Kettlebell Intro

DZ said:

frank-in-toronto said:

We have a kettlebell guy coming to the gym next week. He'll be
giving 2 introductory classes and then most likely we'll set up a
series of 8. What should I be looking for? I want to get as much
out of this as I can.

What does it mean to be a "kettlebell guy" - am I one? I think so. I
used kettlebells for about 10 years -

1) For the reasons of lack of better equipment.

2) As a doorstop.

3) As a prank once, to load up the travel suitcase of a fellow
student.

4) During military training as a USSR Army officer.

5) Judging by the vigorous curly hair I suspect me and Steve have a
not so distant common ancestor from somewhere around here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Autonomous_Republic (last, but not
least this qualifies me as a "kettlebell guy"😉

Woot!! ;o)

On 28 Apr 2005 21:24:03 GMT, DZ
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Quoted message said:

frank-in-toronto said:

We have a kettlebell guy coming to the gym next week. He'll be
giving 2 introductory classes and then most likely we'll set up a
series of 8. What should I be looking for? I want to get as much
out of this as I can.

What does it mean to be a "kettlebell guy" - am I one? I think so. I
used kettlebells for about 10 years -

1) For the reasons of lack of better equipment.

2) As a doorstop.

3) As a prank once, to load up the travel suitcase of a fellow
student.

4) During military training as a USSR Army officer.

5) Judging by the vigorous curly hair I suspect me and Steve have a
not so distant common ancestor from somewhere around here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Autonomous_Republic (last, but not
least this qualifies me as a "kettlebell guy"😉

<golf clap>

frank-in-toronto said:

We have a kettlebell guy coming to the gym next week. He'll be
giving 2 introductory classes and then most likely we'll set
up a series of 8.

What should I be looking for? I want to get as much out of
this as I can.
...thehick

Apart from the humor value (such as it is), pay no attention to the
first three responses you received.

If you want an informed response, Steve is the only person currently
active on this ng who can supply it. To try for more than one
informed response, post your question at
http://forum.dragondoor.com/training/

In addition, you might get some ideas by reading articles at
http://www.dragondoor.com/articler/mode2/Kettlebells

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Apart from the humor value (such as it is), pay no attention to the
first three responses you received.

If you want an informed response, Steve is the only person currently
active on this ng who can supply it.

What do you mean?! Ok, the curly hair ancestry part was a speculation.

I maintain that I have more experience with kettlebells than Steve,
both in terms of years and the variety of ways used!

But do you have the golden galoshes, trunks and kettlebells??

Those items would surely qualify you as an expert.

DZ said:

Quoted message said:

Apart from the humor value (such as it is), pay no attention to the
first three responses you received.

If you want an informed response, Steve is the only person currently
active on this ng who can supply it.

What do you mean?! Ok, the curly hair ancestry part was a speculation.

I maintain that I have more experience with kettlebells than Steve,
both in terms of years and the variety of ways used!

DZ

I bet they'd make for a fun variation on lawn darts.

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Proton Soup

"And all this peace has been deceiving,
I need some wind to get me sailing"

Proton Soup said:

DZ said:

Quoted message said:

Apart from the humor value (such as it is), pay no attention to the
first three responses you received.

If you want an informed response, Steve is the only person currently
active on this ng who can supply it.

What do you mean?! Ok, the curly hair ancestry part was a speculation.

I maintain that I have more experience with kettlebells than Steve,
both in terms of years and the variety of ways used!

I bet they'd make for a fun variation on lawn darts.

I'll bet they'd be handy as a miniature battering ram, too.

--

JMW
http://www.rustyiron.net

JMW said:

Proton Soup said:

DZ said:

[email hidden] <[email hidden]> wrote:
> Apart from the humor value (such as it is), pay no attention to the
> first three responses you received.
>
> If you want an informed response, Steve is the only person currently
> active on this ng who can supply it.

What do you mean?! Ok, the curly hair ancestry part was a speculation.

I maintain that I have more experience with kettlebells than Steve,
both in terms of years and the variety of ways used!

I bet they'd make for a fun variation on lawn darts.

I'll bet they'd be handy as a miniature battering ram, too.

The reasoning behind that observation isn't too clear JW!!

HAGW!

TFIF!

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frank-in-toronto said:

We have a kettlebell guy coming to the gym next week. He'll be
giving 2 introductory classes and then most likely we'll set
up a series of 8.

What should I be looking for?

An expensive paper weight...

--
Will Brink @ http://www.brinkzone.com/

"Steve Freides" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

"DZ" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Apart from the humor value (such as it is), pay no attention to the
first three responses you received.

If you want an informed response, Steve is the only person currently
active on this ng who can supply it.

What do you mean?! Ok, the curly hair ancestry part was a speculation.

I maintain that I have more experience with kettlebells than Steve,
both in terms of years and the variety of ways used!

Hey, now, an "I'm a bigger kettlebell dork than he is" pissing match!
Right on!!

🙂

How about a good old fashioned, TRADITIONAL duel?

Kettlebells at five paces.

May the best man win.

Steve Freides said:

"DZ" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Apart from the humor value (such as it is), pay no attention to the
first three responses you received.

If you want an informed response, Steve is the only person currently
active on this ng who can supply it.

What do you mean?! Ok, the curly hair ancestry part was a speculation.

I maintain that I have more experience with kettlebells than Steve,
both in terms of years and the variety of ways used!

Hey, now, an "I'm a bigger kettlebell dork than he is" pissing match!
Right on!!

Personally, I don't think either of you are "dorks", just much
misunderstood!! ;o)

Have a great weekend Steve - you know I will!! ;o)

TFIF!!

Steve Freides said:

"DZ" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Apart from the humor value (such as it is), pay no attention to the
first three responses you received.

If you want an informed response, Steve is the only person currently
active on this ng who can supply it.

What do you mean?! Ok, the curly hair ancestry part was a speculation.

I maintain that I have more experience with kettlebells than Steve,
both in terms of years and the variety of ways used!

Hey, now, an "I'm a bigger kettlebell dork than he is" pissing match!
Right on!!

🙂

He may have out-kettlebelled you, but you've out-dorked him.

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Proton Soup

"And all this peace has been deceiving,
I need some wind to get me sailing"

Quoted message said:

frank-in-toronto said:

We have a kettlebell guy coming to the gym next week. He'll be
giving 2 introductory classes and then most likely we'll set
up a series of 8.

What should I be looking for? I want to get as much out of
this as I can.
...thehick

Apart from the humor value (such as it is), pay no attention to the
first three responses you received.

If you want an informed response, Steve is the only person currently
active on this ng who can supply it. To try for more than one
informed response, post your question at
http://forum.dragondoor.com/training/

In addition, you might get some ideas by reading articles at
http://www.dragondoor.com/articler/mode2/Kettlebells

i'll be checking the dragondoor site and others. i'm interested
in the functional strength aspect mostly. i'm not trying
to add weight (in fact, losing a little wouldn't hurt
my running), but I would like to be stronger. If i can
get some short (time-wise) exercises out of this,
I'll be very pleased.
thanks for the suggestions...thehick

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

frank-in-toronto said:

We have a kettlebell guy coming to the gym next week. He'll be
giving 2 introductory classes and then most likely we'll set
up a series of 8.

What should I be looking for? I want to get as much out of
this as I can.
...thehick

Apart from the humor value (such as it is), pay no attention to the
first three responses you received.

If you want an informed response, Steve is the only person currently
active on this ng who can supply it. To try for more than one
informed response, post your question at
http://forum.dragondoor.com/training/

In addition, you might get some ideas by reading articles at
http://www.dragondoor.com/articler/mode2/Kettlebells

i'll be checking the dragondoor site and others. i'm interested
in the functional strength aspect mostly. i'm not trying
to add weight (in fact, losing a little wouldn't hurt
my running), but I would like to be stronger. If i can
get some short (time-wise) exercises out of this,
I'll be very pleased.
thanks for the suggestions...thehick

You ought to watch Pavel's "Russian Kettlebell Challenge" video and/or
get the book of the same name. Both is best as the video shows the
techniques but the book gives a lot more explanation.
http://www.kbnj.com/rkc.htm

-S-
http://www.kbnj.com

frank-in-toronto said:

Quoted message said:

frank-in-toronto said:

We have a kettlebell guy coming to the gym next week. He'll be
giving 2 introductory classes and then most likely we'll set
up a series of 8.

What should I be looking for? I want to get as much out of
this as I can.
...thehick

Apart from the humor value (such as it is), pay no attention to the
first three responses you received.

If you want an informed response, Steve is the only person currently
active on this ng who can supply it. To try for more than one
informed response, post your question at
http://forum.dragondoor.com/training/

In addition, you might get some ideas by reading articles at
http://www.dragondoor.com/articler/mode2/Kettlebells

i'll be checking the dragondoor site and others. i'm interested
in the functional strength aspect mostly. i'm not trying
to add weight (in fact, losing a little wouldn't hurt
my running), but I would like to be stronger. If i can
get some short (time-wise) exercises out of this,
I'll be very pleased.
thanks for the suggestions...thehick

Check out http://www.dragondoor.com/cgi-bin/instructor.pl#Ontario
for Certified Russian Kettlebell Challenge Instructors (RKC) in
Ontario.

frank-in-toronto said:

Quoted message said:

frank-in-toronto said:

We have a kettlebell guy coming to the gym next week. He'll be
giving 2 introductory classes and then most likely we'll set
up a series of 8.

What should I be looking for? I want to get as much out of
this as I can.
...thehick

Apart from the humor value (such as it is), pay no attention to the
first three responses you received.

If you want an informed response, Steve is the only person currently
active on this ng who can supply it. To try for more than one
informed response, post your question at
http://forum.dragondoor.com/training/

In addition, you might get some ideas by reading articles at
http://www.dragondoor.com/articler/mode2/Kettlebells

i'll be checking the dragondoor site and others. i'm interested
in the functional strength aspect mostly. i'm not trying
to add weight (in fact, losing a little wouldn't hurt
my running), but I would like to be stronger. If i can
get some short (time-wise) exercises out of this,
I'll be very pleased.
thanks for the suggestions...thehick

Powerlifters are said to make good furniture movers. Doesn't get much
more practical than that.

-----------
Proton Soup

"And all this peace has been deceiving,
I need some wind to get me sailing"

On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:31:27 -0500, Proton Soup <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

frank-in-toronto said:

Quoted message said:

On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 17:03:00 -0400, frank-in-toronto
<[email hidden]> wrote:

>We have a kettlebell guy coming to the gym next week. He'll be
>giving 2 introductory classes and then most likely we'll set
>up a series of 8.
>
>What should I be looking for? I want to get as much out of
>this as I can.
>...thehick

Apart from the humor value (such as it is), pay no attention to the
first three responses you received.

If you want an informed response, Steve is the only person currently
active on this ng who can supply it. To try for more than one
informed response, post your question at
http://forum.dragondoor.com/training/

In addition, you might get some ideas by reading articles at
http://www.dragondoor.com/articler/mode2/Kettlebells

i'll be checking the dragondoor site and others. i'm interested
in the functional strength aspect mostly. i'm not trying
to add weight (in fact, losing a little wouldn't hurt
my running), but I would like to be stronger. If i can
get some short (time-wise) exercises out of this,
I'll be very pleased.
thanks for the suggestions...thehick

Powerlifters are said to make good furniture movers. Doesn't get much
more practical than that.

What's the technique for lowering the weight during a deadlift?
Oh, ok, put the piano down over there.

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On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:31:27 -0500, Proton Soup <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

frank-in-toronto said:

On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 02:59:36 GMT, [email hidden] wrote:

>On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 17:03:00 -0400, frank-in-toronto
><[email hidden]> wrote:
>
>>We have a kettlebell guy coming to the gym next week. He'll be
>>giving 2 introductory classes and then most likely we'll set
>>up a series of 8.
>>
>>What should I be looking for? I want to get as much out of
>>this as I can.
>>...thehick
>
>Apart from the humor value (such as it is), pay no attention to the
>first three responses you received.
>
>If you want an informed response, Steve is the only person currently
>active on this ng who can supply it. To try for more than one
>informed response, post your question at
>http://forum.dragondoor.com/training/
>
>In addition, you might get some ideas by reading articles at
>http://www.dragondoor.com/articler/mode2/Kettlebells
i'll be checking the dragondoor site and others. i'm interested
in the functional strength aspect mostly. i'm not trying
to add weight (in fact, losing a little wouldn't hurt
my running), but I would like to be stronger. If i can
get some short (time-wise) exercises out of this,
I'll be very pleased.
thanks for the suggestions...thehick

Powerlifters are said to make good furniture movers. Doesn't get much
more practical than that.

What's the technique for lowering the weight during a deadlift?
Oh, ok, put the piano down over there.

FWIW, I think the front squat is the movement with the most carryover to
moving furniture, shrubs, etc. Probably a sandbag front squat at that,
but a barbell or 2-kb front squat isn't bad.

-S-
http://www.kbnj.com

Steve Freides said:

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On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:31:27 -0500, Proton Soup <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:16:29 -0400, frank-in-toronto
<[email hidden]> wrote:

>On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 02:59:36 GMT, [email hidden] wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 17:03:00 -0400, frank-in-toronto
>><[email hidden]> wrote:
>>
>>>We have a kettlebell guy coming to the gym next week. He'll be
>>>giving 2 introductory classes and then most likely we'll set
>>>up a series of 8.
>>>
>>>What should I be looking for? I want to get as much out of
>>>this as I can.
>>>...thehick
>>
>>Apart from the humor value (such as it is), pay no attention to the
>>first three responses you received.
>>
>>If you want an informed response, Steve is the only person currently
>>active on this ng who can supply it. To try for more than one
>>informed response, post your question at
>>http://forum.dragondoor.com/training/
>>
>>In addition, you might get some ideas by reading articles at
>>http://www.dragondoor.com/articler/mode2/Kettlebells
>i'll be checking the dragondoor site and others. i'm interested
>in the functional strength aspect mostly. i'm not trying
>to add weight (in fact, losing a little wouldn't hurt
>my running), but I would like to be stronger. If i can
>get some short (time-wise) exercises out of this,
>I'll be very pleased.
>thanks for the suggestions...thehick

Powerlifters are said to make good furniture movers. Doesn't get much
more practical than that.

What's the technique for lowering the weight during a deadlift?
Oh, ok, put the piano down over there.

FWIW, I think the front squat is the movement with the most carryover to
moving furniture, shrubs, etc. Probably a sandbag front squat at that,
but a barbell or 2-kb front squat isn't bad.

-S-
http://www.kbnj.com

And how am I supposed to attach my StingRay
http://www.qfac.com/gear/stingray.html to a shrub?

The BB front squat? Not something to build strength endurance. 3 reps
are enough. Stresses the wrists and shoulders. Tough on the knees if
the FSs are high.

The 2 KB FS. Fine for strength endurance and doesn't stress the
wrists.

I agree that rounded-back lifting (sandbags) would be a great addition
to a S&C program for furniture movers.

Toss in the basic powerlifts and KB drills that involve lifting
weights at odd angles and in quirky positions and you've got yourself
a first-class furniture mover. (Be sure he's fully insured!)

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Steve Freides said:

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Quoted message said:

On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:31:27 -0500, Proton Soup <[email hidden]>
wrote:

>On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:16:29 -0400, frank-in-toronto
><[email hidden]> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 02:59:36 GMT, [email hidden] wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 17:03:00 -0400, frank-in-toronto
>>><[email hidden]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>We have a kettlebell guy coming to the gym next week. He'll be
>>>>giving 2 introductory classes and then most likely we'll set
>>>>up a series of 8.
>>>>
>>>>What should I be looking for? I want to get as much out of
>>>>this as I can.
>>>>...thehick
>>>
>>>Apart from the humor value (such as it is), pay no attention to
>>>the
>>>first three responses you received.
>>>
>>>If you want an informed response, Steve is the only person
>>>currently
>>>active on this ng who can supply it. To try for more than one
>>>informed response, post your question at
>>>http://forum.dragondoor.com/training/
>>>
>>>In addition, you might get some ideas by reading articles at
>>>http://www.dragondoor.com/articler/mode2/Kettlebells
>>i'll be checking the dragondoor site and others. i'm interested
>>in the functional strength aspect mostly. i'm not trying
>>to add weight (in fact, losing a little wouldn't hurt
>>my running), but I would like to be stronger. If i can
>>get some short (time-wise) exercises out of this,
>>I'll be very pleased.
>>thanks for the suggestions...thehick
>
>Powerlifters are said to make good furniture movers. Doesn't get
>much
>more practical than that.

What's the technique for lowering the weight during a deadlift?
Oh, ok, put the piano down over there.

FWIW, I think the front squat is the movement with the most carryover
to
moving furniture, shrubs, etc. Probably a sandbag front squat at
that,
but a barbell or 2-kb front squat isn't bad.

-S-
http://www.kbnj.com

And how am I supposed to attach my StingRay
http://www.qfac.com/gear/stingray.html to a shrub?

Beats me. 🙂

Quoted message said:

The BB front squat? Not something to build strength endurance. 3 reps
are enough. Stresses the wrists and shoulders. Tough on the knees if
the FSs are high.

No reason one can't work a lot of sets on this after first working up to
it, and one can build strength/endurance with short sets on short rests.

Quoted message said:

The 2 KB FS. Fine for strength endurance and doesn't stress the
wrists.

Yup - I really like this move with kettlebells. I am going to work on
doing it with a pair of 88's.

Either way, my point is that holding the weight in front of you is more
like moving most stuff.

-S-
http://www.kbnj.com

Quoted message said:

I agree that rounded-back lifting (sandbags) would be a great addition
to a S&C program for furniture movers.

Toss in the basic powerlifts and KB drills that involve lifting
weights at odd angles and in quirky positions and you've got yourself
a first-class furniture mover. (Be sure he's fully insured!)