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  1. I been reading about fitness and weight loss and want to start exercising.
    I'm thinking about jogging and some light free weights to burn fat and build
    muscles. I don't really have more than half and hour a day so I was thing I
    might start jogging a few miles each morning with those velcro weights on my
    ankles and wrists. Right now I'm six feet, 42 years old and 236 lbs but not
    too flabby as I had a big frame. I want to get undo 200 to get out of the
    red on the bmi chart. I've got good shoes and a soccer field nearby. Any
    thoughts on how to ease in to this routine? Oh yeah, I'm not a total potatoe
    as I coach hockey and did a lot of skating over the winter.

    FB

  2. Fat censored said:


    I been reading about fitness and weight loss and want to start exercising.
    I'm thinking about jogging and some light free weights to burn fat and build
    muscles. I don't really have more than half and hour a day so I was thing I
    might start jogging a few miles each morning with those velcro weights on my
    ankles and wrists. Right now I'm six feet, 42 years old and 236 lbs but not
    too flabby as I had a big frame. I want to get undo 200 to get out of the
    red on the bmi chart. I've got good shoes and a soccer field nearby. Any
    thoughts on how to ease in to this routine? Oh yeah, I'm not a total potatoe
    as I coach hockey and did a lot of skating over the winter.

    FB

    Start with some light jogging, don't even bother with velcro weights.
    Use heavy weights. Heavy enough for you to do 3 sets of 8 reps and feel it.

  3. Forget ankle and wrist weights, they are useless and will injure you.
    To start out jog as much as you can until you are out of breath, then
    walk until you catch it, repeat. You'll soon find yourself running more
    and walking less.
    Weights: buy a set of free weights, use the program that comes with it,
    but skip the leg excercises. Do a full weight WO every other day.

  4. "True Grit" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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    Forget ankle and wrist weights, they are useless and will injure you.
    To start out jog as much as you can until you are out of breath, then
    walk until you catch it, repeat. You'll soon find yourself running more
    and walking less.
    Weights: buy a set of free weights, use the program that comes with it,
    but skip the leg excercises. Do a full weight WO every other day.

    This whole "use the program that comes with it" is so bizzarely stupid I
    can't even figure out where it's coming from. What are you thinking? Do you
    know and approve of every program that comes with every weight kit? WTF?

    To the OP: The most important thing is what no one's said yet: eat less.

    Hugh

    --
    Experience keeps a dear school, but fools will attend no other.

  5. Hugh Beyer said:

    "True Grit" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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    Quoted message said:

    Forget ankle and wrist weights, they are useless and will injure you.
    To start out jog as much as you can until you are out of breath, then
    walk until you catch it, repeat. You'll soon find yourself running
    more and walking less.
    Weights: buy a set of free weights, use the program that comes with
    it, but skip the leg excercises. Do a full weight WO every other day.

    This whole "use the program that comes with it" is so bizzarely
    stupid I can't even figure out where it's coming from. What are you
    thinking? Do you know and approve of every program that comes with
    every weight kit? WTF?

    To the OP: The most important thing is what no one's said yet: eat
    less.

    Hugh

    I miss the days where BS advice like this was always challenged...
    --
    -Larry

  6. "Geezer From The Freezer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Start with some light jogging, don't even bother with velcro weights.
    Use heavy weights. Heavy enough for you to do 3 sets of 8 reps and feel


    it.

    I want to foucs on the jogging or fast walking cause that should be the
    fastest way to lose weight. Swimming might be better but not with wieghts. I
    like the idea of the velcro wieghts cause it should help burn more calories
    faster. Anyone tired this, how much wieght did you use? Like is said i only
    have about a hlaf hour a day so a wieght regime and jogging seems like too
    much.


  7. Quoted message said:

    To the OP: The most important thing is what no one's said yet: eat less.

    Hugh


    I don't eat much. I might get too many calories from beer but at least it
    has antioxidants. I try to eat a lot of salads and fish, but that is really
    hard when I drive bus for a living.

    FB

  8. "Fat [censored]" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    To the OP: The most important thing is what no one's said yet: eat less.

    Hugh


    I don't eat much. I might get too many calories from beer but at least it
    has antioxidants. I try to eat a lot of salads and fish, but that is
    really
    hard when I drive bus for a living.

    beer has antioxidants? whatever good it MIGHT be doing you the alcohol is
    bad for you. period. you're in a rush to lose weight; drop the beer. drink
    water.

    Quoted message said:


    FB

  9. Fat censored said:
    Quoted message said:

    To the OP: The most important thing is what no one's said yet: eat less.

    I don't eat much.

    Wanna bet? Try recording it, use www.fitday.com. Don't forget to
    include the beer. You may be surprised.

    Neil

  10. the ankle/wrist weights do not significantly increase the calorie burn.

    Consider if you add a total of 4pounds of weights, you increase you
    total mass by only 2%. Running instead of walking will be more
    important.

    And running those weights cause the balance of your legs and arms to
    change. Will it directly injure you, may be not. But it may cause you
    to have a poor running form which can lead to injuries long term.

    The goal for exercise to burn calories is to get the heart rate higher
    than normal.

    SO lose the jogging weights and just run/walk, increasing the run
    portion over time.

    I don't really do weights, so I won't suggest what you need for those
    other than more reps is better than more weight per rep. (unless you
    want to do body building.)

    just go out and enjoy the run.

    ed

  11. Neil Gendzwill said:
    Fat censored said:
    Quoted message said:

    To the OP: The most important thing is what no one's said yet: eat less.

    I don't eat much.

    Wanna bet? Try recording it, use www.fitday.com. Don't forget to
    include the beer. You may be surprised.

    Following up my own post - I used fitday to enter a typical person's
    meals, starting with a breakfast of a glass of milk, two fried eggs and
    toast with margarine, then a lunch of cheeseburger, fries and a medium
    coke. At that point I stopped, because I'd already exceeded my base
    metabolic rate of around 1850 calories/day - this without supper,
    dessert, snacks, alcohol or even any bacon with my eggs. Fitday can be
    a bit of a slap in the face - try it.

    Neil

  12. "Ed Prochak" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    the ankle/wrist weights do not significantly increase the calorie burn.

    Consider if you add a total of 4pounds of weights, you increase you
    total mass by only 2%. Running instead of walking will be more
    important.

    And running those weights cause the balance of your legs and arms to
    change. Will it directly injure you, may be not. But it may cause you
    to have a poor running form which can lead to injuries long term.

    The goal for exercise to burn calories is to get the heart rate higher
    than normal.

    SO lose the jogging weights and just run/walk, increasing the run
    portion over time.

    I don't really do weights, so I won't suggest what you need for those
    other than more reps is better than more weight per rep. (unless you
    want to do body building.)

    You would have done better to stop sooner.

    Hugh

    --
    Experience keeps a dear school, but fools will attend no other.

  13. "Fat [censored]" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    To the OP: The most important thing is what no one's said yet: eat
    less.

    Hugh


    I don't eat much. I might get too many calories from beer but at least
    it
    has antioxidants. I try to eat a lot of salads and fish, but that is
    really hard when I drive bus for a living.

    FB

    Dude. You're fat, you're out of shape, you're fixing to injure yourself,
    and you're arguing with the people who are trying to help you.

    If you're fat YOU ARE EATING TOO MUCH.

    If you're overweight RUNNING WITH ANKLE WEIGHTS IS STUPID.

    If you want to keep the muscles you do have WEIGHTLIFTING HEAVY IS GOOD.

    Hugh

    --
    Experience keeps a dear school, but fools will attend no other.

  14. "Hugh Beyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Fat [censored]" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    To the OP: The most important thing is what no one's said yet: eat
    less.

    Hugh


    I don't eat much. I might get too many calories from beer but at least
    it
    has antioxidants. I try to eat a lot of salads and fish, but that is
    really hard when I drive bus for a living.

    FB

    Dude. You're fat, you're out of shape, you're fixing to injure yourself,
    and you're arguing with the people who are trying to help you.

    If you're fat YOU ARE EATING TOO MUCH.

    If you're overweight RUNNING WITH ANKLE WEIGHTS IS STUPID.

    If you want to keep the muscles you do have WEIGHTLIFTING HEAVY IS GOOD.

    go heavy or or go home.

    Quoted message said:


    Hugh

    --
    Experience keeps a dear school, but fools will attend no other.

  15. Ed Prochak wrote:

    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    I don't really do weights, so I won't suggest what you need for those
    other than more reps is better than more weight per rep. (unless you
    want to do body building.)

    What a load of [censored].

    --
    Jerry

  16. "Rosie Ruiz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    what's your rush? did you put the weight on overnight? are you planning on
    getting in shape and comitting suicide? you've got the rest of your life


    to

    Quoted message said:

    lose weight. do it right. the more responsibly you take the weight off the
    better platform you'll be building for a healthy lifestyle. i think if you
    focus on the running you'll improve quicker and you won't end up with


    aching

    Quoted message said:

    elbows from carrying stuff while you run/walk. a half hour is perfect to
    start out. run for 30 seconds walk for 30 seconds repeat for 30 minutes.

    No big rush really but my doctor thinks I might have a heart mummer or
    prolapse or something like that so the sooner I take the wieght off the
    better off I'll be.

    It looks like everyone thinks I shouldn't use the velcro wiedghts, are they
    good for anything?

  17. "Rosie Ruiz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    beer has antioxidants?

    Yup, in small quantites beer is good for you. Small is the hard part.

    whatever good it MIGHT be doing you the alcohol is

    Quoted message said:

    bad for you. period. you're in a rush to lose weight; drop the beer. drink
    water.

    Alcohol is good for you too, in small quantities. Luckily I drive a bus for
    a living so I don;t really drink that much.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    FB

  18. "Jerry" <jabeach@DONT_SPAM_ME_citlink.net> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Ed Prochak wrote:

    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    I don't really do weights, so I won't suggest what you need for those
    other than more reps is better than more weight per rep. (unless you
    want to do body building.)

    What a load of [censored].


    a pant load of [censored].

    Quoted message said:


    --
    Jerry

  19. Jehosophat said:

    "Jerry" <jabeach@DONT_SPAM_ME_citlink.net> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Ed Prochak wrote:

    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    I don't really do weights, so I won't suggest what you need for
    those other than more reps is better than more weight per rep.
    (unless you want to do body building.)

    What a load of [censored].


    a pant load of [censored].

    Quoted message said:


    --
    Jerry

    A *huge* pant load of [censored]. Why do these people offer advice about
    something they know nothing about?
    --
    -Larry

  20. "Sürf McBrowse" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:7JA7e.20973

    Quoted message said:

    No big rush really but my doctor thinks I might have a heart mummer or
    prolapse or something like that so the sooner I take the wieght off the
    better off I'll be.

    It looks like everyone thinks I shouldn't use the velcro wiedghts, are


    they

    Quoted message said:

    good for anything?

    Are you using velro wieghts too? Do you use them with running and if so how
    much and how often?

    FB

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