OT: Linux CDs

On 14/3/05 4:09 pm, in article [email hidden],

Richard Bates said:

I've got SUSE Linux 6.3 on 6 CDs, and SUSE 9.0 Personal on 3 CDs

Since I never got to grips with Linux (decent music scoring software
just doesn't exist), and no longer have a desire to even try, does
anybody want these distros?

I have been quite happy with Lilypond which seems to meet my needs quite
happily.

...d

Quoted message said:

Yours for the price of postage, else they become very geeky coffee
mats...

email please - let me know which one(s) you want.

Richard Bates said:

I've got SUSE Linux 6.3 on 6 CDs, and SUSE 9.0 Personal on 3 CDs

Since I never got to grips with Linux (decent music scoring software
just doesn't exist), and no longer have a desire to even try, does
anybody want these distros?

Yours for the price of postage, else they become very geeky coffee
mats...

email please - let me know which one(s) you want.

I believe Macs are the tool-of-choice for music work. OS-X is a kind of
Linux - so you were on the right lines.

If you have a monitor and stuff lying about, try a Mac Mini - only $499 🙂

I have no idea what software to use. Ask Moby - he does all his work on
Macs.

PC's are only good for word-processing and playing games. Linux is best
for servers. Macs are great for media.

--
Chris

in message <[email hidden]>, Richard Bates

(') said:

I've got SUSE Linux 6.3 on 6 CDs, and SUSE 9.0 Personal on 3 CDs

Since I never got to grips with Linux (decent music scoring software
just doesn't exist),

<URL:http://www.rosegardenmusic.com/>

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Simon Brooke said:

in message <[email hidden]>, Richard Bates

(') said:

I've got SUSE Linux 6.3 on 6 CDs, and SUSE 9.0 Personal on 3 CDs

Since I never got to grips with Linux (decent music scoring software
just doesn't exist),

<URL:http://www.rosegardenmusic.com/>

There are music typesetting programs available for linux (rosegarden
and lilypond come to mind), but they come no-where near the ease of use
and power of the best PC/Mac programs IM(limited)E.

Phil (desktop linux user)

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Phil Armstrong said:

Simon Brooke said:

in message <[email hidden]>, Richard Bates

(') said:

I've got SUSE Linux 6.3 on 6 CDs, and SUSE 9.0 Personal on 3 CDs

Since I never got to grips with Linux (decent music scoring software
just doesn't exist),

<URL:http://www.rosegardenmusic.com/>

There are music typesetting programs available for linux (rosegarden
and lilypond come to mind), but they come no-where near the ease of use
and power of the best PC/Mac programs IM(limited)E.

Correct - Linux seems to have good music engraving systems, and good
midi sequencing programs. The combination of the two seems to be
available only for Windows or MacOS. Sibelius, which is the dogs
crotchets of music software is a very intelligent program.

--
Microsoft Sam speaks his mind:
www.artybee.net/sam_speaks_his_mind.mp3

In article said:

I've got SUSE Linux 6.3 on 6 CDs, and SUSE 9.0 Personal on 3 CDs

Since I never got to grips with Linux (decent music scoring software
just doesn't exist), and no longer have a desire to even try, does
anybody want these distros?

Yours for the price of postage, else they become very geeky coffee
mats...

email please - let me know which one(s) you want.

The SUSE 6.3 CDs might have historical interest......

/me has a RH 4.2 disk somewhere and Debian 1.x in an even
dustier corner
--
Tim.

Richard Bates said:

Sibelius, which is the dogs
crotchets of music software is a very intelligent program.

....and very very expensive 🙁

Tim said:

The SUSE 6.3 CDs might have historical interest......

/me has a RH 4.2 disk somewhere and Debian 1.x in an even
dustier corner

Sat in a cardboard box in my flat, awaiting sorting, is a Slackware 95
CD set (6 CDs). I used to have to ask permission to leave the family PC
on overnight so that I could do a kernel rebuild (~12 hours)!

Happy days.

Jon

Succorso said:

Richard Bates said:

Sibelius, which is the dogs
crotchets of music software is a very intelligent program.

...and very very expensive 🙁

And a nasty, arrogant company.

I speak as someone who paid for Sibelius, only to find it offered
no way at all to generate a printout on the hardware I had available.
When I tried asking them, their response was basically "f*** off".

And when that hardware died, I had no means of using it at all, or
transferring to other hardware. Waste of time and money.

--
Nick Kew

In article <[email hidden]>,

Succorso said:

I believe Macs are the tool-of-choice for music work. OS-X is a kind of
Linux - so you were on the right lines.

More a kind of NetBSD to be exact.

Quoted message said:

If you have a monitor and stuff lying about, try a Mac Mini - only $499 🙂

Which incidently comes with Garageband 2.0 now which includes
rudimentary music scoring.

Quoted message said:

I have no idea what software to use. Ask Moby - he does all his work on
Macs.

Probably Logic - http://www.apple.com/logic/

Quoted message said:

PC's are only good for word-processing and playing games. Linux is best
for servers. Macs are great for media.

No, no, no. Games consoles are for games, Linux for servers, Mac for
everything else. There's no reason to use a Windows PC unless of course
your PHB has told you your job depends on it. If that's the case, change
jobs - life is too short.

Shaun

Succorso said:

Richard Bates said:

Sibelius, which is the dogs
crotchets of music software is a very intelligent program.

...and very very expensive 🙁

Not if you frequently do music-related voluntary work for a local
secondary school it isn't!

--
Microsoft Sam speaks his mind:
www.artybee.net/sam_speaks_his_mind.mp3

Succorso said:

OS-X is a kind
of Linux - so you were on the right lines.

NO !!

OS-X has a BSD unix under the bonnet.

Linux is also a unix-type operating system. In fact it's only a kernel
with the userland taken from all over the place including BSD.

Jon

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Quoted message said:

Richard Bates said:

I've got SUSE Linux 6.3 on 6 CDs, and SUSE 9.0 Personal on 3 CDs

Since I never got to grips with Linux (decent music scoring software
just doesn't exist), and no longer have a desire to even try, does
anybody want these distros?

Yours for the price of postage, else they become very geeky coffee
mats...

email please - let me know which one(s) you want.

I believe Macs are the tool-of-choice for music work. OS-X is a kind of
Linux - so you were on the right lines.

Be very careful, you'll upset the freebsd fans. ;o)

in message <[email hidden]>, Jon Senior

jon_AT_restlesslemon_DOT_co_DOT_uk ('') said:

Tim said:

The SUSE 6.3 CDs might have historical interest......

/me has a RH 4.2 disk somewhere and Debian 1.x in an even
dustier corner

Sat in a cardboard box in my flat, awaiting sorting, is a Slackware 95
CD set (6 CDs). I used to have to ask permission to leave the family
PC on overnight so that I could do a kernel rebuild (~12 hours)!

Oh, if we're into bragging, I still have some of the floopies left from
the 70-odd that the SLS distribution came on. 1993, I think. I've been
using Linux on my main desktop machine ever since (before that I used
BSD on ARM hardware). I also have Slackware and Infomagic sets from 95,
and Suse, Mandrake, RedHat, Caldera and others from the late 90s.
Nowadays I use Debian on my desktop, laptops and servers, because of
the wonderful package management system, and the OpenZaurus
distribution (based on Debian) on my palmtop.

Not that I'm religious, you understand. My phone runs Symbian.

--
[email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

;; Life would be much easier if I had the source code.

in message
<[email hidden]>,

Shaun Murray (') said:

No, no, no. Games consoles are for games, Linux for servers, Mac for
everything else. There's no reason to use a Windows PC unless of
course your PHB has told you your job depends on it. If that's the
case, change jobs - life is too short.

Linux for servers, desktops, laptops, mainframes, supercomputers,
phones, embedded systems and various other things. Mac for *media*?
What /do/ you think the movie studios use these days?

I agree with you about Windows, though.

--
[email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

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Simon Brooke said:

in message <[email hidden]>, Jon Senior

jon_AT_restlesslemon_DOT_co_DOT_uk ('') said:

Tim said:

The SUSE 6.3 CDs might have historical interest......

/me has a RH 4.2 disk somewhere and Debian 1.x in an even
dustier corner

Sat in a cardboard box in my flat, awaiting sorting, is a Slackware 95
CD set (6 CDs). I used to have to ask permission to leave the family
PC on overnight so that I could do a kernel rebuild (~12 hours)!

Oh, if we're into bragging, I still have some of the floopies left from
the 70-odd that the SLS distribution came on. 1993, I think.

Only some Simon? I still have a load of SLS floppies as well - maybe the
entire set. It used to run adequately (as long as I didn't run an X server)
on my 486sx25 with 4Mb of RAM - which I still have as well although it is
doing nothing more than taking up space.

--
Andy Leighton => [email hidden]
"The Lord is my shepherd, but we still lost the sheep dog trials"
- Robert Rankin, _They Came And Ate Us_

Simon Brooke said:

Oh, if we're into bragging, I still have some of the floopies left from
the 70-odd that the SLS distribution came on. 1993, I think. I've been
using Linux on my main desktop machine ever since (before that I used
BSD on ARM hardware). I also have Slackware and Infomagic sets from 95,
and Suse, Mandrake, RedHat, Caldera and others from the late 90s.
Nowadays I use Debian on my desktop, laptops and servers, because of
the wonderful package management system, and the OpenZaurus
distribution (based on Debian) on my palmtop.

Blimey. I don't understand a word of that.
What country are you posting from.

All I know is that I've got Macs throughout the house and bikes in the
shed [1] and garage.

[1] OK there are some macs in the garage and bikes in the hall...and
kitchen ...and porch ...and...

John B
who's never owned a PC :-)

in message <[email hidden]>, Andy Leighton

(') said:

Simon Brooke said:

in message <[email hidden]>, Jon Senior

jon_AT_restlesslemon_DOT_co_DOT_uk ('') said:

Tim wrote:
> The SUSE 6.3 CDs might have historical interest......
>
> /me has a RH 4.2 disk somewhere and Debian 1.x in an even
> dustier corner

Sat in a cardboard box in my flat, awaiting sorting, is a Slackware
95 CD set (6 CDs). I used to have to ask permission to leave the
family PC on overnight so that I could do a kernel rebuild (~12
hours)!

Oh, if we're into bragging, I still have some of the floopies left
from the 70-odd that the SLS distribution came on. 1993, I think.

Only some Simon?

Only some.

Quoted message said:

I still have a load of SLS floppies as well - maybe the
entire set. It used to run adequately (as long as I didn't run an X
server) on my 486sx25 with 4Mb of RAM - which I still have as well
although it is doing nothing more than taking up space.

Yup, I had it on a Dell 386 with 4Mb RAM, and like you say that didn't
really run X all that well. Then a homebrewed 486dx100 with 64Mb RAM
which is still under my desk, although it hasn't actually run for about
five years. Then a homebrewed dual processor Pentium 2 with half a Gb
of RAM (also still under my desk and still plugged into my KVM); and
now homebrewed dual processor Athlon with 2.5Gb of RAM. The first dual
processor we built for Linux was a Pentium Pro back in 1996 - and that
had twin hardware raid arrays!

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not begin to understand the mentality of the party he has been elected
to lead. He is quite simply a liberal"
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On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 22:25:37 -0000, jas0n <[email hidden]> wrote in
message <[email hidden]>:

Quoted message said:

What is it with all this windows bashing! .... We wouldnt be where we
are today without it!

I wouldn't, anyway. My job exists primarily because Windows is so
unreliable :-)

Guy
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