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  1. Hi,

    I saw an article in my local paper recently that listed the types of
    exercises and the amount of calories they burn in an hour. 'High Resistance
    aerobics' was first, and weights were second: far above treadmill and bike
    work.

    I did my cardio days (20 mins walk, 20 bike, 20 low-impact stepper) on the
    assumption that it was the best way to burn fat. Is what I'm doing less
    effective than weight days for losing weight (fat)? I will still have to
    have cardio days to split the weight days, but should I consider changing
    the format of my days, perhaps doing an hour on the stepper instead of 3x20
    minutes on different machines?

    Thanks for any help,
    - WJ

  2. Quoted message said:

    I did my cardio days (20 mins walk, 20 bike, 20 low-impact stepper) on the


    assumption that it was the best way to burn fat.>

    That is not for fat burning, it's for cardio conditioning. The very
    best fat burning exercise is 1 hour of jogging, at a very slow pace.
    In this mode your body will burn more calories per hour 24/7, instead
    of just for the 20 minutes you did cardio. Even while asleep you'll
    burn more cals per hour. Take it from a 400lb man who fights to stay in
    a 200lb body, this works, and for me at least nothing else is nearly as
    effective.

  3. In article <[email hidden]>,

    WalkingJohnny said:

    Hi,

    I saw an article in my local paper recently that listed the types of
    exercises and the amount of calories they burn in an hour. 'High Resistance
    aerobics' was first, and weights were second: far above treadmill and bike
    work.

    Of course. More effort/min. = more energy consumed per minute.
    However: I don't know about you, but *I* can't lift weights for 30
    minutes or more w/o a break.

    Quoted message said:


    I did my cardio days (20 mins walk, 20 bike, 20 low-impact stepper) on the
    assumption that it was the best way to burn fat.

    Define "best." One argument is that aerobic/cardio workout below
    your anaerobic threshold is the "best" way. (That's what I
    originally learned.) Another is that high-intensity interval
    training is the "best" way. Yet another is that building muscle mass
    is the "best" way. In truth: Probably the "best" way is what works
    for you. For me: That's all three. I do full-body workouts,
    followed by at least 30 minutes of cardio, three times a week. One
    day a week that cardio is HIIT. Why only one day of HIIT? One
    article I read suggested that high-intensity cardio is
    counter-productive to muscle gain. So I compromise by doing it only
    once-a-week.

    A week-ago-Saturday I went wild. After doing pyramids on strength-
    training, I did 10 minutes at AT cardio on each of all five machines
    🙂. (Treadmill, stepper, rowing, upright stationary bike,
    elliptical.) It's good to mix things up on occasion.

    Quoted message said:

    Is what I'm doing less
    effective than weight days for losing weight (fat)?

    IIRC, somebody not long ago pointed me to an article that said
    "low-intensity" cardio results in elevated energy consumption for
    about 1/2-hour following the work-out, whereas HIIT results in
    elevated energy consumption for up to six hours. Muscles continue
    consuming (more) energy (than fat) indefinitely.

    Quoted message said:

    I will still have to
    have cardio days to split the weight days, but should I consider changing
    the format of my days, perhaps doing an hour on the stepper instead of 3x20
    minutes on different machines?

    I do 30 minutes of cardio as 10 minutes on each of three out of five
    machines. Some argue it's better to do a continuous work-out on a
    single machine than to interrupt it by switching machines. I like to
    vary the workout and switching machines helps avoid boredom. I
    figure it's better to have a sub-optimal work-out than stop entirely
    😉. I do move from machine-to-machine as quickly as possible. As
    often as not, my heart rate is actually higher, when I get to the
    next machine, than it was when I left the previous machine.

    Quoted message said:


    Thanks for any help,

    You're welcome. Be advised that I'm no expert, by far, in these
    things. Surely somebody far more qualified than I (not difficult)
    will come along with better and more accurate information. They
    usually do 🙂.

    --
    Jim Seymour | "It is wrong always, everywhere and
    WARNING: The "From:" address is a | for everyone to believe anything upon
    spam trap. DON'T USE IT! Use: | insufficient evidence."
    [email hidden] | - W. K. Clifford, ca. 1876

  4. Quoted message said:

    Of course. More effort/min. = more energy consumed per minute.


    However: I don't know about you, but *I* can't lift weights for 30
    minutes or more w/o a break.>

    Glad this was at the beginning of his post, that way I know he must be
    a punk, and there's no sense reading the rest of his lengthy [censored]. I
    lift for 1.5 hours every other day, without a break. Then I run 6 to 9
    miles after, and run 9 on my rest (from weights) day.

  5. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Of course. More effort/min. = more energy consumed per minute.

    However: I don't know about you, but *I* can't lift weights for 30
    minutes or more w/o a break.>

    Glad this was at the beginning of his post, that way I know he must be
    a punk, and there's no sense reading the rest of his lengthy [censored]. I
    lift for 1.5 hours every other day, without a break.

    You do one set of one exercise for 90 minutes? What is that, a thousand reps?

    Most people do multiple sets of multiple exercises; hence, breaks.

    Quoted message said:

    Then I run 6 to 9
    miles after, and run 9 on my rest (from weights) day.

  6. Quoted message said:

    You do one set of one exercise for 90 minutes? What is that, a thousand reps?

    Most people do multiple sets of multiple exercises; hence, breaks.>

    What are you, stupid? My total body WO is 60 to 90 minutes with no
    rest. I go from one exercise to the next quickly to keep it aerobic.

  7. <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    You do one set of one exercise for 90 minutes? What is that, a thousand
    reps?

    Most people do multiple sets of multiple exercises; hence, breaks.>

    What are you, stupid? My total body WO is 60 to 90 minutes with no
    rest. I go from one exercise to the next quickly to keep it aerobic.

    So it's like the circuit training protocol in a chick gym?

  8. Quoted message said:

    So it's like the circuit training protocol in a chick gym?>

    What RU, some kind of idio... Oh wait, that's me.

    Rick The Idiot.

  9. Quoted message said:

    So it's like the circuit training protocol in a chick gym?>

    ALL gyms are full of [censored]. I went to one, but after the roid crowd got
    done looking at my ass in the locker room, I decided I liked free
    weights at home better. So as far asc "chics gyms" go, you tell me.

  10. <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    So it's like the circuit training protocol in a chick gym?>

    ALL gyms are full of [censored]. I went to one, but after the roid crowd got
    done looking at my ass in the locker room, I decided I liked free
    weights at home better. So as far asc "chics gyms" go, you tell me.


    You meant to say after they got done doing your ass - not looking at it

  11. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    You do one set of one exercise for 90 minutes? What is that, a thousand reps?

    Most people do multiple sets of multiple exercises; hence, breaks.>

    What are you, stupid? My total body WO is 60 to 90 minutes with no
    rest. I go from one exercise to the next quickly to keep it aerobic.

    Because I think that going from one exercise to the next constitutes a break and
    you don't?

    Yeah, *I* must be stupid.

    Circuit or 90 exercises? Machines or barbells?

  12. T said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    You do one set of one exercise for 90 minutes? What is that, a thousand reps?

    Most people do multiple sets of multiple exercises; hence, breaks.>

    What are you, stupid? My total body WO is 60 to 90 minutes with no
    rest. I go from one exercise to the next quickly to keep it aerobic.

    Because I think that going from one exercise to the next constitutes a break and
    you don't?

    Yeah, *I* must be stupid.

    Circuit or 90 exercises? Machines or barbells?

    None of the above. It's trolling. Let me make it simple for you ...

    Ignore the username and look for the following header:

    NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.31.203.8

    It means "troll." It might also be effective as a killfile string,
    though I haven't tried it.

    --

    JMW
    http://www.rustyiron.net

  13. T said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Of course. More effort/min. = more energy consumed per minute.

    However: I don't know about you, but *I* can't lift weights for 30
    minutes or more w/o a break.>

    Glad this was at the beginning of his post, that way I know he must
    be a punk, and there's no sense reading the rest of his lengthy
    [censored]. I lift for 1.5 hours every other day, without a break.

    You do one set of one exercise for 90 minutes? What is that, a
    thousand reps?

    1000 reps in 90' = 11 seconds per rep, very slow pace. 1000 in 30' is a bit
    more sensible, though I've never done that with weights (bodyweight squats,
    yes).

    Not the the grandparent meant that, of course.

    Peter


  14. Quoted message said:

    NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.31.203.8

    It means "troll." It might also be effective as a killfile string,
    though I haven't tried it.

    --


    Absolutely correct there Jim...66.31.203.8 is his troll IP address ..in
    every posting of his...plus his "gmail.com" domain name. he frequently
    changes his nickname, but the gmail.com is the easiest give-away to spot....

    Quoted message said:

    JMW
    http://www.rustyiron.net

  15. Peter Allen said:
    T said:
    Quoted message said:

    >Of course. More effort/min. = more energy consumed per minute.

    However: I don't know about you, but *I* can't lift weights for 30
    minutes or more w/o a break.>

    Glad this was at the beginning of his post, that way I know he must
    be a punk, and there's no sense reading the rest of his lengthy
    [censored]. I lift for 1.5 hours every other day, without a break.

    You do one set of one exercise for 90 minutes? What is that, a
    thousand reps?

    1000 reps in 90' = 11 seconds per rep, very slow pace. 1000 in 30' is a bit
    more sensible, though I've never done that with weights (bodyweight squats,
    yes).

    Not the the grandparent meant that, of course.

    Peter

    1000 reps in 90 minutes is eleven (point one bar) reps per minute, roughly 5
    seconds per rep.

  16. Peter Allen said:
    T said:
    Quoted message said:

    >Of course. More effort/min. = more energy consumed per minute.

    However: I don't know about you, but *I* can't lift weights for 30
    minutes or more w/o a break.>

    Glad this was at the beginning of his post, that way I know he must
    be a punk, and there's no sense reading the rest of his lengthy
    [censored]. I lift for 1.5 hours every other day, without a break.

    You do one set of one exercise for 90 minutes? What is that, a
    thousand reps?

    1000 reps in 90' = 11 seconds per rep, very slow pace. 1000 in 30' is a bit
    more sensible, though I've never done that with weights (bodyweight squats,
    yes).

    Not the the grandparent meant that, of course.

    Peter

    1000 reps in 90 minutes is eleven (point one bar) reps per minute, roughly 5
    seconds per rep.

  17. Quoted message said:

    You meant to say after they got done doing your ass>

    You're the one thinking about it.

  18. Quoted message said:

    Yeah, *I* must be stupid.>

    We're coming closer to agreeing every minute.

  19. Quoted message said:

    Ignore the username and look for the following header:

    NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.31.203.8>

    Thanks for the tip. I'll change it pronto. I got this handy little prog
    here....

  20. Quoted message said:

    Absolutely correct there Jim...66.31.203.8 is his troll IP address ..in


    every posting of his...plus his "gmail.com" domain name. he frequently
    changes his nickname, but the gmail.com is the easiest give-away to
    spot....>

    Yeah, that'll work for you LOLOLOL

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