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  1. Hi,

    I took my Deore crankset to bits in order to give the rings a good clean and degrease, however when
    I came to rebuild it I realised I didn't know how the rings were formally aligned relative to each
    other. All I could do was take an educated guess and line up the engraved inscriptions where it says
    'Shimano HG 22T' etc. I want to know if this is the correct rotation, because the shift ramps and
    shaped teeth won't line up if I've guessed wrong. Obviously I knew how the big ring is meant to be
    positioned but that still leaves 16 combinations for the other two!

    Cheers

    Mark

  2. "Mark (UK)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi,

    I took my Deore crankset to bits in order to give the rings a good clean


    and

    Quoted message said:

    degrease, however when I came to rebuild it I realised I didn't know how


    the

    Quoted message said:

    rings were formally aligned relative to each other. All I could do was


    take

    Quoted message said:

    an educated guess and line up the engraved inscriptions where it says 'Shimano HG 22T' etc. I want
    to know if this is the correct rotation, because the shift ramps and shaped teeth won't line up if
    I've guessed wrong. Obviously I knew how the big ring is meant to be positioned but


    that

    Quoted message said:

    still leaves 16 combinations for the other two!

    Cheers

    Mark

    Wait, doesn't that just leave four? out/out out/in in/out in/in assuming small/big rings.

  3. "Mark (UK)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi,

    I took my Deore crankset to bits in order to give the rings a good clean


    and

    Quoted message said:

    degrease, however when I came to rebuild it I realised I didn't know how


    the

    Quoted message said:

    rings were formally aligned relative to each other. All I could do was


    take

    Quoted message said:

    an educated guess and line up the engraved inscriptions where it says 'Shimano HG 22T' etc. I want
    to know if this is the correct rotation, because the shift ramps and shaped teeth won't line up if
    I've guessed wrong. Obviously I knew how the big ring is meant to be positioned but


    that

    Quoted message said:

    still leaves 16 combinations for the other two!

    Cheers

    Mark


    Forgot to mention that i checked the exploded view pdf for the Deore chainset from the Shimano web
    site and was not able to tell how they aligned...

  4. Mark (UK) <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Mark (UK)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi,

    I took my Deore crankset to bits in order to give the rings a good clean


    and

    Quoted message said:

    degrease, however when I came to rebuild it I realised I didn't know how


    the

    Quoted message said:

    rings were formally aligned relative to each other. All I could do was


    take

    Quoted message said:

    an educated guess and line up the engraved inscriptions where it says 'Shimano HG 22T' etc. I
    want to know if this is the correct rotation, because the shift ramps and shaped teeth won't
    line up if I've guessed wrong. Obviously I knew how the big ring is meant to be positioned but


    that

    Quoted message said:

    still leaves 16 combinations for the other two!

    Cheers

    Mark


    Forgot to mention that i checked the exploded view pdf for the Deore chainset from the Shimano web
    site and was not able to tell how they aligned...

    There's usually small arrowhead (or somesuch similar) markings on each ring (on the sets I've seen).
    These all line up to each other, and on my set, all line up to the middle of the crank arm.

    I don't know about theShimano Deore set specifically, but would think they'd have something the same
    or similar - take a look!

    Shaun aRe

  5. "Jason" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Mark (UK)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi,

    I took my Deore crankset to bits in order to give the rings a good clean


    and

    Quoted message said:

    degrease, however when I came to rebuild it I realised I didn't know how


    the

    Quoted message said:

    rings were formally aligned relative to each other. All I could do was


    take

    Quoted message said:

    an educated guess and line up the engraved inscriptions where it says 'Shimano HG 22T' etc. I
    want to know if this is the correct rotation, because the shift ramps and shaped teeth won't
    line up if I've guessed wrong. Obviously I knew how the big ring is meant to be positioned but


    that

    Quoted message said:

    still leaves 16 combinations for the other two!

    Cheers

    Mark

    Wait, doesn't that just leave four? out/out out/in in/out in/in assuming small/big rings.


    I mean rotational alignment, i know which way each one faces. 4 bolt system on 3 rings gives 16
    combos i reckon.

  6. "Shaun Rimmer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Mark (UK) <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Mark (UK)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi,

    I took my Deore crankset to bits in order to give the rings a good


    clean

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and

    Quoted message said:

    degrease, however when I came to rebuild it I realised I didn't know


    how

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the

    Quoted message said:

    rings were formally aligned relative to each other. All I could do was


    take

    Quoted message said:

    an educated guess and line up the engraved inscriptions where it says 'Shimano HG 22T' etc. I
    want to know if this is the correct rotation, because the shift ramps and shaped teeth won't
    line up if I've guessed wrong. Obviously I knew how the big ring is meant to be positioned but


    that

    Quoted message said:

    still leaves 16 combinations for the other two!

    Cheers

    Mark


    Forgot to mention that i checked the exploded view pdf for the Deore chainset from the Shimano
    web site and was not able to tell how they aligned...

    There's usually small arrowhead (or somesuch similar) markings on each


    ring

    Quoted message said:

    (on the sets I've seen). These all line up to each other, and on my set,


    all

    Quoted message said:

    line up to the middle of the crank arm.

    I don't know about theShimano Deore set specifically, but would think


    they'd

    Quoted message said:

    have something the same or similar - take a look!

    Shaun aRe

    The only inscription i could see was the shimano stuff as mentioned. I was expecting to see arrows
    or something. Perhaps I'll look again.

    Mark

  7. Mark (UK) <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Shaun Rimmer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Mark (UK) <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Mark (UK)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...
    > Hi,
    >
    > I took my Deore crankset to bits in order to give the rings a good


    clean

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and
    > degrease, however when I came to rebuild it I realised I didn't know


    how

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the
    > rings were formally aligned relative to each other. All I could do


    was

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    take
    > an educated guess and line up the engraved inscriptions where it


    says

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > 'Shimano HG 22T' etc. I want to know if this is the correct


    rotation,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > because the shift ramps and shaped teeth won't line up if I've


    guessed

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > wrong. Obviously I knew how the big ring is meant to be positioned


    but

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    that
    > still leaves 16 combinations for the other two!
    >
    > Cheers
    >
    > Mark
    >
    Forgot to mention that i checked the exploded view pdf for the Deore chainset from the Shimano
    web site and was not able to tell how they aligned...

    There's usually small arrowhead (or somesuch similar) markings on each


    ring

    Quoted message said:

    (on the sets I've seen). These all line up to each other, and on my set,


    all

    Quoted message said:

    line up to the middle of the crank arm.

    I don't know about theShimano Deore set specifically, but would think


    they'd

    Quoted message said:

    have something the same or similar - take a look!

    Shaun aRe

    The only inscription i could see was the shimano stuff as mentioned. I was expecting to see arrows
    or something. Perhaps I'll look again.

    Mark

    Did you look on the underside of the rings?

    Just a thought.

    Shaun aRe

  8. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    There's usually small arrowhead (or somesuch similar) markings on each


    ring

    Quoted message said:

    (on the sets I've seen). These all line up to each other, and on my set,


    all

    Quoted message said:

    line up to the middle of the crank arm.

    I don't know about theShimano Deore set specifically, but would think


    they'd

    Quoted message said:

    have something the same or similar - take a look!

    Shaun aRe

    The only inscription i could see was the shimano stuff as mentioned. I was expecting to see arrows
    or something. Perhaps I'll look again.

    The big ring is self evident because of the chain catcher attached to it that goes under the crank
    arm. The granny gear can't go on wrong so that just leaves the middle ring. Place that one so that
    the shift pins do not coincide directly with the shift pins on the large ring.
    --
    _________________________
    Chris Phillipo - Cape Breton, Nova Scotia ramsays-online.comramsays-online.com

  9. Shaun Rimmer said:

    Mark (UK) <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Mark (UK)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi,

    I took my Deore crankset to bits in order to give the rings a good clean

    and

    Quoted message said:

    degrease, however when I came to rebuild it I realised I didn't know how

    the

    Quoted message said:

    rings were formally aligned relative to each other. All I could do was

    take

    Quoted message said:

    an educated guess and line up the engraved inscriptions where it says 'Shimano HG 22T' etc. I
    want to know if this is the correct rotation, because the shift ramps and shaped teeth won't line
    up if I've guessed wrong. Obviously I knew how the big ring is meant to be positioned but

    that

    Quoted message said:

    still leaves 16 combinations for the other two!

    Cheers

    Mark

    Forgot to mention that i checked the exploded view pdf for the Deore chainset from the Shimano web
    site and was not able to tell how they aligned...

    There's usually small arrowhead (or somesuch similar) markings on each ring (on the sets I've
    seen). These all line up to each other, and on my set, all line up to the middle of the crank arm.

    I don't know about theShimano Deore set specifically, but would think they'd have something the
    same or similar - take a look!

    On the Shimano rings that I've used, there's a tab sticking down in the cutout that should align
    with the crank (XT / XTR -- don't know about Diore, but would expect it to be the same).

    BTW. it DOES make a difference on the granny unless the number of teeth evenly divides into the
    number of arms.

    David

  10. "David Kunz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Shaun Rimmer said:

    Mark (UK) <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Mark (UK)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    >Hi,
    >
    >I took my Deore crankset to bits in order to give the rings a good


    clean

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    and

    >degrease, however when I came to rebuild it I realised I didn't know


    how

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    the

    >rings were formally aligned relative to each other. All I could do was

    take

    >an educated guess and line up the engraved inscriptions where it says 'Shimano HG 22T' etc. I
    >want to know if this is the correct rotation, because the shift ramps and shaped teeth won't
    >line up if I've guessed wrong. Obviously I knew how the big ring is meant to be positioned but

    that

    >still leaves 16 combinations for the other two!
    >
    >Cheers
    >
    >Mark
    >

    Forgot to mention that i checked the exploded view pdf for the Deore chainset from the Shimano
    web site and was not able to tell how they aligned...

    There's usually small arrowhead (or somesuch similar) markings on each


    ring

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    (on the sets I've seen). These all line up to each other, and on my set,


    all

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    line up to the middle of the crank arm.

    I don't know about theShimano Deore set specifically, but would think


    they'd

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    have something the same or similar - take a look!

    On the Shimano rings that I've used, there's a tab sticking down in the cutout that should align
    with the crank (XT / XTR -- don't know about Diore, but would expect it to be the same).

    BTW. it DOES make a difference on the granny unless the number of teeth evenly divides into the
    number of arms.

    David


    I have just spent ages analysing my chainrings and stumbled across the tabs before reading this!
    Middle ring was by chance mounted correctly and have now correctly aligned the granny. Thanks
    anyway, nice to have confirmation!

    Mark

  11. Mark (UK) said:

    "David Kunz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Shaun Rimmer said:

    Mark (UK) <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    >"Mark (UK)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    >"]news:[email hidden]...
    >
    >
    >>Hi,
    >>
    >>I took my Deore crankset to bits in order to give the rings a good

    clean

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >and
    >
    >
    >>degrease, however when I came to rebuild it I realised I didn't know

    how

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >the
    >
    >
    >>rings were formally aligned relative to each other. All I could do was
    >
    >take
    >
    >
    >>an educated guess and line up the engraved inscriptions where it says 'Shimano HG 22T' etc. I
    >>want to know if this is the correct rotation, because the shift ramps and shaped teeth won't
    >>line up if I've guessed wrong. Obviously I knew how the big ring is meant to be positioned but
    >
    >that
    >
    >
    >>still leaves 16 combinations for the other two!
    >>
    >>Cheers
    >>
    >>Mark
    >>
    >
    >Forgot to mention that i checked the exploded view pdf for the Deore chainset from the Shimano
    >web site and was not able to tell how they aligned...

    There's usually small arrowhead (or somesuch similar) markings on each

    ring

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    (on the sets I've seen). These all line up to each other, and on my set,

    all

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    line up to the middle of the crank arm.

    I don't know about theShimano Deore set specifically, but would think

    they'd

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    have something the same or similar - take a look!

    On the Shimano rings that I've used, there's a tab sticking down in the cutout that should align
    with the crank (XT / XTR -- don't know about Diore, but would expect it to be the same).

    BTW. it DOES make a difference on the granny unless the number of teeth evenly divides into the
    number of arms.

    David

    I have just spent ages analysing my chainrings and stumbled across the tabs before reading this!
    Middle ring was by chance mounted correctly and have now correctly aligned the granny. Thanks
    anyway, nice to have confirmation!

    Mark

    Yea, with all of the bends and shaping to help shifting, they're not always obvious -- I missed 'em
    the first time too 🙂.

    David

  12. Chris Phillipo said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    On the Shimano rings that I've used, there's a tab sticking down in the cutout that should align
    with the crank (XT / XTR -- don't know about Diore, but would expect it to be the same).

    BTW. it DOES make a difference on the granny unless the number of teeth evenly divides into the
    number of arms.

    David

    Well in this case it's 22Tx4 but this is a new one on me, what do you do in the case of a 23T?

    It should have the tab or mark that shows the alignment. It makes a difference in the way that
    the teeth on the 2 differnt rings line up when you shift. If it's rotated right, the chain will
    shift easily; if not, the chain won't engage both rings at the same time and will shift roughly
    or not at all.

    David

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