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  1. I've googled for cycle training and see that quite a lot is going
    on at local authority level in the UK. But what about DIY? Are
    there resources (like a training manual) accessible anywhere? I'm
    starting to worry about the road-worthiness of my offspring, and
    thinking that a version of Cyclecraft for 8-12 year-olds would be
    just the thing, if it existed.

    Any pointers?

    Brendan
    --
    Brendan Halpin, Department of Sociology, University of Limerick, Ireland
    Tel: w +353-61-213147 f +353-61-202569 h +353-61-338562; Room F2-025 x 3147
    [email hidden] http://www.ul.ie/sociology/brendan.halpin.html

  2. "Brendan Halpin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    I've googled for cycle training and see that quite a lot is going
    on at local authority level in the UK. But what about DIY? Are
    there resources (like a training manual) accessible anywhere? I'm
    starting to worry about the road-worthiness of my offspring, and
    thinking that a version of Cyclecraft for 8-12 year-olds would be
    just the thing, if it existed.

    Any pointers?

    For the 12 year old, I guess that Cyclecraft itself is it. I don't
    think there is anything reasonable for kids. A few years ago the
    British gov't issued some comic book, written, I think, by the Walt
    Disney organization. It was truly terrible, and it would be kindest
    to let them forget they ever published it.

    About thirty years ago the USA issued a fine comic called.
    "Sprocketman". I may have the only copy in England, and I'm not
    letting it out of my hands. Anyway, it's written for countries where
    they drive on the right, and use American hand signals, and it's good
    enough to be wasted on kids. The second edition was issued by the US
    Consumer Products Safety Commission, but the first edition, before
    the censor had sanitized the subversive bits, is better.

    Jeremy Parker

  3. Response to Jeremy Parker:

    Quoted message said:

    For the 12 year old, I guess that Cyclecraft itself is it. I don't
    think there is anything reasonable for kids. A few years ago the
    British gov't issued some comic book, written, I think, by the Walt
    Disney organization. It was truly terrible, and it would be kindest
    to let them forget they ever published it.

    They're still at it -

    http://www.thinkroadsafety.gov.uk/campaigns/cyclesmart/index.htm

    http://www.disney.co.uk/DisneyChannel/cyclesmart/main.html

    Here's a tough one: guess what they think is the "most important part of
    your gear"? Apart from that, there are a good few holes I could pick in
    some of the road safety advice.

    I'm racking my brains about the OP's question, because I actually *saw* a
    cycling guide aimed at children just a few days ago, but I can't even
    remember whether I saw it online or in RL.

    --
    Mark, UK.

    "One should as a rule respect public opinion in so far as is necessary
    to avoid starvation and to keep out of prison, but anything that goes
    beyond this is voluntary submission to an unnecessary tyranny, and is
    likely to interfere with happiness in all kinds of ways."

  4. Brendan Halpin said:

    I've googled for cycle training and see that quite a lot is going
    on at local authority level in the UK. But what about DIY? Are
    there resources (like a training manual) accessible anywhere? I'm
    starting to worry about the road-worthiness of my offspring, and
    thinking that a version of Cyclecraft for 8-12 year-olds would be
    just the thing, if it existed.

    I have a book called "Keep on the Safe Side: A handbook for young
    cyclists". It was published in 1989 by HMSO.

    I doubt that it's still in print, but Amazon might be able to find you a
    second hand copy. ISBN 0115508724

    --
    Danny Colyer (the UK company has been laughed out of my reply address)
    <URL:http://www.speedy5.freeserve.co.uk/danny/>
    "He who dares not offend cannot be honest." - Thomas Paine

  5. Danny Colyer said:


    Brendan Halpin said:

    I've googled for cycle training and see that quite a lot is going
    on at local authority level in the UK. But what about DIY? Are
    there resources (like a training manual) accessible anywhere? I'm
    starting to worry about the road-worthiness of my offspring, and
    thinking that a version of Cyclecraft for 8-12 year-olds would be
    just the thing, if it existed.

    I have a book called "Keep on the Safe Side: A handbook for young
    cyclists". It was published in 1989 by HMSO.

    Its an excellent book and should really be updated. I have contacted tso
    about it.
    The helmets in the drawings are great.
    - the safe rider has one with angel wings, the dangerous rider one with horns.

    Way before its time.

    John B

  6. Response to JohnB:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I have a book called "Keep on the Safe Side: A handbook for young
    cyclists". It was published in 1989 by HMSO.

    Its an excellent book and should really be updated. I have contacted tso
    about it.
    The helmets in the drawings are great.
    - the safe rider has one with angel wings, the dangerous rider one with horns.

    *That*'s the one I remember, and I think I saw it at my local remainder
    bookshop. I shall investigate.

    And inevitably there's a copy on Ebay...

    http://tinyurl.com/5ndvv

    --
    Mark, UK.

    "I worry that the person who thought up Muzak may be thinking up
    something else."

  7. Jeremy Parker said:

    For the 12 year old, I guess that Cyclecraft itself is it. I don't
    think there is anything reasonable for kids. A few years ago the
    British gov't issued some comic book, written, I think, by the Walt
    Disney organization. It was truly terrible, and it would be kindest
    to let them forget they ever published it.

    You won't believe this then....
    What comes around, comes around.

    Hot off the press from LARSOA (Local Authority Road Safety Officers Association):

    http://www.larsoa.org.uk/news_mar05/news03_disney.htm

    Disney partners new Think! cycle smart website.

    The THINK! campaign has launched a new website, in conjunction with
    Disney, to support the popular cycle smart magazine.

    www.cyclesmart.org features the Disney Recess Gang characters and shows
    7-10 year olds how to keep safe while out and about on their bikes. The
    original comic strip and posters have been brought to life in this
    colourful interactive site, which features:

    •  The new adventures of the Recess Gang including TJ, the leader,
    Mikey, the poet, Vince, the athlete, Gretchen, the brain, Spinelli, the
    enforcer and Gus, the guy who's all heart.

    •  Interactive pages about cycle safety gear and bike maintenance.

    •  A game in which players are challenged to choose the safest options
    for the cycle journey.

    •  A chance to win prizes including a brand new bike.

    Online advertising will be used to drive traffic to the site. The first
    burst, in April, will support the launch and the second burst - over the
    Christmas and New Year period - will target children who have received a
    bike for Christmas. Collectable postcards are also being distributed in
    schools at the start of each term.
    <end quote>

    John B

  8. On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:40:58 -0000, "Jeremy Parker"
    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    <[email hidden]>:

    Quoted message said:

    A few years ago the
    British gov't issued some comic book, written, I think, by the Walt
    Disney organization. It was truly terrible, and it would be kindest
    to let them forget they ever published it.

    Disney are now in charge of cycle safety for HMG. For once it is
    absolutely fair comment to say it's been handed to some Mickey Mouse
    outfit...

    Guy
    --
    http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

    "To every complex problem there is a solution which is
    simple, neat and wrong" - HL Mencken

  9. On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:11:03 +0000, Danny Colyer
    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    <[email hidden]>:

    Quoted message said:

    I have a book called "Keep on the Safe Side: A handbook for young
    cyclists". It was published in 1989 by HMSO.

    I have a copy as well. I'm trying to get John F to do a kids' book.

    Guy
    --
    http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

    "To every complex problem there is a solution which is
    simple, neat and wrong" - HL Mencken

  10. Just zis Guy said:


    Disney are now in charge of cycle safety for HMG. For once it is
    absolutely fair comment to say it's been handed to some Mickey Mouse
    outfit...

    Not some Mickey Mouse outfit; THE Mickey Mouse outfit ;-)

    Tony

  11. In article <[email hidden]>, "Just zis

    Guy said:
    Quoted message said:

    I have a book called "Keep on the Safe Side: A handbook for young
    cyclists". It was published in 1989 by HMSO.

    Quoted message said:

    I have a copy as well. I'm trying to get John F to do a kids' book.

    Very OT but the RCCC have just produced a booklet to teach kids about
    Curling and how to support Curling. I would recommend that anyone
    who can get one does. Clear, colourful, concise and very explanatory.

    I would have thought that it was a good model and, NO, I had nothing
    to do with its production.

    --
    A T (Sandy) Morton
    Council Member for Area 4
    Royal Caledonian Curling Club
    http://www.royalcaledoniancurlingclub.org

  12. you know? said:

    On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:40:58 -0000, "Jeremy Parker"
    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    <[email hidden]>:

    Quoted message said:

    A few years ago the
    British gov't issued some comic book, written, I think, by the Walt
    Disney organization. It was truly terrible, and it would be kindest
    to let them forget they ever published it.

    Disney are now in charge of cycle safety for HMG. For once it is
    absolutely fair comment to say it's been handed to some Mickey Mouse
    outfit...

    Snow white van man driver
    Dopey cager
    Bashful recumbenteers
    Sleepy audaxer
    Grumpy bus driver

    Winnie the pootler

    The Lion Kingcycle

    .... Keep 'em coming ...

    --
    Microsoft Sam speaks his mind:
    www.artybee.net/sam_speaks_his_mind.mp3

  13. Sandy Morton said:

    Very OT but the RCCC have just produced a booklet to teach kids about
    Curling and how to support Curling. I would recommend that anyone
    who can get one does. Clear, colourful, concise and very explanatory.

    Neat trick. A really good how-to for kids is incredibly difficult to
    achieve without being patronising. Is it online, do you suppose?

    Guy
    --
    http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

    "To every complex problem there is a solution which is
    simple, neat and wrong" - HL Mencken

  14. In article <[email hidden]>, "Just zis

    Guy said:

    Neat trick. A really good how-to for kids is incredibly difficult
    to achieve without being patronising. Is it online, do you suppose?

    I doubt it but if I can persuade them I'll post the url.

    --
    A T (Sandy) Morton
    Council Member for Area 4
    Royal Caledonian Curling Club
    http://www.royalcaledoniancurlingclub.org

  15. Just zis Guy said:


    On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:11:03 +0000, Danny Colyer
    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    <[email hidden]>:

    Quoted message said:

    I have a book called "Keep on the Safe Side: A handbook for young
    cyclists". It was published in 1989 by HMSO.

    I have a copy as well. I'm trying to get John F to do a kids' book.

    I've been presurising tso and others too,.

    It's a good book.

    John b

  16. Mark McNeill said:

    Response to JohnB:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I have a book called "Keep on the Safe Side: A handbook for young
    cyclists". It was published in 1989 by HMSO.

    Its an excellent book and should really be updated. I have contacted tso
    about it.
    The helmets in the drawings are great.
    - the safe rider has one with angel wings, the dangerous rider one with horns.

    *That*'s the one I remember, and I think I saw it at my local remainder
    bookshop. I shall investigate.

    And inevitably there's a copy on Ebay...

    http://tinyurl.com/5ndvv

    Thanks for the pointer, I bought it.

    Gotta work on the eight-year old:

    "We're going to turn right up here, slow down and let the cars past"
    "Slow Down and let the cars past!"
    "PULL IN AND LET THE CARS PAST!"
    Obliging car stops as 8-yo blithely turns right across its bows. I
    think I should attach a rope from my handlebars to his seat post...

    Brendan
    --
    Brendan Halpin, Department of Sociology, University of Limerick, Ireland
    Tel: w +353-61-213147 f +353-61-202569 h +353-61-338562; Room F2-025 x 3147
    [email hidden] http://www.ul.ie/sociology/brendan.halpin.html

  17. hi,
    i am a qualified cycling instructor National Standard.
    The only book worth reading is the Cycle Training Manual published by
    www.cycletraining.co.uk email them for the price.

    Also worth reading is Cyclecraft by John Franklin,
    http://www.lesberries.co.uk/ccraft/ccraft.htm
    though not designed for young people.

    Paul

    "Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:40:58 -0000, "Jeremy Parker"
    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    <[email hidden]>:

    Quoted message said:

    A few years ago the
    British gov't issued some comic book, written, I think, by the Walt
    Disney organization. It was truly terrible, and it would be kindest
    to let them forget they ever published it.

    Disney are now in charge of cycle safety for HMG. For once it is
    absolutely fair comment to say it's been handed to some Mickey Mouse
    outfit...

    Guy
    --
    http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

    "To every complex problem there is a solution which is
    simple, neat and wrong" - HL Mencken

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