Why????

Quoted message said:

Why to very large overwieght riders find it mandatory to wear tight
fitting bicylcle shirts/shorts? Do they think other people want to see
that? I see more 250lbs+ riders trying to cram into way too small of
riding gear. For what? This has to stop.

Let me be the first to jump in and ignore your post....

Neil Brooks said:

Quoted message said:

Why to very large overwieght riders find it mandatory to wear tight
fitting bicylcle shirts/shorts? Do they think other people want to see
that? I see more 250lbs+ riders trying to cram into way too small of
riding gear. For what? This has to stop.

Let me be the first to jump in and ignore your post....

You failed miserably.

Joe Canuck [email protected] said:

Neil Brooks said:

Quoted message said:

Why to very large overwieght riders find it mandatory to wear tight
fitting bicylcle shirts/shorts? Do they think other people want to see
that? I see more 250lbs+ riders trying to cram into way too small of
riding gear. For what? This has to stop.

Let me be the first to jump in and ignore your post....

You failed miserably.

"A" for effort? ;-)

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Quoted message said:

Why to very large overwieght riders find it mandatory to wear tight
fitting bicylcle shirts/shorts? Do they think other people want to see
that? I see more 250lbs+ riders trying to cram into way too small of
riding gear. For what? This has to stop.

I've yet to see anyone who looks good in cycling shorts. Well, there's this
one female triathlete I see out raining every now and then, but she's the
very rare exception.

--
Bob C.

"Of course it hurts. The trick is not minding that it hurts."
T. E. Lawrence (of Arabia)

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Quoted message said:

Why to very large overwieght riders find it mandatory to wear tight
fitting bicylcle shirts/shorts? Do they think other people want to see
that? I see more 250lbs+ riders trying to cram into way too small of
riding gear. For what? This has to stop.

I've yet to see anyone who looks good in cycling shorts. Well, there's
this one female triathlete I see out raining every now and then, but she's
the very rare exception.

Rare indeed. I assume the shorts are waterproof 🙂

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I've yet to see anyone who looks good in cycling shorts. Well, there's this

one female triathlete I see out raining every now and then, but she's the
very rare exception.

Time for you to move out of Hicksville.

Fabrizio Mazzoleni said:

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Quoted message said:

I've yet to see anyone who looks good in cycling shorts. Well, there's this

one female triathlete I see out raining every now and then, but she's the
very rare exception.

Time for you to move out of Hicksville.

Out here in Joisey, people who wear lycra spandex (especially men) are
looked at in a strange way......but we won't get into that again.

Seeing fat people in lycra is never a pretty sight. A nice looking,
fit guy in lycra is ok by me. I go to the ballet just to see guys in
tights. ;-) Abd I am sure men love to see sexy young things in lycra.
Or anything skimpy. Reger back to Claire's pic.

Maggie

Maggie said:

Fabrizio Mazzoleni said:

"psycholist" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

> I've yet to see anyone who looks good in cycling shorts. Well, there's this
one female triathlete I see out raining every now and then, but she's the
very rare exception.

Time for you to move out of Hicksville.

Out here in Joisey, people who wear lycra spandex (especially men) are
looked at in a strange way......but we won't get into that again.

Didn't you say that there aren't any/many 'people who wear lycra and
spandex' in Joisey where you are. So I have to ask, how do you -know-
they're looked at in a 'strange way'? Have you really asked the men in
Joisey if they think 'homoerotic thoughts' or feel 'gay panic' when they
see a male cyclist in lycra-spandex, LOL?

Why not be more truthful.

There are people like to put down other people - and they don't have the
courage to say why, or even to examine their beliefs. They ascribe the
thoughts to the culture around them and thus avoid any personal
consequences or self-examination.

Maybe such people chicken out and offer veiled threats and blame other
'Joisey-ites' to cover up their own prejudice - they can't be as overtly
prejudicial as they'd like, perhaps, because of their image, say as a '60s
hippie' - typically an unconventional person who accepts all different
kinds of people, faiths, creeds and cultures.

The truth may be that those people get a payoff of some kind out of putting
other people down. The sorry part of that is often this is projection.

But such a person is really only hurting themself.

If one has a majority of negative, judgemental, or defeatist thoughts in
their internal dialogue, these are going to work against one's attempts to
use healthful activities like 'riding your bike' to obtain joy and
enlightenment. (negative thoughts suppress the immune system, for instance)

This, I think, is what Roger was trying to say the other day.

Maybe this offers some visibility, maybe it doesn't. An unexamined life and
all that...

Quoted message said:

Seeing fat people in lycra is never a pretty sight. A nice looking,
fit guy in lycra is ok by me.

Hah, pretty clever. Easy to say that, but when with friends initiate
pointing them out and starting the ridicule! More important to maintain the
snobbery than to support a group of people one now knows to be pretty nice
and who are trying to better their health and for whom the lycra and
spandex wearing is totally related to the athletic use. Why not explain to
those friends what the lycra really means and how there's really no reason
to either ridicule its use or to feel threatened by those wearing it?

Quoted message said:

I go to the ballet just to see guys in tights. ;-)

Now that's creepy. Have you ever actually been to a balletic opera, or are
you talking about going down to the ballet school and peering in the
windows? So you don't think that guys who dance in tights are gay?

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Abd I am sure men love to see sexy young things in lycra.
Or anything skimpy. Reger back to Claire's pic.

Ah, clever. So men are all about oogling, huh? Men are earthy and so it's
ok for you to be because you have all these other sterling qualities that
they lack? <g>

jj

Quoted message said:

Maggie

jj said:

Maggie said:

Fabrizio Mazzoleni said:

"psycholist" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
>> I've yet to see anyone who looks good in cycling shorts. Well, there's this
> one female triathlete I see out raining every now and then, but she's the
> very rare exception.

Time for you to move out of Hicksville.

Out here in Joisey, people who wear lycra spandex (especially men) are
looked at in a strange way......but we won't get into that again.

Didn't you say that there aren't any/many 'people who wear lycra and
spandex' in Joisey where you are. So I have to ask, how do you -know-
they're looked at in a 'strange way'? Have you really asked the men in
Joisey if they think 'homoerotic thoughts' or feel 'gay panic' when they
see a male cyclist in lycra-spandex, LOL?

Why not be more truthful.

There are people like to put down other people - and they don't have the
courage to say why, or even to examine their beliefs. They ascribe the
thoughts to the culture around them and thus avoid any personal
consequences or self-examination.

Maybe such people chicken out and offer veiled threats and blame other
'Joisey-ites' to cover up their own prejudice - they can't be as overtly
prejudicial as they'd like, perhaps, because of their image, say as a '60s
hippie' - typically an unconventional person who accepts all different
kinds of people, faiths, creeds and cultures.

The truth may be that those people get a payoff of some kind out of putting
other people down. The sorry part of that is often this is projection.

But such a person is really only hurting themself.

If one has a majority of negative, judgemental, or defeatist thoughts in
their internal dialogue, these are going to work against one's attempts to
use healthful activities like 'riding your bike' to obtain joy and
enlightenment. (negative thoughts suppress the immune system, for instance)

This, I think, is what Roger was trying to say the other day.

Maybe this offers some visibility, maybe it doesn't. An unexamined life and
all that...

Quoted message said:

Seeing fat people in lycra is never a pretty sight. A nice looking,
fit guy in lycra is ok by me.

Hah, pretty clever. Easy to say that, but when with friends initiate
pointing them out and starting the ridicule! More important to maintain the
snobbery than to support a group of people one now knows to be pretty nice
and who are trying to better their health and for whom the lycra and
spandex wearing is totally related to the athletic use. Why not explain to
those friends what the lycra really means and how there's really no reason
to either ridicule its use or to feel threatened by those wearing it?

Quoted message said:

I go to the ballet just to see guys in tights. ;-)

Now that's creepy. Have you ever actually been to a balletic opera, or are
you talking about going down to the ballet school and peering in the
windows? So you don't think that guys who dance in tights are gay?

Quoted message said:

Abd I am sure men love to see sexy young things in lycra.
Or anything skimpy. Reger back to Claire's pic.

Ah, clever. So men are all about oogling, huh? Men are earthy and so it's
ok for you to be because you have all these other sterling qualities that
they lack? <g>

jj

Quoted message said:

Maggie

Could you do me a big favor and kilfile me?

Maggie

Maggie said:

jj said:

Maggie said:

Fabrizio Mazzoleni wrote:
> "psycholist" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
> >> I've yet to see anyone who looks good in cycling shorts. Well, there's this
> > one female triathlete I see out raining every now and then, but she's the
> > very rare exception.
>
> Time for you to move out of Hicksville.

Out here in Joisey, people who wear lycra spandex (especially men) are
looked at in a strange way......but we won't get into that again.

Didn't you say that there aren't any/many 'people who wear lycra and
spandex' in Joisey where you are. So I have to ask, how do you -know-
they're looked at in a 'strange way'? Have you really asked the men in
Joisey if they think 'homoerotic thoughts' or feel 'gay panic' when they
see a male cyclist in lycra-spandex, LOL?

Why not be more truthful.

There are people like to put down other people - and they don't have the
courage to say why, or even to examine their beliefs. They ascribe the
thoughts to the culture around them and thus avoid any personal
consequences or self-examination.

Maybe such people chicken out and offer veiled threats and blame other
'Joisey-ites' to cover up their own prejudice - they can't be as overtly
prejudicial as they'd like, perhaps, because of their image, say as a '60s
hippie' - typically an unconventional person who accepts all different
kinds of people, faiths, creeds and cultures.

The truth may be that those people get a payoff of some kind out of putting
other people down. The sorry part of that is often this is projection.

But such a person is really only hurting themself.

If one has a majority of negative, judgemental, or defeatist thoughts in
their internal dialogue, these are going to work against one's attempts to
use healthful activities like 'riding your bike' to obtain joy and
enlightenment. (negative thoughts suppress the immune system, for instance)

This, I think, is what Roger was trying to say the other day.

Maybe this offers some visibility, maybe it doesn't. An unexamined life and
all that...

Quoted message said:

Seeing fat people in lycra is never a pretty sight. A nice looking,
fit guy in lycra is ok by me.

Hah, pretty clever. Easy to say that, but when with friends initiate
pointing them out and starting the ridicule! More important to maintain the
snobbery than to support a group of people one now knows to be pretty nice
and who are trying to better their health and for whom the lycra and
spandex wearing is totally related to the athletic use. Why not explain to
those friends what the lycra really means and how there's really no reason
to either ridicule its use or to feel threatened by those wearing it?

Quoted message said:

I go to the ballet just to see guys in tights. ;-)

Now that's creepy. Have you ever actually been to a balletic opera, or are
you talking about going down to the ballet school and peering in the
windows? So you don't think that guys who dance in tights are gay?

Quoted message said:

Abd I am sure men love to see sexy young things in lycra.
Or anything skimpy. Reger back to Claire's pic.

Ah, clever. So men are all about oogling, huh? Men are earthy and so it's
ok for you to be because you have all these other sterling qualities that
they lack? <g>

jj

Quoted message said:

Maggie

Could you do me a big favor and kilfile me?

Maggie

How about every time you make untrue and unwarrented negative comments
about cyclists and their outfits I call you on it? ;-)

jj

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Fabrizio Mazzoleni said:

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> I've yet to see anyone who looks good in cycling shorts. Well,
> there's this
one female triathlete I see out raining every now and then, but she's
the
very rare exception.

Time for you to move out of Hicksville.

Out here in Joisey, people who wear lycra spandex (especially men) are
looked at in a strange way......but we won't get into that again.

<SNIP>
You have no idea what people in New Jersey think. You are projecting your
own narrow minded thoughts onto society in general.

Frank Drackman said:

You have no idea what people in New Jersey think. You are projecting your
own narrow minded thoughts onto society in general.

OK. Thank you for that insight. I will work on it. xx ;-)

Air kisses,
Maggie

Frank Drackman said:

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Fabrizio Mazzoleni said:

"psycholist" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>> I've yet to see anyone who looks good in cycling shorts. Well,
>> there's this
> one female triathlete I see out raining every now and then, but she's
> the
> very rare exception.

Time for you to move out of Hicksville.

Out here in Joisey, people who wear lycra spandex (especially men) are
looked at in a strange way......but we won't get into that again.

<SNIP>
You have no idea what people in New Jersey think. You are projecting your
own narrow minded thoughts onto society in general.

Certain posters seem to have only a couple thoughts, so you have to give
them a break if they seem 'narrow minded'. They are actually able to look
through a keyhole with both eyes, if you want to know. That might be a
feature, not a bug, lol.

j

: >Could you do me a big favor and kilfile me?
: >
: >Maggie
:
: How about every time you make untrue and unwarrented negative comments
: about cyclists and their outfits I call you on it? ;-)
:
: jj

Here's my take on it:
"I live in Jersey. I think people in lycra are funny looking. Therefore,
everyone in Jersey thinks this way. Thus, my thinking is normative for
Jersey."

It's parochialism masquerading as the "normal way of thinking".

Pat in TX

Pat said:

: >Could you do me a big favor and kilfile me?
: >
: >Maggie
:
: How about every time you make untrue and unwarrented negative comments
: about cyclists and their outfits I call you on it? ;-)
:
: jj

Here's my take on it:
"I live in Jersey. I think people in lycra are funny looking. Therefore,
everyone in Jersey thinks this way. Thus, my thinking is normative for
Jersey."

It's parochialism masquerading as the "normal way of thinking".

Pat in TX

I was wondering when Pat in TX would appear. You never let me down
girlfriend. ;-)

Maggie.

Quoted message said:

Why to very large overwieght riders find it mandatory to wear tight
fitting bicylcle shirts/shorts? Do they think other people want to see
that? I see more 250lbs+ riders trying to cram into way too small of
riding gear. For what? This has to stop.

As a formerly large person, I would suggest that tight fitting clothing
helps prevent chafing. Comfort is much more important than how it looks
to other people. It is also really annoying having to replace expensive
clothing with the same thing in a smaller size.

Pam

On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 17:10:18 -0400, pam_in_sc <[email hidden]>

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It is also really annoying having to replace expensive
clothing with the same thing in a smaller size.

I can say with some confidence that it is likely to be much less
annoying than replacing it with the same thing in a *larger* size :-)

Guy
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Quoted message said:

Why to very large overwieght riders find it mandatory to wear tight
fitting bicylcle shirts/shorts?

Maybe they have trouble finding stuff that actually fits --
stuff actually made for their size?

Large people have as much right to wear sweat-wicking jerseys
and shorts with a chamois in 'em, as anyone else.

Quoted message said:

Do they think other people want to see
that? I see more 250lbs+ riders trying to cram into way too small of
riding gear. For what? This has to stop.

I think it's kewl to see people riding their bikes at all.
Even if they're wearing grotesque Hawaiian shirts, Burmuda
shorts, and Jesus boots & hockey socks. Even if they're
wearing powder blue leisure suits, or togas, or sarongs.

I certainly wouldn't want any "very large overweight riders"
to read this thread and suddenly feel too embarrassed or
self-conscious to ride, in whatever garb is comfortable for
them. I'd rather encourage 'em, 'cuz they're doin' good.

cheers,
Tom (5'11", 148 lbs, in case anyone's wondering)

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Fabrizio Mazzoleni said:

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Quoted message said:

I've yet to see anyone who looks good in cycling shorts. Well, there's this

one female triathlete I see out raining every now and then, but she's the
very rare exception.

Time for you to move out of Hicksville.

I agree... I see plenty of people who look good in shorts. Some of
those guys...oooh mama! However, there are few who can get away with a
skinsuit.