Large Marge Endomorph 3.7 Muni

Here's a pic of the frame.

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This pic just shows the clearance of the tire in the frame.

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I continue to be in awe of the girth of that tire. So is Large Marge the
new nickname?

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Wow, that's a beast! Have you had any problems with hitting your legs
on the crown of the frame?

Well done.

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The Yang said:

*I continue to be in awe of the girth of that tire. So is Large Marge
the new nickname? *

I'm pretty sure Large Marge is the name of the rim.

BTW, what size wheel is that? I'm assuming it's a 24" or 26", but it
looks smaller - probably just an illusion because of the thickness of
the tyre.

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Yang,

Large Marge is the trademarked name of our wide rim.

Andrew,

I just got back from a Jedi night ride near the Mississippi River. I
wanted to check out some good dirt trails before they get overrun by
fairweather hikers, today. It's supposed to be a beautiful day in
Minneapolis, and it will be hard to navigate around the gawkers on some
of the narrower trails. Of course, I can almost run right over them,
now. Just kidding, stupid gawking fair weather hikers.

I was more concerned about hitting my legs on the Magura brake than on
the crown. This was my first ride using a brake, so I didn't know what
to expect. I didn't hit the crown, and I didn't hit the slave cylinders
of the brake. As for using a brake, I like it. I use it seldomly, but
I see the merits of having one. It only adds 273 grams to the vehicle,
and I'll probably use it more when I get more comfortable with the
modulation.

I ran 12 psi in the tire. That seemed like a good pressure for the
combination of road and trails I was on.

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Rob,

It's a 26" rim, but the diameter of the tire measures out to be
740mm...29".

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Thanks Dave. It's funny, in the photo it looks almost like a 20" trials
wheel with tiny pedals and saddle! The thickness of the tyre seems to
confuse the brain into thinking it must be a smaller wheel (well mine
anyway :p )

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Yo,

Ain't the 24 inch LG rime due out in June? Any update on that?

Thanks!

JL

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They don't even make 24x3.7" tires yet, if they ever will, so it has to
be 26"

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Sweet ride!

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That is a monster. I am curious how it will be for bombing down rocky
slopes. The shock absortion of the tire should be great, but I wonder
if rebound will be a problem.

Scott

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will there be production frames to go along with this wheel/tire

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I wonder if the Endomorph will be faster than a 29er for fast XC racing
on singletrack? The wheel diameter will be very similar. The big fat
Endomorph will be able to plow over any rocks or roots at full speed.
The fat tire will also act as a suspension so the rider will be able to
stay in the saddle more which saves energy and allows you to keep a
faster cadence. With the right trail conditions the Endomorph could
possibly be faster.

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SurlyDave said:

*Andrew,

I just got back from a Jedi night ride near the Mississippi River. I
wanted to check out some good dirt trails before they get overrun by
fairweather hikers, today. It's supposed to be a beautiful day in
Minneapolis, and it will be hard to navigate around the gawkers on
some of the narrower trails. Of course, I can almost run right over
them, now. Just kidding, stupid gawking fair weather hikers.

I was more concerned about hitting my legs on the Magura brake than on
the crown. This was my first ride using a brake, so I didn't know
what to expect. I didn't hit the crown, and I didn't hit the slave
cylinders of the brake. As for using a brake, I like it. I use it
seldomly, but I see the merits of having one. It only adds 273 grams
to the vehicle, and I'll probably use it more when I get more
comfortable with the modulation.

I ran 12 psi in the tire. That seemed like a good pressure for the
combination of road and trails I was on.

Dave *

Thanks for that. I like the look of that braided cross-over cable. I'm
think I'm going to go all-braided for my muni upgrade. Do you know if
the outer diameter of it will fit in those little clips you get on some
bike frames (that you clip the brake cables into)? I'm thinking of
either running some of them on my new frame or sending the brake cable
through the frame itself for a portion of its journey up to the lever
(my framebuilder's idea). It's nice to know that the brake setup is
only 273g too...don't drink that 273mL drink before a ride and they make
no difference!

"Of course, I can almost run right over them, now."
- Hahaha. You should try toad hunting on it. 🙂

Andrew

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vivalargo said:

*Yo,

Ain't the 24 inch LG rime due out in June? Any update on that?

Thanks!

JL *

60% of the rims, from the original production run, were rejected. The
factory is having a hard time rolling that fat extrusion into a 24"
hoop. They had to extrude more rim stock to finish the 400 piece order
of 24" rims. That's why there has been such a delay. Late May/early
June delivery is what were shooting for.

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unicyclepa said:

*will there be production frames to go along with this wheel/tire *

Maybe.

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andrew_carter said:

*Thanks for that. I like the look of that braided cross-over cable.
I'm think I'm going to go all-braided for my muni upgrade. Do you
know if the outer diameter of it will fit in those little clips you
get on some bike frames (that you clip the brake cables into)? *

I really don't know. I've never used those clips. Our Surly cable
housing guides use zip ties to hold the housing in place.

The o.d. of the braided line is 5.5 - 6 mm. I'm not sure how roomy
those clips are.

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SurlyDave said:

*Our Surly cable housing guides use zip ties to hold the housing in
place. *

Sounds like that may be my best bet if I can track them down (the
'housing guides', not the zip ties 🙂).

Andrew

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