Do british road speed limits apply to cyclists? I was under the impression that because it's not law to have a speedo on a bike then limits couldn't apply, or should this read couldn't be enforced?
I'm asking as I've moved house and my bike to work now takes me down a 30mph limited hill with a speed camera near the bottom to wake up the dozing motorists. On my first trip on the bike I was also dozing and cruised past it at 34mph (as I do have a speedo). A small amount of effort would get me up to 40mph no doubt, so I'd like to know where I stand before I go past it a bit quicker on the next morning when I'm not awake.
Just for info - it's a classic revenue camera on a piece of road where no accidents take place, which should be at least 40mph limited as its country lane with only the occasional house here and there. The placing at the bottom of a hill just seems extra cynical to me. Rest assured I wouldn't be doing 30mph+ on the bike if it was a busy pedestrian area.
Just for info - it's a classic revenue camera on a piece of road where no accidents take place, which should be at least 40mph limited as its country lane with only the occasional house here and there. The placing at the bottom of a hill just seems extra cynical to me. Rest assured I wouldn't be doing 30mph+ on the bike if it was a busy pedestrian area.
Do british road speed limits apply to cyclists? I was under the impression that because it's not law to have a speedo on a bike then limits couldn't apply, or should this read couldn't be enforced?
I'm asking as I've moved house and my bike to work now takes me down a 30mph limited hill with a speed camera near the bottom to wake up the dozing motorists. On my first trip on the bike I was also dozing and cruised past it at 34mph (as I do have a speedo). A small amount of effort would get me up to 40mph no doubt, so I'd like to know where I stand before I go past it a bit quicker on the next morning when I'm not awake.
Just for info - it's a classic revenue camera on a piece of road where no accidents take place, which should be at least 40mph limited as its country lane with only the occasional house here and there. The placing at the bottom of a hill just seems extra cynical to me. Rest assured I wouldn't be doing 30mph+ on the bike if it was a busy pedestrian area.
Paul
"Cycling Furiously" is the term you are looking for. But you are right, you can't be done for "speeding" as such.
Do british road speed limits apply to cyclists? I was under the impression that because it's not law to have a speedo on a bike then limits couldn't apply, or should this read couldn't be enforced?
They don't, but if you're really being daft then there are cracks in the pavement clauses like "cycling furiously".
Pete. -- Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/
<cynicism> How would I find that out? I thought the local police tend to keep that info confidential in case they're found out that they put cameras in places where they'll make the most money? </cynicism>
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Just for info - it's a classic revenue camera on a piece of road where no accidents take place, which should be at least 40mph limited as its country lane with only the occasional house here and there. The placing at the bottom of a hill just seems extra cynical to me. Rest assured I wouldn't be doing 30mph+ on the bike if it was a busy pedestrian area.
Just for info - it's a classic revenue camera on a piece of road where no accidents take place, which should be at least 40mph limited as its country lane with only the occasional house here and there. The placing at the bottom of a hill just seems extra cynical to me. Rest assured I wouldn't be doing 30mph+ on the bike if it was a busy pedestrian area.
I'm amazed at the number of people I speak to round here (Southampton) who complain about the siting of the speed cameras at the top of Maybray Kingsway (the top of the hill in Bitterne). Goes something like, "It's obviously a revenue generator. It's a dual carriageway on a hill -- and it's a straight road!" What they fail to notice is that the cameras are sited in a pretty high density residential area before a pedestrian crossing on a bend. How could they fail to notice this? Blind ignorance.
Do british road speed limits apply to cyclists? I was under the impression that because it's not law to have a speedo on a bike then limits couldn't apply, or should this read couldn't be enforced?
I'm asking as I've moved house and my bike to work now takes me down a 30mph limited hill with a speed camera near the bottom to wake up the dozing motorists. On my first trip on the bike I was also dozing and cruised past it at 34mph (as I do have a speedo). A small amount of effort would get me up to 40mph no doubt, so I'd like to know where I stand before I go past it a bit quicker on the next morning when I'm not awake.
Relax and let them take your picture. Quite apart from the fact that you have no number plate and are therefore difficult to identity, the speed limit as such does not apply to cyclists except where special regulations apply as in the royal parks. You could of course be charged with dangerous cycling or riding furiously, and the fact that you were exceeding the posted limit for motor vehicles could be used as supporting evidence.
There's a speed camera on a downhill section of the North Circular that I used to pass every day. With a bit of effort I could get above the posted limit of 40 mph, and it was my unfulfilled ambition to be overtaken by a speeding car at just the right moment so that we would both be in the pictures, and both exceeding the limit.
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Do british road speed limits apply to cyclists? I was under the impression that because it's not law to have a speedo on a bike then limits couldn't apply, or should this read couldn't be enforced?
Slightly OT, but I'm pretty sure that bikes don't have enough mass to trigger the camera. Unless you cover your back in tinfoil to aid the radar, I'm fairly sure they wouldn't go off anyway.
Even more OT, is the fact that everytime you ride past one, you get a nice dose of 24Ghz microwave. I'm not sure what kind of power they put out, but it will be directed just at the road and thus amplified. BTW - I'm not scare mongering, for all I know it could be 1mW, I really have no idea, it was just a thought since people seem concerned about mobile phones.
Do british road speed limits apply to cyclists? I was under the impression that because it's not law to have a speedo on a bike then limits couldn't apply, or should this read couldn't be enforced?
They apply only to motor vehicles. If your bike doesn't have a motor they (generally) don't apply. However, there is an offence of 'furious pedalling', although I don't know of any recent case where that's been used; and on some private roads e.g. royal parks there are speed limits which a signposted in the same way as public road speed limits but _do_ apply also to bikes.
Slightly OT, but I'm pretty sure that bikes don't have enough mass to trigger the camera. Unless you cover your back in tinfoil to aid the radar, I'm fairly sure they wouldn't go off anyway.
I think you're right as I've never managed to set off the one at the bottom of Stamford Hill. I /did/ get flashed at by one near Blackhorse Road station, which was odd asthere were no other vehicles in the traps and I was only doing about 20 mph...
<cynicism> How would I find that out? I thought the local police tend to keep that info confidential in case they're found out that they put cameras in places where they'll make the most money? </cynicism>
That would be where most people are breaking the law, of course. Which is one of those things the police are meant to discourage, I thought...
Pete. -- Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/
Do british road speed limits apply to cyclists? I was under the impression that because it's not law to have a speedo on a bike then limits couldn't apply, or should this read couldn't be enforced?
No.
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Just for info - it's a classic revenue camera on a piece of road where no
If it helps think of it as a tax on the unobservant.
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accidents take place, which should be at least 40mph limited as its country lane with only the occasional house here and there. The placing at the bottom of a hill just seems extra cynical to me. Rest assured I wouldn't be doing 30mph+ on the bike if it was a busy pedestrian area.
I think you're right as I've never managed to set off the one at the bottom of Stamford Hill. I /did/ get flashed at by one near Blackhorse Road station, which was odd asthere were no other vehicles in the traps and I was only doing about 20 mph...
Yebbut the top of your spokes were doing 40 mph :-)
Even more OT, is the fact that everytime you ride past one, you get a nice dose of 24Ghz microwave. I'm not sure what kind of power they put out, but it will be directed just at the road and thus amplified. BTW - I'm not scare mongering, for all I know it could be 1mW, I really have no idea, it was just a thought since people seem concerned about mobile phones.
Would a helmet covered in tinfoil help protect against this new threat?
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Just for info - it's a classic revenue camera on a piece of road where no accidents take place, which should be at least 40mph limited as its country lane with only the occasional house here and there. The placing at the bottom of a hill just seems extra cynical to me. Rest assured I wouldn't be doing 30mph+ on the bike if it was a busy pedestrian area.
Do you know the accident history of this road?
<cynicism> How would I find that out? I thought the local police tend to keep that info confidential in case they're found out that they put cameras in places where they'll make the most money? </cynicism>
What benefit do the local police get from having speed cameras which catch a lot of offenders?
Except for having to get the mop and brush out of the traffic car slightly less often?
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<cynicism> How would I find that out? I thought the local police tend to keep that
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confidential in case they're found out that they put cameras in places
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they'll make the most money? </cynicism>
That would be where most people are breaking the law, of course. Which is one of those things the police are meant to discourage, I thought...
Which is why money should be invested in an anti heroine-injecting-[censored]-head camera. A much more worthy cause than catching a few speeding motorists, who let's face, wont slow down after being caught anyway.
You can't teach a dog not to [censored], but you can teach it where it's allowed to [censored].
The same applies to speeding motorists, although the government is wasting god knows how much on trying to teach them not to [censored] at all.
