cleat problem (again)

"Felix qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas." (Vergil)

NS said:

The Look red cleat on the left shoe gets loose often and of course I have to tighten them. The
screws seem to come loose and the cleat swivels enough to make my foot hurt at the end or near the
end of every ride.

The screws you're using may be too long, allowing them to bottom out against the sole before they
make the cleats fast. Try a set of slightly shorter fasteners.

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Have yiou tried Loktite on the screw threads to prevent them from loosening?

May you have the wind at your back. And a really low gear for the hills! Chris

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NS> at [email hidden] wrote on 7/8/03 9:20 AM:

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Here's the scoop... I have some 7 year old Sidi shoes that I still wear (only because I have no
money for new ones). The Look red cleat on the left shoe gets loose often and of course I have to
tighten them. The screws seem to come loose and the cleat swivels enough to make my foot hurt at
the end or near the end of every ride. The newish cleat upon removal still has the teats (for lack
of a better word) all around the edge as it's suposed to. The shoe however has pits where the
cleat teats are supposed to rest that have been widened by the constant swivel action and are way
out of what spec should be.

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I guess my question is... Am I just going to have to break down and buy another pair shoes? Has
anyone ever tried fixing a shoe like this? And even though the cleats look good still and have the
toe ridge ...Are the cleats bad?

If it's been happening with other cleats, then you've answered your own questions.

But, let's focus on the pedals for a sec... How tightly do you have the release tension set? It's
surprising that you could generate enough torque against the cleat to loosen it without popping
your foot out.

If it's just this set of cleats I'd try some blue locTite first. I'm not sure the screws could
bottom out without feeling them through the sole.

Also, if you are getting that much rotation in your foot, you might want to make sure you are
positioned efficiently on the bike. Don't discount other mechanical causes - you could have a slight
bend in the BB axle you've gotten used to, causing a different rotation on that foot/pedal.

Hope that helps -

-- Jim

JDacey-<< "Felix qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas." (Vergil) >><BR><BR>

Ya know you ought to translate these quotes(another from Cicero) for us unwashed, uneducated
horde who's exposure to Latin is limited to watching 'Galdiator'...Did they speak Latin then or
Italian or what??

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10 Jul 2003 12:56:14 GMT said:

JDacey-<< "Felix qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas." (Vergil) >><BR><BR>

Ya know you ought to translate these quotes(another from Cicero) for us unwashed, uneducated horde
who's exposure to Latin is limited to watching 'Galdiator'...Did they speak Latin then or Italian
or what??

Felix = happy; qui = who; potuit = he is able; rerum = of things; cognoscere = to know, learn;
causas = causes. So you have: Happy is he who is able to learn the causes of things.

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(Qui si parla Campagnolo) said:

John-<< So you have: Happy is he who is able to learn the causes of things.

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Otay, Maybe your talents are being wasted in the bike biz..

Do I detect that you're encouraging me to find a new line of work?

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BUT did they speak Latin or Italian during the times of Claudius Maximus???

As I understand it, the language that became known as "Italian" emerged in the 1200s and 1300s in
the area around Florence. Your Clavdivs Maximvs was a Roman, and would have spoken Latin.
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