Quoted message said:1000 reps in 90' = 11 seconds per rep, very slow pace. 1000 in 30' is a bit
more sensible, though I've never done that with weights (bodyweight
squats,
yes).>
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Quoted message said:1000 reps in 90' = 11 seconds per rep, very slow pace. 1000 in 30' is a bit
more sensible, though I've never done that with weights (bodyweight
squats,
yes).>
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Quoted message said:Quoted message said:1000 reps in 90' = 11 seconds per rep, very slow pace. 1000 in 30' is a
bit
Quoted message said:more sensible, though I've never done that with weights (bodyweight
squats,
yes).>Stupidass.
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WalkingJohnny said:I saw an article in my local paper recently that listed the types of
exercises and the amount of calories they burn in an hour. 'High Resistance
aerobics' was first, and weights were second: far above treadmill and bike
work.
What were the actual numbers ? "Treadmill work" can mean lots of things, but
good luck burning 1000 calories per hour or more doing weights (not that hard
to do on a treadmill or elliptical)
To burn a high number of calories, you need a high sustained power output, and
the easiest way to produce a lot of power for a long time is to mobilise the
larger muscle masses (the ones that are capable of producing a lot of power)
at a submaximal effort (so they can *sustain* that output). That usually means
doing some sort of aerobic exercise that involves the glutes, quads, and hams.
Running, the elliptical, and rowing machine are good choices.
Quoted message said:I did my cardio days (20 mins walk, 20 bike, 20 low-impact stepper) on the
assumption that it was the best way to burn fat.
Well maybe, except if you're only walking, and strolling up the stepper,
you're probably not working all that hard. If you're walking, do it up a steep
incline, and check your heart rate. You should be near the top of the
so-called "cardio zone" (forget about the "fat burning zone" nonsense)
Quoted message said:Is what I'm doing less
effective than weight days for losing weight (fat)? I will still have to
have cardio days to split the weight days, but should I consider changing
the format of my days, perhaps doing an hour on the stepper instead of 3x20
minutes on different machines?
The variety may actually make it mentally easier to push the pace on the
different exercises. But you've got to be prepared to do that. A mile only
burns about 150 calories for someone who weighs in at 200lb, so if you only
go one mile in those 20 minutes, you're not going to burn a whole lot, but
if you run it and go 2 miles (which still only requires a modest pace--
10min/mile), you're in the right territory (~900cal/hr or so for a 200lb
runner. If you're lighter, you should be able to run faster!)
Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi
http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:I did my cardio days (20 mins walk, 20 bike, 20 low-impact stepper)
on the
assumption that it was the best way to burn fat.>That is not for fat burning, it's for cardio conditioning. The very
best fat burning exercise is 1 hour of jogging, at a very slow pace.
In this mode your body will burn more calories per hour 24/7, instead
of just for the 20 minutes you did cardio. Even while asleep you'll
burn more cals per hour. Take it from a 400lb man who fights to stay
in a 200lb body, this works, and for me at least nothing else is
nearly as effective.
Then cite a study listing the post WO calorie burn for running.
Lyle once said it was 10% - 15% over then next 24 hrs, which isn't
substantial. If you burned 400 cal on the treadmill, you'd only burn an
additional 40-60 later. Weight lifting, OTOH, burns much more post WO.
According to Lyle that is. And he isn't here anymore, so who knows. And
I'm too lazy to try to find it myself.
My most effective "leaning out" was when I cut back on cardio and focused on
weights and diet.
--
-Larry
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:I did my cardio days (20 mins walk, 20 bike, 20 low-impact stepper)
on the
assumption that it was the best way to burn fat.>That is not for fat burning, it's for cardio conditioning. The very
best fat burning exercise is 1 hour of jogging, at a very slow pace.
In this mode your body will burn more calories per hour 24/7, instead
of just for the 20 minutes you did cardio. Even while asleep you'll
burn more cals per hour. Take it from a 400lb man who fights to stay
in a 200lb body, this works, and for me at least nothing else is
nearly as effective.
Then cite a study listing the post WO calorie burn for running.
Lyle once said it was 10% - 15% over then next 24 hrs, which isn't
substantial. If you burned 400 cal on the treadmill, you'd only burn an
additional 40-60 later. Weight lifting, OTOH, burns much more post WO.
According to Lyle that is. And he isn't here anymore, so who knows. And
I'm too lazy to try to find it myself.
My most effective "leaning out" was when I cut back on cardio and focused on
weights and diet.
--
-Larry
Dnia 2005-06-26 WalkingJohnny napisa³(a):
Quoted message said:Hi,
I saw an article in my local paper recently that listed the types of
exercises and the amount of calories they burn in an hour. 'High Resistance
aerobics' was first, and weights were second: far above treadmill and bike
work.I did my cardio days (20 mins walk, 20 bike, 20 low-impact stepper) on the
assumption that it was the best way to burn fat. Is what I'm doing less
effective than weight days for losing weight (fat)?
Yes.
Quoted message said:I will still have to
have cardio days to split the weight days,
Not necessarily. You may work out with weights up to 7 days per week.
Just split your routine accordingly into something like 3 days.
For fat loss chose exercises which have high power output. Like for
example doing dumbbell snatches is better than wrist curls or triceps
kickbacks. For cardiovascular conditioning do not rest long between
sets. Keep your heart rate high and you will have both cardio and
weights training at the same time.
Quoted message said:but should I consider changing
the format of my days, perhaps doing an hour on the stepper instead of 3x20
minutes on different machines?
I believe in running and bicycling. Real running and real bicycling.
Quoted message said:Thanks for any help,
Sample routine of this kind of training would look something like this:
Power [censored].
Military press.
Power curl.
Some row.
Could be done with both dumbbells or barbells. Several sets with the
same weight. No more than two minutes between sets.
Or something like this:
Dips supersetted with pullups.
Overhead press supersetted with step ups.
You got the picture, I guess.
--
Andrzej Rosa 1127R
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