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  1. I am going to chuck my toaster. That Damn thing is starting to [censored] me off.

    Short of toasting a piece of bread what is the best way to judge the "toasting
    ability" would the wattage be a good measure of power?

    e.g.. Compare shop for Toaster Ovens at DealTime - read reviews and compare
    prices ... Slice Capacity: 4 Slice Oven, Power: 1300 Watts, With Digital/LED
    Display ...

    One would think the more watts the more power however the distance from the
    coils I think is also important.

    Maybe a better question is what is the best way to judge the "toasting ability?

    Thanks

    Dimitri

  2. Dimitri said:

    I am going to chuck my toaster. That Damn thing is starting to [censored]


    me off.

    Quoted message said:


    Short of toasting a piece of bread what is the best way to judge the


    "toasting

    Quoted message said:

    ability" would the wattage be a good measure of power?

    e.g.. Compare shop for Toaster Ovens at DealTime - read reviews and


    compare

    Quoted message said:

    prices ... Slice Capacity: 4 Slice Oven, Power: 1300 Watts, With


    Digital/LED

    Quoted message said:

    Display ...

    One would think the more watts the more power however the distance


    from the

    Quoted message said:

    coils I think is also important.

    Maybe a better question is what is the best way to judge the


    "toasting ability?

    Generally "price".

    You could always spend like $600-$800 for a commercial toaster.
    But for under $100 I'm very happy with my KitchenAid Ultra Power Plus
    toaster.

    Sheldon

  3. On Fri 06 May 2005 07:39:19a, Dimitri wrote in rec.food.cooking:

    Quoted message said:

    I am going to chuck my toaster. That Damn thing is starting to [censored] me
    off.

    Short of toasting a piece of bread what is the best way to judge the
    "toasting ability" would the wattage be a good measure of power?

    e.g.. Compare shop for Toaster Ovens at DealTime - read reviews and
    compare prices ... Slice Capacity: 4 Slice Oven, Power: 1300 Watts, With
    Digital/LED Display ...

    One would think the more watts the more power however the distance from
    the coils I think is also important.

    Maybe a better question is what is the best way to judge the "toasting
    ability?

    Thanks

    Dimitri

    A lot depends on what your goal is for toast. If you prefer crispier toast
    (and more deeply through the bread) with a broader range of color, then a
    lower wattage and/or greater distance from the coils/elements would
    probably work better. By it's nature, this type of toasting takes more
    time. If you want quick toast, well-colored, but with no concern over a
    softness within the slice of bread, then higher wattage and/or less
    distance from the coils/elements would be the better choice.

    Older, high quality toasters tended to toast more thoroughly (deeply) and
    produce a crisp slice of toast without burning the bread. I wonder if
    today's hurry...hurry...hurry attitude has led to a generation of faster
    toasters that don't do a particularly good job.

    In general, I have found that good toaster ovens produce toast more like
    earlier generation toasters.

    --
    Wayne Boatwright
    ____________________________________________

    Give me a smart idiot over a stupid genius any day.
    Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974

  4. "Sheldon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    <snip>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    One would think the more watts the more power however the distance


    from the

    Quoted message said:

    coils I think is also important.

    Maybe a better question is what is the best way to judge the


    "toasting ability?

    Generally "price".

    You could always spend like $600-$800 for a commercial toaster.
    But for under $100 I'm very happy with my KitchenAid Ultra Power Plus
    toaster.

    Sheldon

    I like the $100 idea better - is your a 4 slice?

    Thanks

    Dimitri

  5. "Dimitri" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I am going to chuck my toaster. That Damn thing is starting to [censored] me
    off.

    Short of toasting a piece of bread what is the best way to judge the
    "toasting ability" would the wattage be a good measure of power?

    e.g.. Compare shop for Toaster Ovens at DealTime - read reviews and
    compare prices ... Slice Capacity: 4 Slice Oven, Power: 1300 Watts, With
    Digital/LED Display ...

    One would think the more watts the more power however the distance from
    the coils I think is also important.

    Maybe a better question is what is the best way to judge the "toasting
    ability?

    Thanks

    Dimitri

    Check this out:

    http://www.epinions.com/Toasters/show_~top_sellers
    http://www.epinions.com/Toaster_Ovens--~all-9688_brand/sec_~product_list/pp_~1/pa_~1#list

    I hope that helps.

    --Rich

  6. Sheldon said:
    Dimitri said:

    I am going to chuck my toaster. That Damn thing is starting to [censored]
    me off.

    Short of toasting a piece of bread what is the best way to judge the
    "toasting ability" would the wattage be a good measure of power?

    Maybe a better question is what is the best way to judge the
    "toasting ability?

    Generally "price".

    You could always spend like $600-$800 for a commercial toaster.

    You'd have to *really* love toast to lay out that much money for a toaster!

    Quoted message said:

    But for under $100 I'm very happy with my KitchenAid Ultra Power Plus
    toaster.

    Sheldon

  7. Dimitri said:

    "Sheldon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    <snip>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    One would think the more watts the more power however the distance


    from the

    Quoted message said:

    coils I think is also important.

    Maybe a better question is what is the best way to judge the


    "toasting ability?

    Generally "price".

    You could always spend like $600-$800 for a commercial toaster.
    But for under $100 I'm very happy with my KitchenAid Ultra Power


    Plus

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    toaster.

    Sheldon

    I like the $100 idea better - is your a 4 slice?

    Mine is the 2 slice, single *wide* slot.

    Sheldon

  8. On Fri 06 May 2005 08:25:16a, jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:

    Quoted message said:

    You'd have to *really* love toast to lay out that much money for a toaster!

    My favorite recollection of good toast was at my aunt's home. They had a
    large family and an electric toaster just wasn't an answer when they sat down
    to breakfast together. My aunt's cook would make large baking sheets full of
    toast in a c. 1950s Frigidaire electric range. She toasted one side,
    flipped, then buttered and toasted the other side. It took longer to make
    the toast this way, but it was crisp and buttery.

    --
    Wayne Boatwright
    ____________________________________________

    Give me a smart idiot over a stupid genius any day.
    Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974

  9. "Wayne Boatwright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Fri 06 May 2005 07:39:19a, Dimitri wrote in rec.food.cooking:

    Quoted message said:

    I am going to chuck my toaster. That Damn thing is starting to [censored] me
    off.

    Short of toasting a piece of bread what is the best way to judge the
    "toasting ability" would the wattage be a good measure of power?

    e.g.. Compare shop for Toaster Ovens at DealTime - read reviews and
    compare prices ... Slice Capacity: 4 Slice Oven, Power: 1300 Watts, With
    Digital/LED Display ...

    One would think the more watts the more power however the distance from
    the coils I think is also important.

    Maybe a better question is what is the best way to judge the "toasting
    ability?

    Thanks

    Dimitri

    A lot depends on what your goal is for toast. If you prefer crispier
    toast
    (and more deeply through the bread) with a broader range of color, then a
    lower wattage and/or greater distance from the coils/elements would
    probably work better. By it's nature, this type of toasting takes more
    time. If you want quick toast, well-colored, but with no concern over a
    softness within the slice of bread, then higher wattage and/or less
    distance from the coils/elements would be the better choice.

    Older, high quality toasters tended to toast more thoroughly (deeply) and
    produce a crisp slice of toast without burning the bread. I wonder if
    today's hurry...hurry...hurry attitude has led to a generation of faster
    toasters that don't do a particularly good job.

    In general, I have found that good toaster ovens produce toast more like
    earlier generation toasters.


    Wayne, I sure agree with you on the last sentence.

    I also have a Cuisinart 4 slice toaster that will toast 2 slices and has a
    number of settings for light/dark and reset, etc. I still find that if I
    set a slice to toast at #4 -- which is about the darkest it will go on mine
    without burning -- that I will come back a little later, hoping it has dried
    out a little, and set it to #2, just to get it a little dryer and
    toastier -- reminiscent of toast on the farm made with a wood-stove. I
    know this 'farm' toast is a little like melba-toast, but probably the
    youngsters today didn't get to know about this kind of toast that some of us
    really enjoyed and may not like at all.

    Toast at a lot of the diners really leave a lot to be desired.
    Oh, I am remembering that when I was in Japan in the mid-80's a lot of the
    business hotels had a single toaster that looked like the old-time toaster
    on the bread table; the kind that was available here in the 40's (not the
    revolving kind that you see now).

    One time years ago at the Heritage House (movie: Same Time Next Year was
    filmed there) in California, they put individual toasters on your table in
    the morning whereby you could cook your own toast to your preference. I
    recall it because they were the chrome-like finish and they were sparkling
    clean! Mine at home always had a piece of saran wrap stuck to the side -- I
    was happy when they came out with the plastic toasters -- how many times
    I've burnt my arm on the metal ones.

    Back to the subject at hand -- I would recommend the Cuisinart toaster -- I
    bought a back-up -- I like it that well.

    Dee

  10. On Fri 06 May 2005 09:08:50a, Dee Randall wrote in rec.food.cooking:

    Quoted message said:


    "Wayne Boatwright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Fri 06 May 2005 07:39:19a, Dimitri wrote in rec.food.cooking:

    Quoted message said:

    I am going to chuck my toaster. That Damn thing is starting to [censored]
    me off.

    Short of toasting a piece of bread what is the best way to judge the
    "toasting ability" would the wattage be a good measure of power?

    e.g.. Compare shop for Toaster Ovens at DealTime - read reviews and
    compare prices ... Slice Capacity: 4 Slice Oven, Power: 1300 Watts,
    With Digital/LED Display ...

    One would think the more watts the more power however the distance
    from the coils I think is also important.

    Maybe a better question is what is the best way to judge the "toasting
    ability?

    Thanks

    Dimitri

    A lot depends on what your goal is for toast. If you prefer crispier
    toast (and more deeply through the bread) with a broader range of
    color, then a lower wattage and/or greater distance from the
    coils/elements would probably work better. By it's nature, this type
    of toasting takes more time. If you want quick toast, well-colored,
    but with no concern over a softness within the slice of bread, then
    higher wattage and/or less distance from the coils/elements would be
    the better choice.

    Older, high quality toasters tended to toast more thoroughly (deeply)
    and produce a crisp slice of toast without burning the bread. I wonder
    if today's hurry...hurry...hurry attitude has led to a generation of
    faster toasters that don't do a particularly good job.

    In general, I have found that good toaster ovens produce toast more
    like earlier generation toasters.


    Wayne, I sure agree with you on the last sentence.

    I also have a Cuisinart 4 slice toaster that will toast 2 slices and has
    a number of settings for light/dark and reset, etc. I still find that
    if I set a slice to toast at #4 -- which is about the darkest it will go
    on mine without burning -- that I will come back a little later, hoping
    it has dried out a little, and set it to #2, just to get it a little
    dryer and toastier -- reminiscent of toast on the farm made with a
    wood-stove. I know this 'farm' toast is a little like melba-toast, but
    probably the youngsters today didn't get to know about this kind of
    toast that some of us really enjoyed and may not like at all.

    Yes, that's the type of toast I remember and really prefer, although we
    didn't have a wood-fired stove. The toast was often made in the oven of
    our range. My parents had a GE toaster, purchased in 1937, that also made
    toast like that. I tend to think that people of today's generation would
    not like it as well, since they've probably never been accumstomed to it.

    Quoted message said:

    Toast at a lot of the diners really leave a lot to be desired.
    Oh, I am remembering that when I was in Japan in the mid-80's a lot of
    the business hotels had a single toaster that looked like the old-time
    toaster on the bread table; the kind that was available here in the 40's
    (not the revolving kind that you see now).

    I think the majority of restaurants, of almost any ilk, make substandard
    toast today. Having said that, the last time I had breakfast in Peacock
    Alley at the Waldorf, toast was still served in toast racks and it was
    "proper toast", absolutely perfect. The Brits had a good idea in using
    toast racks. The toast doesn't get soggy. I wish more restaurants here in
    the US used them.

    Quoted message said:

    One time years ago at the Heritage House (movie: Same Time Next Year was
    filmed there) in California, they put individual toasters on your table
    in the morning whereby you could cook your own toast to your preference.

    What a great approach! I would enjoy that.

    Quoted message said:

    I recall it because they were the chrome-like finish and they were
    sparkling clean! Mine at home always had a piece of saran wrap stuck to
    the side -- I was happy when they came out with the plastic toasters --
    how many times I've burnt my arm on the metal ones.

    Ah yes, plastic on chrome. Not the most fun thing to try to remove. :-)

    Quoted message said:

    Back to the subject at hand -- I would recommend the Cuisinart toaster
    -- I bought a back-up -- I like it that well.

    Dee

    Glad you found one that works that well for you. I've pretty much settled
    on a Panasonic toaster oven that's handy for an assortment of tasks. It
    does make great toast, but the only drawback is that it needs to preheat to
    do the best job of it.

    --
    Wayne Boatwright
    ____________________________________________

    Give me a smart idiot over a stupid genius any day.
    Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974

  11. In article <[email hidden]>, "Dimitri"

    Quoted message said:

    I am going to chuck my toaster. That Damn thing is starting to [censored] me
    off.

    Every "nice" toaster we've ever had sucks. I now stick to the $1.00
    garage sale toasters and we haven't had a failure since. 🙂 We have a
    two slot one and a four slot one and they are located at our bread
    station.

    My mom had two, and she used them in rotation. When one got wonky,
    she put it away and pulled out the other one. Evidently the vacation
    made the other one more useful and well behaved and when the second one
    got weird the first had recuperated enough to function well again.

    Regards,
    Ranee

    --
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    "She seeks wool and flax, and works with willing hands." Prov 31:13

    See my Blog at: http://arabianknits.blogspot.com/

  12. In article <[email hidden]>, Wayne Boatwright

    Quoted message said:

    My favorite recollection of good toast was at my aunt's home. They
    had a large family and an electric toaster just wasn't an answer when
    they sat down to breakfast together. My aunt's cook would make large
    baking sheets full of toast in a c. 1950s Frigidaire electric range.
    She toasted one side, flipped, then buttered and toasted the other
    side. It took longer to make the toast this way, but it was crisp
    and buttery.

    That's what we do here if we need toast for breakfast. With six
    people in the family and only six slots in electric toasters, it is
    easier and faster to do it in the oven in quantity.

    Regards,
    Ranee

    --
    Remove Do Not and Spam to email

    "She seeks wool and flax, and works with willing hands." Prov 31:13

    See my Blog at: http://arabianknits.blogspot.com/

  13. On Sat, 07 May 2005 03:08:58 GMT, "Alan Zelt" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    After many years with expensive, feature laden toasters, we discovered that
    $15 models from Target do a good job of one thing: toasting. We sleep better
    at nite. Perhaps the best way to resolve this issue is to open up a bottle
    of red, contemplate how good life is, and just say:
    "f -it." It's just a toaster.

    Here, here! I picked up a Cuisinart toaster at Costco around Xmas
    and it works just fine. Does 4 slices...has several
    options...including one for bagels...and it was under $40.

    Debra

  14. "Dimitri" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I am going to chuck my toaster.

    Short of toasting a piece of bread what is the best way to judge the


    "toasting

    Quoted message said:

    ability" would the wattage be a good measure of power?

    My belief is that very cheap basic toasters toast best (if not fastest). I
    have a $10 GE which has done an admirable job for over 15 years. It only
    does two normal sized pieces of bread at a time to be sure, so if I want
    more at one time I have to keep the toast warm in the oven. But it does not
    scorch one side while leaving the other side untoasted. My friend complains
    about all the $50 toasters he's had that never seem to work right.

  15. "HiTech RedNeck" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Dimitri" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I am going to chuck my toaster.

    Short of toasting a piece of bread what is the best way to judge the


    "toasting

    Quoted message said:

    ability" would the wattage be a good measure of power?

    My belief is that very cheap basic toasters toast best (if not fastest).


    I

    Quoted message said:

    have a $10 GE which has done an admirable job for over 15 years. It only
    does two normal sized pieces of bread at a time to be sure, so if I want
    more at one time I have to keep the toast warm in the oven. But it does


    not

    Quoted message said:

    scorch one side while leaving the other side untoasted. My friend


    complains

    Quoted message said:

    about all the $50 toasters he's had that never seem to work right.

    If I want my bread toasted to perfection, I do it one side at a time under
    the grill ('broiler' to you USAians?).

    Shaun aRe - And I *STAND* there and watch it until it's done, too - I ain't
    lazy ',;~}~

  16. "HiTech RedNeck" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:

    My belief is that very cheap basic toasters toast best (if not fastest).
    I
    have a $10 GE which has done an admirable job for over 15 years. It only
    does two normal sized pieces of bread at a time to be sure, so if I want
    more at one time I have to keep the toast warm in the oven.

    Right. The only reason to pay more is to get features like the wide slots
    for bagels and rolls.

  17. My theory is that the wide slot toasters make lousy toast.

    If the heater elements are close to the bread,
    they literally "toast" the surface.

    When they're farther apart ( wide-slot toasters )
    you end up with the bread being baked.....

    It's hard to avoid a wide-slot toaster these days.
    And they all make so-so toasted bread.

    Edwin Pawlowski said:


    "HiTech RedNeck" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:

    My belief is that very cheap basic toasters toast best (if not fastest).
    I
    have a $10 GE which has done an admirable job for over 15 years. It only
    does two normal sized pieces of bread at a time to be sure, so if I want
    more at one time I have to keep the toast warm in the oven.

    Right. The only reason to pay more is to get features like the wide slots
    for bagels and rolls.

    <rj>

  18. "Shaun aRe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "HiTech RedNeck" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Dimitri" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I am going to chuck my toaster.

    Short of toasting a piece of bread what is the best way to judge
    the


    "toasting

    Quoted message said:

    ability" would the wattage be a good measure of power?

    My belief is that very cheap basic toasters toast best (if not
    fastest).


    I

    Quoted message said:

    have a $10 GE which has done an admirable job for over 15 years. It
    only
    does two normal sized pieces of bread at a time to be sure, so if I
    want
    more at one time I have to keep the toast warm in the oven. But it
    does


    not

    Quoted message said:

    scorch one side while leaving the other side untoasted. My friend


    complains

    Quoted message said:

    about all the $50 toasters he's had that never seem to work right.

    If I want my bread toasted to perfection, I do it one side at a time
    under
    the grill ('broiler' to you USAians?).

    Yep so do I🙂 I do have a toaster because my wee grandson likes to make
    his own when he is here

  19. "Ophelia" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "Shaun aRe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    If I want my bread toasted to perfection, I do it one side at a time
    under
    the grill ('broiler' to you USAians?).

    Yep so do I🙂 I do have a toaster because my wee grandson likes to make
    his own when he is here

    See people? Even one o' them Yorkshirefolk has enough sense to toast bread
    the RIGHT way.

    ',;~}~

    Shaun aRe - (That better notbbob? Heheheh...)

  20. "Shaun aRe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "Ophelia" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Shaun aRe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    If I want my bread toasted to perfection, I do it one side at a
    time
    under
    the grill ('broiler' to you USAians?).

    Yep so do I🙂 I do have a toaster because my wee grandson likes to
    make
    his own when he is here

    See people? Even one o' them Yorkshirefolk has enough sense to toast
    bread
    the RIGHT way.

    Quite so and the Lanky learned to follow🙂

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