BK Whopper

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Sheldon said:

Burger King to Offer Whopper of a Breakfast Sandwich
By Bruce Horovitz, USA TODAY

Burger King is about to thumb its nose at the food police - right at
the breakfast table. On Monday, the No. 2 fast-food chain launches its
Enormous Omelet Sandwich. How enormous? For those counting: one sausage
patty, two eggs, two American cheese slices and three strips of bacon.
On a bun.
For those still counting, that's four layers of breakfast with 730
calories oozing 47 grams of fat. For about $2.99, depending on the
market.

The move flies in the face of many of the industry's better-for-you new
products in the past two years - from salads to fruit bowls to bunless
burgers.

But few expect it to leave Burger King with egg on its face. The move
plays right into an industry counter-trend that strongly appeals to the
gut belief of fast-food's favorite, young male customers: Bigger is
better.

"The critics will still label it food [censored]," says Sherri Daye Scott,
editor at QSR, a fast-food industry trade magazine. "But the average
male fast-food customer does not have a problem with this."

I doubt this new breakfast sandwich will be a success for Burger King
for one simple reason. Its so large that it cannot be eaten with one
hand while driving a car. No one in their right mind eats a fast food
sandwich for breakfast if they are not in a hurry. Those who are not in
a hurry to eat breakfast do not "rush" to Burger King to eat if they
have a choice.

Stan Horwitz said:

I doubt this new breakfast sandwich will be a success for Burger King
for one simple reason. Its so large that it cannot be eaten with one
hand while driving a car. No one in their right mind eats a fast food
sandwich for breakfast if they are not in a hurry. Those who are not in
a hurry to eat breakfast do not "rush" to Burger King to eat if they
have a choice.

Phew, glad you told me. Here I was thinking it was OK to just sit in the
parking lot and eat the occasional egg mcmuffin without endangering the
rest of the world while driving with it in my hand. Guess I'm not in my
right mind after all.

Sometimes people eat fast food breakfasts because they're on a budget and
99 cents for something relatively filling that they don't have to cook
isn't that bad a deal. Other times it's because they *gasp* might actually
like egg mcmuffins! (horrors!) Guess these people are crazy, too.

You have a very narrow definition of sanity. I imagine it includes people
who make judgements about how other people should live so that they don't
get accused of being out of their right minds.

--
Siobhan Perricone
"I ain't afraid of your Yahweh
I ain't afraid of your Allah
I ain't afraid of your Jesus
I'm afraid of what ya do in the name of your god"
- Holly Near

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Sheldon said:

Burger King to Offer Whopper of a Breakfast Sandwich
By Bruce Horovitz, USA TODAY

Burger King is about to thumb its nose at the food police - right at
the breakfast table. On Monday, the No. 2 fast-food chain launches its
Enormous Omelet Sandwich. How enormous? For those counting: one sausage
patty, two eggs, two American cheese slices and three strips of bacon.
On a bun.
For those still counting, that's four layers of breakfast with 730
calories oozing 47 grams of fat. For about $2.99, depending on the
market.

I sort of agree with BK that 's a choice -- anybody who wants to fill up
this much is probably already doing so. They're ordering two McMuffins,
hash browns and a danish. I've seen hungry guys at McDonald's order (and
consume) a Big Mac Meal with a $1 doublecheeseburger on the side.

And it's probably the same amount of calories/food you'd get ordering one of
those big breakfasts at Denny's -- though I know the point is that people
don't go to Denny's every day for a huge breakfast, but it will be very
quick and easy for them to swing by BK and nosh on this thing every day
(though not while driving -- you're right, Stan, it's a two-hander!).

Anyway, it's gross, but it doesn't even come close to the Monster
Thickburger at Hardee's/Carl's. That is truly disgusting, IMO.

Chris (who had an inexplicable craving for nachos for breakfast this
morning)

"Sheldon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
Burger King to Offer Whopper of a Breakfast Sandwich
By Bruce Horovitz, USA TODAY

Burger King is about to thumb its nose at the food police - right at
the breakfast table. On Monday, the No. 2 fast-food chain launches its
Enormous Omelet Sandwich. How enormous? For those counting: one sausage
patty, two eggs, two American cheese slices and three strips of bacon.
On a bun.
For those still counting, that's four layers of breakfast with 730
calories oozing 47 grams of fat. For about $2.99, depending on the
market.

*Maybe it's just me, but that calorie count doesn't sound all that
alarming, considering it's not much more than a big mac or a
whopper. Then, this morning I saw someone show what other
food you could eat instead and get the same calories. Get this,
they said something like 11 pieces of fried chicken. On WHAT
planet is that much fried chicken only 700/whatever calories.
Not a chance. Then they pointed out a Starbucks frapowhatever
blew the BK thing out of the water, caloriewise.

nancy (sorry about the formatting, my software flips out on
occasion)
The move flies in the face of many of the industry's better-for-you new
products in the past two years - from salads to fruit bowls to bunless
burgers.

But few expect it to leave Burger King with egg on its face. The move
plays right into an industry counter-trend that strongly appeals to the
gut belief of fast-food's favorite, young male customers: Bigger is
better.

"The critics will still label it food [censored]," says Sherri Daye Scott,
editor at QSR, a fast-food industry trade magazine. "But the average
male fast-food customer does not have a problem with this."

In fact, they love it. That's why the Monster Thickburger has been such
a hit for Carl's Jr. and Hardee's. It's why Pizza Hut introduced its
Full House XL Pizza. And it's why more are certain to follow. This
could also make Burger King more of a player in the breakfast market,
where it seriously lags behind McDonald's.

Morgan Spurlock, who ridiculed McDonald's in Super Size Me, says Burger
King's new item, "should come with a $5-off coupon for your first
angioplasty."

Nutritional experts are aghast. "Eating like this is a step on the way
to a heart attack," says Fred Pescatore, author of The Hamptons Diet.
"It's irresponsible."

Burger King says it's not irresponsible - it's a choice.

"There are plenty of options on our menu for anyone who wants to make
sensible choices," says Denny Marie Post, chief concept officer.

Burger King introduced several salads in the past year and offers kids
meals that substitute applesauce for fries and milk for soft drinks.
It's also introducing a Western Omelet Croissan'wich with about half
the calories and one-third the fat of the Enormous Omelet.

"We're about having it your way," says Post. "The guy who is a
Whopper-head will find this appealing. "That's a male 16 to 24 years
old, says Bob Sandelman, a restaurant researcher. A core of young men
eat fast food 20 times a month, he says. With the Enormous Omelet
Sandwich, "Burger King is going 180 degrees away from politically
correct food," he says. Many young males "like that attitude and
couldn't care less about nutrition." They just want to fill up - cheap.

Ask Andy Puzder. He's CEO of Hardee's and Carl's Jr., home of the
1,420-calorie Monster Thickburger. One year after the giant burger
rolled out, same-store sales at the chain were up more than 7%, he
says.

Why would anyone buy such a behemoth burger? That's easy, Puzder says:
"Because they're good."

03/28/2005 07:09© Copyright 2005 USA TODAY
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Siobhan Perricone said:

On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 00:12:14 -0500, Stan Horwitz <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

I doubt this new breakfast sandwich will be a success for Burger King
for one simple reason. Its so large that it cannot be eaten with one
hand while driving a car. No one in their right mind eats a fast food
sandwich for breakfast if they are not in a hurry. Those who are not
in a hurry to eat breakfast do not "rush" to Burger King to eat if
they have a choice.

Phew, glad you told me. Here I was thinking it was OK to just sit in
the parking lot and eat the occasional egg mcmuffin without
endangering the rest of the world while driving with it in my hand.
Guess I'm not in my right mind after all.

I hear ya. I don't have a Burger King or McDonald's on my way to work but
the small store down the street does a breakfast buffet. I often pick up a
sausage biscuit and then eat it AT work.

Jill

Quoted message said:

Sometimes people eat fast food breakfasts because they're on a budget
and 99 cents for something relatively filling that they don't have to
cook isn't that bad a deal. Other times it's because they *gasp*
might actually like egg mcmuffins! (horrors!) Guess these people are
crazy, too.

You have a very narrow definition of sanity. I imagine it includes
people who make judgements about how other people should live so that
they don't get accused of being out of their right minds.

--
Siobhan Perricone
"I ain't afraid of your Yahweh
I ain't afraid of your Allah
I ain't afraid of your Jesus
I'm afraid of what ya do in the name of your god"
- Holly Near

"Sheldon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
Burger King to Offer Whopper of a Breakfast Sandwich
By Bruce Horovitz, USA TODAY

Burger King is about to thumb its nose at the food police - right at
the breakfast table. On Monday, the No. 2 fast-food chain launches its
Enormous Omelet Sandwich. How enormous? For those counting: one sausage
patty, two eggs, two American cheese slices and three strips of bacon.
On a bun.
For those still counting, that's four layers of breakfast with 730
calories oozing 47 grams of fat. For about $2.99, depending on the
market.

<etc etc etc>

Hate to say this, but BK has a point: It's a choice. A choice, dammit. You
don't want it? Don't eat it.

Felice

Felice Friese said:

Hate to say this, but BK has a point: It's a choice. A choice, dammit. You
don't want it? Don't eat it.

Ooo, but it's so tempting, Fat, salt, cheap, fast.

MK (who will try to resist)

jmcquown said:

Quoted message said:

I hear ya. I don't have a Burger King or McDonald's on my way to

work but

Quoted message said:

the small store down the street does a breakfast buffet. I often

pick up a

Quoted message said:

sausage biscuit and then eat it AT work.

I'm not a big breakfast eater, but I need food in my stomach before I
get to work and sometimes I crave a sausage McMuffin! It's not all
that crazy when you think about it... english muffins, sausage and egg
- if you feel like eating an egg too. So, if I can get myself out the
door early enough, paying a buck or two for something I like (I'm not a
morning person) is fine by me.

BTW: In my neck 'o the woods, the outlet where I go to the drive thru
makes good, STRONG coffee so I order that too.

One time on Usenet said:

Felice Friese said:

Hate to say this, but BK has a point: It's a choice. A choice, dammit. You
don't want it? Don't eat it.

Ooo, but it's so tempting, Fat, salt, cheap, fast.

MK (who will try to resist)

I'm not going to have any problem resisting this one. While I do
love fast food on occasion (McD's sausage McMuffin with egg!), I've
yet to find any BK menu item that tastes good to me...

--
J.J. in WA ~ mom, vid gamer, novice cook ~
"You still haven't explained why the pool is
filled with elf blood." - Frylock, ATHF

Michael L Kankiewicz <[email hidden]> wrote in
news:[email hidden]:

Quoted message said:

Felice Friese said:

Hate to say this, but BK has a point: It's a choice. A choice,
dammit. You don't want it? Don't eat it.

Ooo, but it's so tempting, Fat, salt, cheap, fast.

MK (who will try to resist)

Michael,

And just think how suave you'll look driving down the street with that
"omelette" in one hand and your cell phone in the other. 😉

Andy

--
"If you can't do it naturally, then fake it."
- Alfred Hitchcock
Spoken to Ingrid Bergman

Gal Called J.J. said:

I'm not going to have any problem resisting this one. While I do
love fast food on occasion (McD's sausage McMuffin with egg!), I've
yet to find any BK menu item that tastes good to me...

This morning I had a really good breakfast sandwich: English muffin,
mayo, colby jack cheese, bacon, fried egg. Made it myself. Had I been
in the car rather than the kitchen I'd have bought one, why not? Can't
say anything about BK or Wendys or Carls or McD because the *only* fast
food place I've been to in many years is In n' Out burgers here in
SoCal. They are still the best because of their simple, simple
formula: better quality fresh ingredients, every order made to order.
-aem

aem said:

Gal Called J.J. said:

I'm not going to have any problem resisting this one. While I do
love fast food on occasion (McD's sausage McMuffin with egg!), I've
yet to find any BK menu item that tastes good to me...

This morning I had a really good breakfast sandwich: English muffin,
mayo, colby jack cheese, bacon, fried egg. Made it myself. Had I

been

Quoted message said:

in the car rather than the kitchen I'd have bought one, why not?

Can't

Quoted message said:

say anything about BK or Wendys or Carls or McD because the *only*

fast

Quoted message said:

food place I've been to in many years is In n' Out burgers here in
SoCal. They are still the best because of their simple, simple
formula: better quality fresh ingredients, every order made to

order.

Quoted message said:

-aem

Cheese, bacon, and fried egg... why not have a little fat for
breakfast... oh, you did, you really needed that mayo!

For breakfast I had a homemade giant bran muffin w/raisins and two mugs
of strong black coffee. For lunch I'll have the rest of yesterday's
pea soup. I have an eye round defrosting for dinner, will have
Birdseye broccoli, and I've got a big pot of bbq beans already in the
oven.

BARBECUED BAKED BEANS

1 pound small white beans
1/2 cup onions, finely chopped
1/2 cup celery with leaves, finely chopped
1/4 cup green bell pepper, chopped
1 tablespoon garlic, minced
3 tablespoons olive oil
1 16-ounce can tomato sauce or 6 large fresh tomatoes
chopped and stewed for 1 hour
1/4 cup dark brown sugar
1/4 cup thick molasses
1 tablespoon dry mustard
3 tablespoons Worcestershire sauce
1/2 teaspoon ground cloves
chicken, veal, or pork stock (optional)
2 bay leaves
1 teaspoon salt
1 teaspoon cracked black pepper
1 teaspoon fresh thyme
1 cup country cured slab bacon, diced

Wash beans, place in large pot and cover with cool water, boil for 5
minutes, and remove from heat; let sit for 1 hour with tight lid. In
cast-iron
skillet, sauté onions, celery, bell pepper, and garlic in olive oil
on a high
flame for 4 minutes or until onion is translucent. Add tomato sauce,
sugar,
molasses, mustard, Worcestershire sauce, and cloves, and simmer for 30
minutes. Pour off water from beans and replace with 3 1/2 cups
(approximately) fresh cool water or meat stock. Add bay leaves, salt,
pepper, and thyme. Let simmer, covered, until beans are tender.
Sauté bacon cubes; drain. Drain liquid
from beans and reserve. Combine beans and tomato sauce in Dutch oven or
bean pot. Top with bacon and bake in 300-degree oven for 3 to 5 hours.
Stir beans now and then, adding reserved liquid when needed.
---
Sheldon

Sheldon said:

[snip]
Cheese, bacon, and fried egg... why not have a little fat for
breakfast... oh, you did, you really needed that mayo!

For breakfast I had a homemade giant bran muffin w/raisins and two
mugs of strong black coffee.

A giant bran muffin probably has as much fat as the egg and cheese,
unless it was one of those awful 'fat free' types. Besides, look at
all the butter I didn't use...<g>

Quoted message said:

BARBECUED BAKED BEANS

[snip recipe]

The beans look right up my alley. I may try them tomorrow as I have
all the ingredients except the molasses. By definition, molasses in a
recipe is always optional because I never have any. I'll take a smoked
pork hock out of the freezer to replace the bacon. -aem

Sheldon said:

BARBECUED BAKED BEANS

<snip

Quoted message said:

Top with bacon and bake in 300-degree oven for 3 to 5 hours.
Stir beans now and then, adding reserved liquid when needed.

..... how do you barbecue in the oven? I thought you needed a smoker
for that.

sf
😉

Andy said:

Michael L Kankiewicz <[email hidden]> wrote in

Quoted message said:

Felice Friese said:

Hate to say this, but BK has a point: It's a choice. A choice,
dammit. You don't want it? Don't eat it.

Ooo, but it's so tempting, Fat, salt, cheap, fast.

MK (who will try to resist)

And just think how suave you'll look driving down the street with that
"omelette" in one hand and your cell phone in the other. 😉

I don't own one. 🙂

MK

Sheldon wrote:

[from the article]

"Morgan Spurlock, who ridiculed McDonald's in Super Size Me, says Burger
King's new item, "should come with a $5-off coupon for your first
angioplasty."

Believe me the demographic to which this is targeted, e.g. lower - class
white and lower - class inner - city minority males cares not a whit about
the nutritional content of this (or any item ) that they eat. Lower - class
types basically do nothing but eat trash, they've got bigger things to
worry about, e.g. day - to - day survival...

For a lot of poorer folks fast food is a big treat, the only bright spot in
their dreary lives...

--
Best
Greg

Gregory Morrow said:

Sheldon wrote:
[from the article]

"Morgan Spurlock, who ridiculed McDonald's in Super Size Me, says
Burger King's new item, "should come with a $5-off coupon for your
first angioplasty."

Believe me the demographic to which this is targeted, e.g. lower -
class white and lower - class inner - city minority males cares not a
whit about the nutritional content of this (or any item ) that they
eat. Lower - class types basically do nothing but eat trash,
they've got bigger things to worry about, e.g. day - to - day
survival...

For a lot of poorer folks fast food is a big treat, the only bright
spot in their dreary lives...

Greg, shame on you! I'm not a huge proponent of the PC Police but that's
just *wrong*.

Jill

Gregory Morrow said:

For a lot of poorer folks fast food is a big treat, the only bright spot
in
their dreary lives...

Please...........
As Emeril might say; I don't know where you see poor people, but where I see
them, fast food ain't no treat - it's a constant.

Have you ever seen poor people at the checkout? They're the ones using food
stamps to pay for the chips, dip, Blue Bunny ice cream, pizza rolls, Tyson
fajita's in a bag, Hormel BBQ port in tub (ready to heat and eat) etc. Oh,
and cash for the beer/whiskey/vodka and cigarettes - all of which are
usually the cheapest white label or store brand.

I get so PO's seeing how my tax dollars are wasted; it's not that I begrudge
them the money, it's what it's spent on. Some of that money should go to
teach, and enforce, good nutrition choices.

Nancy,
Fried Chicken is fairly low calorie if you peel it first. Still,
even then, the eleven pieces had better be wings. IIRC, protein has
about 1/2 the calories per gram as does fat, and protein tends to be
denser, so there would be more grams for a given volume. Somehow I
suspect that it wasn't calories they were talking about, but rather
calories from fat or saturated fat. If you fry the chicken in an
unsaturated fat, it would have almost no calories from saturated fat.

Google says : (www.nutristrategy.com/nutrition/calories.htm)
Fat: 1 gram = 9 calories Protein: 1 gram = 4 calories Carbohydrates: 1
gram = 4 calories Alcohol: 1 gram = 7 calories

After all that, I think there are too many people worrying about what
other people eat, and not enough people worrying about what they eat.
For me, I'll skip the BK version, and eat at home. Two eggs over easy,
three or four strips of bacon (maybe five or six), and a couple slices
of toast with butter and maybe jelly. If I have the time, I'll add a
huge pile of hashbrowns with cheese and onions and plenty of salt and
pepper. I'll wash it down with either (whole) milk or a large glass of
juice. See, homecooking is so much healthier than that fast food
[censored].<g>

As for how bad 700+ calories are for breakfast, consider that most
nutritionists suggests breakfast should be the largest meal of the day,
and that the average person burns 2000-3000 calories per day. It looks
like BK is on target at breakfast, and it is their lunch and dinner
menus that need work, nutritionally speaking. Of course you can always
order a chicken whopper and a salad. Nobody's ever been shot at BK for
ordering that kind of stuff.

Dean G.

P.S. Starbucks calls it a mocha frappuccino IIRC