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  1. [quote="Passover mensch"]
    To "Count the Omer" is not the same as the unit of dry weight. Like a
    modern "peck or bushel," on omer is a unit of dry volume.

    Here is a little about "Count the Omer"

    During the time of the Beis Hamikdosh [2nd Temple], there was a mitzvah
    on the second night of Pesach(Passover) to harvest a measurement of
    three sa'ah of barley. The following day, (the second day of Pesach),
    there was a mitzvah (Blessing or ggood deed) to bring a portion of this
    harvest, the size of an omer [about 3.3 dry liters], to the Beis
    Hamikdosh. On the fiftieth day, after the forty-nine days of counting,
    there was a mitzvah to bring the first offering of the year from new
    wheat. Nowadays, since we do not have a Beis Hamikdash, the Omer is
    neither harvested nor offered. Nevertheless, there is still a mitzvah
    to count the Omer.

    The count goes for 49 days. The 50th night begins the holiday of
    Shavuos; Shavuos means "weeks," referring to these 7 weeks of counting.
    Shavuos is the day G-d gave the Torah, and thus the entire counting
    period becomes one of continuous elevation and preparation - from the
    status of an Egyptian slave to one ready to receive the Torah.

    The mitzvah is to count both days and weeks. Therefore, on the eighth
    day, we say, "today is eight days, which are one week and one day in
    the omer." The Omer may be counted in any language, as long as it is
    understood by the counter.

    The Jewish days begin at sundown, and we wait until full dark to count
    the Omer.

    Each day, one says the blessing:

    Blessed are You, A-d-noy, our G-d, King of the universe, Who has
    sanctified us with His commandments and has commanded us concerning the
    counting of the Omer.

    Then one says (for the first six days):

    Today is ___ day[s] of the Omer.

    After 6 days, one includes the weeks:

    Today is ___ days, which are ___ week[s] [and ___ day[s]], of the
    Omer.

    For example: Today is 22 days, which are 3 weeks and 1 day of the Omer.

    Then one concludes:

    The Merciful One, may He return to us the service of the Temple to
    its place, speedily in our days. Amen, Selah!

    Many say additional prayers as found in most any Siddur (prayer book).

    One must count in a language which he or she understands - thus I have
    offered the English here, while the Hebrew can again be found in a
    Siddur.

    If one forgets to count on any evening, one may count during the
    daylight hours of the following day without a blessing, and then resume
    counting with a blessing that evening. However, if one forgets to count
    during an entire day (until sundown the following day), then one may
    not say a blessing again, but must count the Omer without a blessing.
    Thus remembering to count the Omer is very important![/quote]

    The omer is important for the entirety of mankind because it represents
    the "right" amount of food (manna) that should be eaten daily by the
    Lord's design. Blessed are the people of Israel who were first to learn
    this lesson in their walk with Him during their 40 years in the desert
    where the Lord provided both freedom (releasing them from Egyptian
    slavery) and food (manna).

    From Deuteronomy 8:

    2 Remember how the LORD your God led you all the way in the desert these
    forty years, to humble you and to test you in order to know what was in
    your heart, whether or not you would keep His commands. 3 He humbled
    you, causing you to hunger and then feeding you with manna, which
    neither you nor your fathers had known, to teach you that man does not
    live on bread alone but on every word that comes from the mouth of the
    LORD . 4 Your clothes did not wear out and your feet did not swell
    during these forty years.

    May the Lord bless the writing of His Word here on Usenet, in Jesus'
    holy name.

    Amen.

    Writing as a cardiologist, the "your feet did not swell" would indicate
    the absence of any vascular disease as a consequence of eating an omer
    of food (manna) daily per the Lord's command as described by Exodus
    16:16.

    At His service,

    Andrew

    --
    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist

    **
    Suggested Reading:
    (1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
    (2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U2A821CEA
    (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
    (4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
    (5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
    (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
    (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

  2. X-No-Archive: Yes

    "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Writing as a cardiologist, the "your feet did not swell" would indicate
    the absence of any vascular disease as a consequence of eating an omer
    of food (manna) daily per the Lord's command as described by Exodus
    16:16.


    ======================
    But what did the manna consist of? You seem to leave that part out every
    time. Was it greens? Baked lamb? Wheat cakes?

    Wysong
    Age 60. Height 5'6"
    Starting date: 1/8/05
    171/ 163 / 140 lb
    ~~<~~<~~{@ ~~<~~<~~{@ ~~<~~<~~{@

  3. [quote="Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"][quote="Passover mensch"]To "Count the Omer" is not the same as the unit of dry weight. Like a
    modern "peck or bushel," on omer is a unit of dry volume.

    Here is a little about "Count the Omer"

    During the time of the Beis Hamikdosh [2nd Temple], there was a mitzvah
    on the second night of Pesach(Passover) to harvest a measurement of
    three sa'ah of barley. The following day, (the second day of Pesach),
    there was a mitzvah (Blessing or ggood deed) to bring a portion of this
    harvest, the size of an omer [about 3.3 dry liters], to the Beis
    Hamikdosh. On the fiftieth day, after the forty-nine days of counting,
    there was a mitzvah to bring the first offering of the year from new
    wheat. Nowadays, since we do not have a Beis Hamikdash, the Omer is
    neither harvested nor offered. Nevertheless, there is still a mitzvah
    to count the Omer.

    The count goes for 49 days. The 50th night begins the holiday of
    Shavuos; Shavuos means "weeks," referring to these 7 weeks of counting.
    Shavuos is the day G-d gave the Torah, and thus the entire counting
    period becomes one of continuous elevation and preparation - from the
    status of an Egyptian slave to one ready to receive the Torah.

    The mitzvah is to count both days and weeks. Therefore, on the eighth
    day, we say, "today is eight days, which are one week and one day in
    the omer." The Omer may be counted in any language, as long as it is
    understood by the counter.

    The Jewish days begin at sundown, and we wait until full dark to count
    the Omer.

    Each day, one says the blessing:

    Blessed are You, A-d-noy, our G-d, King of the universe, Who has
    sanctified us with His commandments and has commanded us concerning the
    counting of the Omer.

    Then one says (for the first six days):

    Today is ___ day[s] of the Omer.

    After 6 days, one includes the weeks:

    Today is ___ days, which are ___ week[s] [and ___ day[s]], of the
    Omer.

    For example: Today is 22 days, which are 3 weeks and 1 day of the Omer.

    Then one concludes:

    The Merciful One, may He return to us the service of the Temple to
    its place, speedily in our days. Amen, Selah!

    Many say additional prayers as found in most any Siddur (prayer book).

    One must count in a language which he or she understands - thus I have
    offered the English here, while the Hebrew can again be found in a
    Siddur.

    If one forgets to count on any evening, one may count during the
    daylight hours of the following day without a blessing, and then resume
    counting with a blessing that evening. However, if one forgets to count
    during an entire day (until sundown the following day), then one may
    not say a blessing again, but must count the Omer without a blessing.
    Thus remembering to count the Omer is very important![/quote]


    The omer is important for the entirety of mankind because it represents
    the "right" amount of food (manna) that should be eaten daily by the
    Lord's design. Blessed are the people of Israel who were first to learn
    this lesson in their walk with Him during their 40 years in the desert
    where the Lord provided both freedom (releasing them from Egyptian
    slavery) and food (manna).

    From Deuteronomy 8:

    2 Remember how the LORD your God led you all the way in the desert these
    forty years, to humble you and to test you in order to know what was in
    your heart, whether or not you would keep His commands. 3 He humbled
    you, causing you to hunger and then feeding you with manna, which
    neither you nor your fathers had known, to teach you that man does not
    live on bread alone but on every word that comes from the mouth of the
    LORD . 4 Your clothes did not wear out and your feet did not swell
    during these forty years.

    May the Lord bless the writing of His Word here on Usenet, in Jesus'
    holy name.

    Amen.

    Writing as a cardiologist, the "your feet did not swell" would indicate
    the absence of any vascular disease as a consequence of eating an omer
    of food (manna) daily per the Lord's command as described by Exodus
    16:16.

    At His service,

    Andrew

    --
    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist

    **
    Suggested Reading:
    (1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
    (2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U2A821CEA
    (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
    (4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
    (5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
    (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
    (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129[/quote]


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  4. Andrew B. Chung said:

    The omer is important for the entirety of mankind because it represents
    the "right" amount of food (manna)

    Chung, Manna is a TYPE of food provided by God to meet a particular
    need, at a particular time in our history. A miraculous food, with some
    very special properties.

    An omer, be it a measure or container, may well be the right amount for
    MANNA. There is absolutely no indication, Biblical or historical, that
    the same quantity of other types of food will supply the same
    nutritional values as Manna.

    One would presume that a kilo of a food provided by God would be pretty
    special. You are arrogantly presuming that a kilo of *anything* would
    match the value of God's gift. You don't seem to hold God in very high
    regard with an attitude like that. Not a good example of a Christian it
    would seem.

    You really do seem to have a fews problems with, reality, logic, and
    understanding what an omer actually is.

    BTW, have you got around to reading Exodus 16:16 yet?

    Your previous references and claims about it would indicate that you
    hadn't. It doesn't in any way indicate that an omer is two pounds.

    When you finish reading Exodus 16:16, try Exodus 16:17-18 where it tells
    you that people "gathered every man according to his eating", (they
    weren't on diets, you see Chung) so they *DIDN'T* all gather the same
    amount, some gathered much, some gathered little, yet when measured it
    always exactly filled the omer. Do you think that perhaps Manna had some
    properties that something like, say, Pizza lacks?

    Do you really think that a kilo of junk food has the same value as a
    kilo of Manna? Aside from the fact that leftover Manna would rot every
    day except the Sabbath, it seems that no matter how much you collected,
    you ended up with just enough to provide for your sustenance. Now if
    they could make Pizzas and other junk food with those properties, there
    would be *no* fat people. Why don't you leave the newsgroups alone and
    spend your time praying for a recipe for heavenly pizzas or Manna
    burgers? If God truly wants you to lead the way in fighting obesity, I
    am sure that he will oblige. If he doesn't - well there's your answer.

    Regards

    David

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  5. "Wysong *~" <invalid@invalid> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    But what did the manna consist of? You seem to leave that part out every
    time. Was it greens? Baked lamb? Wheat cakes?

    Wysong
    Age 60. Height 5'6"
    Starting date: 1/8/05
    171/ 163 / 140 lb
    ~~<~~<~~{@ ~~<~~<~~{@ ~~<~~<~~{@


    I don't receive the Chung junk as he's in my killfile. Manna is in fact a
    sweet substance appearing at certain seasons on a wide range of plants.
    Three mannas have importance as food. The best known is tamarisk manna
    which is high in sugars. It is traditionally prepared by boiling in water
    and clarifying with eggs. The resulting syrup is most often made into a
    sort of Halva with the addition of more eggs and perhaps almonds, and
    probably would not be appropriate for a low carb diet. I won't bore you
    with all the rest. However I expect you're enquiry is about the stuff that
    shows up in the bible which is miraculous and provided by God or the vivid
    imagination of whoever wrote the fairy tale; anyway this certainly has
    properties different from any of the known vegetable mannas!

  6. J. David Anderson said:


    Andrew B. Chung said:

    The omer is important for the entirety of mankind because it represents
    the "right" amount of food (manna)

    Chung, Manna is a TYPE of food provided by God to meet a particular
    need, at a particular time in our history. A miraculous food, with some
    very special properties.

    Not according to the Lord.

    Quoted message said:

    An omer, be it a measure or container, may well be the right amount for
    MANNA. There is absolutely no indication, Biblical or historical, that
    the same quantity of other types of food will supply the same
    nutritional values as Manna.

    However, Exodus 16:16 indicates that there is a "right" amount that is
    the **same** amount for all.

    Quoted message said:

    One would presume that a kilo of a food provided by God would be pretty
    special.

    In truth, all food provided by God is special.

    Quoted message said:

    You are arrogantly presuming that a kilo of *anything* would
    match the value of God's gift.

    That would be **your** judgment about both my arrogance and the value of
    the food that God gives us, and not the Lord's.

    I am thankful to the Lord for the food He continues to give me everyday.

    Quoted message said:

    You don't seem to hold God in very high regard with an attitude like that.

    It seems you have no clue.

    Quoted message said:

    Not a good example of a Christian it would seem.

    Would suggest you open your eyes.

    Quoted message said:

    You really do seem to have a fews problems with, reality, logic, and
    understanding what an omer actually is.

    It seems you are gazing into a mirror.

    Quoted message said:

    BTW, have you got around to reading Exodus 16:16 yet?

    Whenever I give a seminar about the 2PD-OMER Approach, I quote it from
    memory.

    Quoted message said:

    Your previous references and claims about it would indicate that you
    hadn't. It doesn't in any way indicate that an omer is two pounds.

    It does indicate that the omer is the "right" amount of food (manna) for
    everyone.

    Quoted message said:

    When you finish reading Exodus 16:16, try Exodus 16:17-18 where it tells
    you that people "gathered every man according to his eating", (they
    weren't on diets, you see Chung) so they *DIDN'T* all gather the same
    amount, some gathered much, some gathered little, yet when measured it
    always exactly filled the omer. Do you think that perhaps Manna had some
    properties that something like, say, Pizza lacks?

    No. In truth, Exodus 16:17-18 reads as follows:

    17 The Israelites did as they were told; some gathered much, some
    little. 18 And when they measured it by the omer, he who gathered much
    did not have too much, and he who gathered little did not have too
    little. Each one gathered as much as he needed.

    You can just as easily replace omer with the word kilo and not change
    the meaning of this passage.

    However, it is clear from Exodus 16:33 which reads as follows:

    33 So Moses said to Aaron, "Take a jar and put an omer of manna in it.
    Then place it before the LORD to be kept for the generations to come."

    that an omer is **not** a jar (or container) as you would assert.

    Quoted message said:

    Do you really think that a kilo of junk food has the same value as a
    kilo of Manna?

    "If the Lord blesses a kilogram of **any** food, it will have the same
    sustaining value as a kilogram of manna."

    Quoted message said:

    Aside from the fact that leftover Manna would rot every
    day except the Sabbath, it seems that no matter how much you collected,
    you ended up with just enough to provide for your sustenance. Now if
    they could make Pizzas and other junk food with those properties, there
    would be *no* fat people.

    "For obesity, it is how much you eat and not what you eat that matters
    most."

    Quoted message said:

    Why don't you leave the newsgroups alone and
    spend your time praying for a recipe for heavenly pizzas or Manna
    burgers?

    It remains my choice to continue walking with my Lord, Whom I love with
    all my heart, soul, mind, and strength :-)

    Quoted message said:

    If God truly wants you to lead the way in fighting obesity, I
    am sure that he will oblige.

    The Lord has obliged by enabling me.

    Quoted message said:

    If he doesn't - well there's your answer.

    The Lord's answer is archived in Google where you will find evidence
    that he has enabled me:

    http://makeashorterlink.com/?L28B614FA

    Truth is simple:

    http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A

    The way to the truth is straight and narrow:

    http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A

    You will be in my prayers, dear David, whom I love, in Christ's holy
    name.

    May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord and
    Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the
    fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom.

    Here's how:

    http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

    Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
    the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
    is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2
    arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
    Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
    2PD-OMER Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make
    His presence known here on Usenet :-)

    Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
    oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
    "omer" literally means in Hebrew.

    Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach, which can "cure" metabolic syndrome (MetS)
    thereby bringing this thread back on topic for the medical NGs :-)

    http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

    At His service,

    Andrew

    --
    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist

    **
    Suggested Reading:
    (1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048
    (2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?V113154DA
    (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
    (4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
    (5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
    (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
    (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

  7. Wysong *~ said:


    X-No-Archive: Yes

    "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Writing as a cardiologist, the "your feet did not swell" would indicate
    the absence of any vascular disease as a consequence of eating an omer
    of food (manna) daily per the Lord's command as described by Exodus
    16:16.


    ======================
    But what did the manna consist of?

    Does not matter. If it did, the Lord would have told us.

    Truth is simple:

    http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A

    The way to the truth is straight and narrow:

    http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A

    You will remain in my prayers, dear neighbor, whom I love, in Christ's
    holy name.

    May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord and
    Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the
    fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom.

    Here's how:

    http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

    Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
    the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
    is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2
    arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
    Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
    2PD-OMER Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make
    His presence known here on Usenet :-)

    Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
    oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
    "omer" literally means in Hebrew.

    Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach, which can "cure" metabolic syndrome (MetS)
    thereby bringing this thread back on topic for the medical NGs :-)

    http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

    At His service,

    Andrew

    --
    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist

    **
    Suggested Reading:
    (1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048
    (2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?V113154DA
    (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
    (4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
    (5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
    (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
    (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

  8. Andrew B. Chung said:

    Does not matter. If it did, the Lord would have told us.

    Then what's the point of your brain?

  9. On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:30:25 -0700, Stacey Bender <[email hidden]>
    Huffed and Puffed the following into the madness of usenet:

    Quoted message said:
    Andrew B. Chung said:

    Does not matter. If it did, the Lord would have told us.

    Then what's the point of your brain?

    that's the apex of his skull. an odd shape that, but directly related
    to the amount of pressure his mother put on his head when slamming it
    against the floor repeatedly.

    please trim your headers if you must reply to the chung troll.

  10. Stacey Bender said:


    Andrew B. Chung said:

    Does not matter. If it did, the Lord would have told us.

    Then what's the point of your brain?

    To enable me to fulfill the purpose of the Lord, Whom I love with all my
    heart, soul, **brain**, and strength :-)

    Truth is simple:

    http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A

    The way to the truth is straight and narrow:

    http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A

    You will remain in my prayers, dear Stacy whom I love, in Christ's holy
    name.

    May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord and
    Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the
    fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom.

    Here's how:

    http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

    Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
    the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
    is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2
    arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
    Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
    2PD-OMER Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make
    His presence known here on Usenet :-)

    Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
    oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
    "omer" literally means in Hebrew.

    Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach, which can "cure" metabolic syndrome (MetS)
    thereby bringing this thread back on topic for these NGs :-)

    http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

    At His service,

    Andrew

    --
    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist

    **
    Suggested Reading:
    (1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048
    (2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?V113154DA
    (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
    (4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
    (5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
    (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
    (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

  11. Andrew B. Chung said:
    Stacey Bender said:
    Andrew B. Chung said:

    Does not matter. If it did, the Lord would have told us.

    Then what's the point of your brain?

    To enable me to fulfill the purpose of the Lord, Whom I love with all my
    heart, soul, **brain**, and strength :-)

    As a MD you seem very unaware of how the brain works.

  12. "Stacey Bender" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Andrew B. Chung said:
    Stacey Bender said:

    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

    >Does not matter. If it did, the Lord would have told us.

    Then what's the point of your brain?

    To enable me to fulfill the purpose of the Lord, Whom I love with all my
    heart, soul, **brain**, and strength :-)

    As a MD you seem very unaware of how the brain works.

    LOL the poor doc missed class on explaining the brain is a muscle too.

    then again, what do you expect from someone who talks out his [censored]

  13. Stacey Bender said:


    Andrew B. Chung said:
    Stacey Bender said:

    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

    >Does not matter. If it did, the Lord would have told us.

    Then what's the point of your brain?

    To enable me to fulfill the purpose of the Lord, Whom I love with all my
    heart, soul, **brain**, and strength :-)

    As a MD you seem very unaware of how the brain works.

    Look to RK is you want an example of someone who truly is "unaware of
    how the brain works."

    "The brain is a muscle."

    -RK

    Truth is simple:

    http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A

    The way to the truth is straight and narrow:

    http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A

    You will remain in my prayers, dear Stacey, whom I love, in Christ's
    holy name.

    May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord and
    Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the
    fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom.

    Here's how:

    http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

    Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
    the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
    is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2
    arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
    Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
    2PD-OMER Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make
    His presence known here on Usenet :-)

    Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
    oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
    "omer" literally means in Hebrew.

    Enter the diabetic 2PD-OMER Approach, which can "cure" type 2 diabetes
    thereby bringing this thread back on topic :-)

    http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

    At His service,

    Andrew

    --
    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist

    **
    Suggested Reading:
    (1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048
    (2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?V113154DA
    (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
    (4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
    (5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
    (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
    (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

  14. RK said:


    "Stacey Bender" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Andrew B. Chung said:

    Stacey Bender wrote:

    >Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
    >
    >>Does not matter. If it did, the Lord would have told us.
    >
    >Then what's the point of your brain?

    To enable me to fulfill the purpose of the Lord, Whom I love with all my
    heart, soul, **brain**, and strength :-)

    As a MD you seem very unaware of how the brain works.

    LOL

    "Written laughter is silent despair."

    Quoted message said:

    the poor doc missed class on explaining the brain is a muscle too.

    Thanks for providing yourself as an example of someone who truly does
    not know how the brain works, dear neighbor.

    You are certainly welcome to exercise that muscle between your ears to
    convince Stacy that your brain works as a muscle :-)

    Truth is simple:

    http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A

    The way to the truth is straight and narrow:

    http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A

    You will remain in my prayers, dear neighbor, whom I love, in Christ's
    holy name.

    May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord and
    Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the
    fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom.

    Here's how:

    http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

    Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
    the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
    is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2
    arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
    Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
    2PD-OMER Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make
    His presence known here on Usenet :-)

    Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
    oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
    "omer" literally means in Hebrew.

    Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach, which can "cure" metabolic syndrome
    thereby bringing this thread back on topic for these NGs :-)

    http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

    At His service,

    Andrew

    --
    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist

    **
    Suggested Reading:
    (1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048
    (2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?V113154DA
    (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
    (4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
    (5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
    (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
    (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

  15. RK said:

    "Stacey Bender" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Andrew B. Chung said:

    Stacey Bender wrote:

    >Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
    >
    >
    >>Does not matter. If it did, the Lord would have told us.
    >
    >Then what's the point of your brain?

    To enable me to fulfill the purpose of the Lord, Whom I love with all my
    heart, soul, **brain**, and strength :-)

    As a MD you seem very unaware of how the brain works.

    LOL the poor doc missed class on explaining the brain is a muscle too.

    The brain is a muscle?

    Do you believe that it can expand and contract? (That could be handy if
    you had a hat that didn't fit.)

    If you really believe that then I suspect that you have some pretty
    severe "musculature atrophy" problems.

    Brain tissue is a little more complex than muscle tissue, a little more
    sophisticated. You may have been confused by people comparing the brain
    with a muscle in as much as they both need to be "exercised" to perform
    at peak. The brain is definitely NOT a muscle.

    Regards

    David

    --

    To email me, please include the letters DNF anywhere in the subject line.

    All other mail is automatically deleted.

  16. J. David Anderson said:


    RK said:

    "Stacey Bender" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

    >Stacey Bender wrote:
    >
    >
    >>Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>>Does not matter. If it did, the Lord would have told us.
    >>
    >>Then what's the point of your brain?
    >
    >
    >To enable me to fulfill the purpose of the Lord, Whom I love with all my
    >heart, soul, **brain**, and strength :-)

    As a MD you seem very unaware of how the brain works.

    LOL the poor doc missed class on explaining the brain is a muscle too.

    The brain is a muscle?

    Do you believe that it can expand and contract? (That could be handy if
    you had a hat that didn't fit.)

    If you really believe that then I suspect that you have some pretty
    severe "musculature atrophy" problems.

    Brain tissue is a little more complex than muscle tissue, a little more
    sophisticated. You may have been confused by people comparing the brain
    with a muscle in as much as they both need to be "exercised" to perform
    at peak. The brain is definitely NOT a muscle.

    Correct.

    Truth is simple.

    You will remain in my prayers, dear David whom I love, in Lord Christ's
    holy name.

    May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord and
    Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the
    fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom.

    Here's how:

    http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

    Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
    the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
    is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2
    arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
    Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
    2PD-OMER Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make
    His presence known here on Usenet :-)

    Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
    oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
    "omer" literally means in Hebrew.

    Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach, which can "cure" metabolic syndrome (MetS)
    thereby bringing this thread back on topic for these NGs :-)

    http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

    At His service,

    Andrew

    --
    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist

    **
    Suggested Reading:

    (1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
    (2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U2A821CEA
    (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
    (4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
    (5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
    (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
    (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

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    "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Wysong *~ said:


    X-No-Archive: Yes

    "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Writing as a cardiologist, the "your feet did not swell" would


    indicate

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the absence of any vascular disease as a consequence of eating an omer
    of food (manna) daily per the Lord's command as described by Exodus
    16:16.


    ======================
    But what did the manna consist of?

    Does not matter. If it did, the Lord would have told us.


    ===============
    That makes no sense. How many ounces or lbs of this magic manna are we
    supposed to eat each day? Keeping in mind a lb of fatty pork has a lot more
    calories than a lb of spinach.

    Wysong
    Age 60. Height 5'6"
    Starting date: 1/8/05
    171/ 163 / 140 lb
    ~~<~~<~~{@ ~~<~~<~~{@ ~~<~~<~~{@

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    "Anthony" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Wysong *~" <invalid@invalid> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    But what did the manna consist of? You seem to leave that part out


    every

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    time. Was it greens? Baked lamb? Wheat cakes?

    Wysong
    Age 60. Height 5'6"
    Starting date: 1/8/05
    171/ 163 / 140 lb
    ~~<~~<~~{@ ~~<~~<~~{@ ~~<~~<~~{@

    However I expect you're enquiry is about the stuff that

    Quoted message said:

    shows up in the bible which is miraculous and provided by God or the vivid
    imagination of whoever wrote the fairy tale; anyway this certainly has
    properties different from any of the known vegetable mannas!


    ----------
    Or anything else on this earth. :-)

    Wysong
    Age 60. Height 5'6"
    Starting date: 1/8/05
    171/ 163 / 140 lb
    ~~<~~<~~{@ ~~<~~<~~{@ ~~<~~<~~{@

  19. Wysong *~ said:


    X-No-Archive: Yes

    "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Wysong *~ said:


    X-No-Archive: Yes

    "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    > Writing as a cardiologist, the "your feet did not swell" would


    indicate

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > the absence of any vascular disease as a consequence of eating an omer
    > of food (manna) daily per the Lord's command as described by Exodus
    > 16:16.
    ======================
    But what did the manna consist of?

    Does not matter. If it did, the Lord would have told us.


    ===============
    That makes no sense. How many ounces or lbs of this magic manna are we
    supposed to eat each day? Keeping in mind a lb of fatty pork has a lot more
    calories than a lb of spinach.

    Over time, a person's varied diet will likely average out to the
    nutritional composition of manna provided that person has asked for the
    Lord's blessing.

    At His service,

    Andrew

    --
    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist

    **
    Suggested Reading:
    (1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
    (2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U2A821CEA
    (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
    (4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
    (5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
    (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
    (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

  20. Andrew B. Chung said:
    Wysong *~ said:


    X-No-Archive: Yes

    "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Wysong *~ wrote:
    >
    > X-No-Archive: Yes
    >
    > "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in


    message

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > news:[email hidden]...
    > > Writing as a cardiologist, the "your feet did not swell"


    would

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    indicate

    Quoted message said:

    > > the absence of any vascular disease as a consequence of


    eating an omer

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > of food (manna) daily per the Lord's command as described by


    Exodus

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > 16:16.
    > ======================
    > But what did the manna consist of?

    Does not matter. If it did, the Lord would have told us.


    ===============
    That makes no sense. How many ounces or lbs of this magic manna


    are we

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    supposed to eat each day? Keeping in mind a lb of fatty pork has a


    lot more

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    calories than a lb of spinach.

    Over time, a person's varied diet will likely average out to the
    nutritional composition of manna provided that person has asked for


    the

    Quoted message said:

    Lord's blessing.


    <<snip>>

    Is this an article of faith? Because, you don't know what the
    nutritional composition of manna was, and you don't know what the
    average nutritional balance of a person on the 2PD approach (with or
    without the Lord's blessing) would be.

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