Why????

On Thu, 2 Jun 2005 16:59:54 -0700, [email hidden] (Tom Keats)

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Why to very large overwieght riders find it mandatory to wear tight
fitting bicylcle shirts/shorts?

Maybe they have trouble finding stuff that actually fits --
stuff actually made for their size?

Large people have as much right to wear sweat-wicking jerseys
and shorts with a chamois in 'em, as anyone else.

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Do they think other people want to see
that? I see more 250lbs+ riders trying to cram into way too small of
riding gear. For what? This has to stop.

I think it's kewl to see people riding their bikes at all.
Even if they're wearing grotesque Hawaiian shirts, Burmuda
shorts, and Jesus boots & hockey socks. Even if they're
wearing powder blue leisure suits, or togas, or sarongs.

I certainly wouldn't want any "very large overweight riders"
to read this thread and suddenly feel too embarrassed or
self-conscious to ride, in whatever garb is comfortable for
them. I'd rather encourage 'em, 'cuz they're doin' good.

cheers,
Tom (5'11", 148 lbs, in case anyone's wondering)

It's unfair, even if we may find it aesthetically imperfect. It's like
saying only skinny people should go to the gym, or wear swimsuits.
Let's face it, you're at the beach and want go go swimming, what are
you supposed to wear? And if heavy people are riding their bikes, all
to the good- at least they don't want to be another one of those
casualties of bad health!

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It's unfair, even if we may find it aesthetically imperfect. It's like
saying only skinny people should go to the gym, or wear swimsuits.
Let's face it, you're at the beach and want go go swimming, what are
you supposed to wear?

The one-button suit is most convenient.

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And if heavy people are riding their bikes, all
to the good- at least they don't want to be another one of those
casualties of bad health!

[yer] durn tootin'! And I don't even want anyone to
feel they should be deprived of the joys of cycling,
just because of their physicality or any other arbitrary
razmatazz. If they wanna ride, let 'em ride, I sez.
I sure ain't gonna bug 'em. I'll cheer 'em on.

cheers, & Jethro Tull: Stand Up: Fat Man (great tune, BTW)
Tom

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Tom Keats said:

[yer] durn tootin'! And I don't even want anyone to
feel they should be deprived of the joys of cycling,
just because of their physicality or any other arbitrary
razmatazz. If they wanna ride, let 'em ride, I sez.
I sure ain't gonna bug 'em. I'll cheer 'em on.

I agree. IMO, _everyone_ on a bike looks good.

- Frank Krygowski

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I agree... I see plenty of people who look good in shorts. Some of
those guys...oooh mama! However, there are few who can get away with a
skinsuit.

C'est moi, c'est moi!
I blush to disclose.
I'm far too noble to lie.

Having said that I'm sure there will be some that want to make
unwarranted and inaccurate assumptions about me because:
A- I know some of the lyrics from some Broadway musicals and
B- am comfortable wearing spandex
are free to do so. I couldn't care less. <g>

Regards,
Bob Hunt

Thu, 02 Jun 2005 22:11:16 -0400,
<[email hidden]>, [email hidden]

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> I've yet to see anyone who looks good in cycling shorts. Well, there's this
one female triathlete I see out raining every now and then, but she's the
very rare exception.

Time for you to move out of Hicksville.

I agree... I see plenty of people who look good in shorts. Some of
those guys...oooh mama! However, there are few who can get away with a
skinsuit.

No kiddin'. They're always saying how beautiful the women are in
Montreal and it's true. What they always forget to tell ya is the guys
are a whole lot better looking than you too.
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zk

2 Jun 2005 21:02:17 -0700,
<[email hidden]>, "Bob"

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I agree... I see plenty of people who look good in shorts. Some of
those guys...oooh mama! However, there are few who can get away with a
skinsuit.

C'est moi, c'est moi!
I blush to disclose.
I'm far too noble to lie.

Having said that I'm sure there will be some that want to make
unwarranted and inaccurate assumptions about me because:
A- I know some of the lyrics from some Broadway musicals and
B- am comfortable wearing spandex
are free to do so. I couldn't care less. <g>

Certain tunes from "West Side Story" may be acceptable. OTOH, "Cats"
will out you in an instant.

Sure, you might look great in a skinsuit but, can you sing?
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zk

Just zis Guy said:

On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 17:10:18 -0400, pam_in_sc <[email hidden]>

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It is also really annoying having to replace expensive
clothing with the same thing in a smaller size.

I can say with some confidence that it is likely to be much less
annoying than replacing it with the same thing in a *larger* size :-)

Guy

That depends on whose clothing is being replaced and how expensive it
is. If my lovely and adorable wife decides she needs to replace a $700
size 6 jacket I bought for her with an identical jacket in size 4 I am
*not* going to be any less annoyed. I might even tell her to gain some
weight. If OTOH, I wake up tomorrow and discover all my pants are an
inch too short I'd bite the bullet and buy a few pairs of jeans with
31" inseams. ;-)

Regards,
Bob Hunt

Maggie said:

Out here in Joisey, people who wear lycra spandex (especially men) are
looked at in a strange way......but we won't get into that again.

Seeing fat people in lycra is never a pretty sight. A nice looking,
fit guy in lycra is ok by me. I go to the ballet just to see guys in
tights. ;-) Abd I am sure men love to see sexy young things in lycra.
Or anything skimpy. Reger back to Claire's pic.

Maggie

How can you tell someone is not from Durango?
They look at you strangely as you walk into the Bean in your lycra, bike
jersey, and bike shoes. Everyone else asks you how your ride was and
what you did.

Living in rural, eastern Pa for way to long, I would agree in general
that lycra riding shorts are not all that often seen, certainly less
often than a fat-ass holding a sub sandwich.

Here in Durango, it is the out-of-shape, suit wearing, business man who
gets the strange looks, and I like it that way.

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Craig Brossman, Durango Colorado
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Out here in Joisey, people who wear lycra spandex (especially men) are
looked at in a strange way......but we won't get into that again.

if I recall correctly Maggie, you brought this up in the recent past and
then went on to realise that there's those football players who wear it all
the time, so it wasn't so strange after all ;-)

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Seeing fat people in lycra is never a pretty sight. A nice looking,
fit guy in lycra is ok by me. I go to the ballet just to see guys in
tights. ;-) Abd I am sure men love to see sexy young things in lycra.
Or anything skimpy. Reger back to Claire's pic.

A lot of those football players in Lycra aren't exactly slim ;-)

Cheers, helen s

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Maggie

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I agree... I see plenty of people who look good in shorts. Some of
those guys...oooh mama! However, there are few who can get away with a
skinsuit.

The sight of a well-honed male rear-end in close fitting Lycra can truly be
one of the seven wonders of the world ;-)

Cheers, helen s

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On Thu, 2 Jun 2005 16:59:54 -0700, [email hidden] (Tom Keats)

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Quoted message said:

Why to very large overwieght riders find it mandatory to wear tight
fitting bicylcle shirts/shorts?

Maybe they have trouble finding stuff that actually fits --
stuff actually made for their size?

Large people have as much right to wear sweat-wicking jerseys
and shorts with a chamois in 'em, as anyone else.

Quoted message said:

Do they think other people want to see
that? I see more 250lbs+ riders trying to cram into way too small of
riding gear. For what? This has to stop.

I think it's kewl to see people riding their bikes at all.
Even if they're wearing grotesque Hawaiian shirts, Burmuda
shorts, and Jesus boots & hockey socks. Even if they're
wearing powder blue leisure suits, or togas, or sarongs.

I certainly wouldn't want any "very large overweight riders"
to read this thread and suddenly feel too embarrassed or
self-conscious to ride, in whatever garb is comfortable for
them. I'd rather encourage 'em, 'cuz they're doin' good.

cheers,
Tom (5'11", 148 lbs, in case anyone's wondering)

It's unfair, even if we may find it aesthetically imperfect. It's like
saying only skinny people should go to the gym, or wear swimsuits.
Let's face it, you're at the beach and want go go swimming, what are
you supposed to wear? And if heavy people are riding their bikes, all
to the good- at least they don't want to be another one of those
casualties of bad health!

Tom Keats said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Bob said:

Having said that I'm sure there will be some that want to make
unwarranted and inaccurate assumptions about me because:
A- I know some of the lyrics from some Broadway musicals and

Don't feel too bad. I edetically recall the lyrics to
a bunch of torch songs. And I don't even particularly
like torch songs. It's kind of a bummer when you're
riding along, wanting to burst forth a gusto rendition
of some lively Willie Dixon tune, and all that comes out
is "Polka Dots and Moonbeams", or "All of Me".

cheers,
Tom

As I said, I don't really care what others may think of me so I don't
feel badly at all but thanks. I whistle occasionally but seldom sing
while riding. When I do it's invariably Queen's "Bicycle Song" simply
because it is so apropos.

Regards,
Bob Hunt

In article <[email hidden]>,

Bob said:

As I said, I don't really care what others may think of me so I don't

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

That's symptomatic in many recumbent riders ;-)

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feel badly at all but thanks. I whistle occasionally but seldom sing
while riding. When I do it's invariably Queen's "Bicycle Song" simply
because it is so apropos.

cheers,
Tom

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I whistle occasionally but seldom sing
while riding.

Man, I sing all the time when I ride. But then again, I'm someone that has
background music playing all the time in the back of my head, if I pay
attention to it, so it isn't that surprising that it leaks out occasionally.

It's not such a big thing if I'm riding along by myself on an empty trail,
but it begins to feel conspicious if I am singing while riding on crowded
downtown streets.

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Claire Petersky said:

Bob wrote in message
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I whistle occasionally but seldom sing
while riding.

Man, I sing all the time when I ride. But then again, I'm someone that has
background music playing all the time in the back of my head, if I pay
attention to it, so it isn't that surprising that it leaks out occasionally.

It's not such a big thing if I'm riding along by myself on an empty trail,
but it begins to feel conspicious if I am singing while riding on crowded
downtown streets.

With all the rhythmic inputs generated by riding, it's
hardly surprising one would experience the occasional
urge to belt out a number.

Cycling and song seem to go hand-in-glove. One notable
example of this is among the Critical Mass folx, where
their tunes are quite upbeat and joyous, which rather
puts the lie to the dour, negative-energy "protestor"
image so many people have of them. I'd like to render
Neil Young's "Downtown" into a Critical Mass anthem
for 'em.

cheers,
Tom

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Fabrizio Mazzoleni said:

You're going to have to take this over to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent.

By "this" you mean Bob, right?

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Claire Petersky said:

Bob wrote in message
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I whistle occasionally but seldom sing while riding.

Man, I sing all the time when I ride. But then again, I'm someone that has
background music playing all the time in the back of my head, if I pay
attention to it, so it isn't that surprising that it leaks out occasionally.

I need to learn more verses to "What do you do with a drunken sailor",
as that seems to be what I end up singing a lot going to and fro work.
Though quite a bit of Leonard Cohen seems to be sneaking in lately. I
really should learn the full lyrics to "First we take Manhattan" if I'm
going to be singing it all the time.

Of course, near the end of the one day STP ride I was singing "I wanna
be sedated".

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Of course, near the end of the one day STP ride I was singing "I wanna
be sedated".

I think I was singing that Devo track, "working in a coal mine", especially
the verse, "I am so tired/How long can this go on?"

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"Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >

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By "this" you mean Bob, right?

Anyone who wants to talk about those things must go over that
that NG.

This is an cycling newsgroup, lets keep it that way.

Fabrizio Mazzoleni said:

Anyone who wants to talk about those things must go over that
that NG.
This is an cycling newsgroup, lets keep it that way.

But Fabs, if you're going to get all specific then you should not be
posting outside of rec.bicycles.huffy.fred.racer.wannabe!

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