Bob Schwartz
    [email hidden]

    Google keywords: Lemond, iron, shot

    Quoted message said:

    I guess not that long. You'll have to give me the short version. I
    read he got a couple shots of iron for anemia. More to it?

    Well, the statement was about talking about dope. If you plug those
    keywords into google groups you will find lots of talk about dope.

    I suppose you could plug just about any pro cyclist's name into
    google groups and find talk about dope.

    Bob Schwartz
    [email hidden]

    Google.com
    Results 1 - 10 of about 230 for "bob schwartz" dope. (0.28 seconds)

    You really set yourself up for that one Bob. Pro or not ;-)

    Them's just jokes.

    D

  17. "David Ferguson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 18:25:17 -0000, Bob Schwartz <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    David Ferguson said:

    On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 18:44:50 -0000, Bob Schwartz <[email hidden]>
    wrote:

    Quoted message said:

    >David Ferguson <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >> If he would have done that now, with the TT he put on Fignon... people
    >> would be talking about dope.
    >
    >Haven't been around here long, have you?
    >
    >Bob Schwartz
    >[email hidden]
    >
    >Google keywords: Lemond, iron, shot

    Quoted message said:

    I guess not that long. You'll have to give me the short version. I
    read he got a couple shots of iron for anemia. More to it?

    Well, the statement was about talking about dope. If you plug those
    keywords into google groups you will find lots of talk about dope.

    I suppose you could plug just about any pro cyclist's name into
    google groups and find talk about dope.

    Bob Schwartz
    [email hidden]

    Google.com
    Results 1 - 10 of about 230 for "bob schwartz" dope. (0.28 seconds)

    You really set yourself up for that one Bob. Pro or not ;-)

    Them's just jokes.

    Yeah, but are those hits about Bob taking dope or being one?

  18. Tom Kunich said:

    "David Ferguson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 18:25:17 -0000, Bob Schwartz <[email hidden]>
    wrote:

    Google.com
    Results 1 - 10 of about 230 for "bob schwartz" dope. (0.28 seconds)

    You really set yourself up for that one Bob. Pro or not ;-)

    Them's just jokes.

    Quoted message said:

    Yeah, but are those hits about Bob taking dope or being one?

    Google.com
    Results 1 - 10 of 235 for kunich [censored] (0.21 seconds)

    Bob Schwartz
    [email hidden]

  19. Bob Schwartz said:


    Google.com
    Results 1 - 10 of 235 for kunich [censored] (0.21 seconds)

    Bob Schwartz
    [email hidden]

    POTM?

  20. Quoted message said:

    POTM?

    SmartassReplyOTM, if anything. POTM should be cycling related.

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