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  1. I learnt to swim as a child, but never really learnt to do it properly and
    preferred to use a nose clip rather than try and to the breathing properly,
    though I had no idea what properly was! Anyway I have now accidently joined
    an adult swimming class, I'm English, but live in Korea and don't speak
    Korean, I wanted to join a gym so I could go swimming and work out and have
    accidently committed myself to a month of thrice weekly swimming lessons for
    adults!

    We are currently learning to do front crawl "properly", the instructor is
    very good to me and mimes everything for me, but I'm having trouble
    understanding exactly what he wants me to do breathingwise, I know when I am
    supposed to breath and what position my head etc. should be in, but I'm
    having trouble with the in, out and what to breathe out of etc. I've been
    breathing every stroke rather than every other as I'm pregnant.

    Here's what I think I'm supposed to be doing

    head in the water, breath out through my nose gently
    head comes out, instantly over mouth as if saying "pa", short and sharp
    then take a deep breath

    Can someone help?

    Cheers

    Anne

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    Anne

    read about out adventures in Korea at
    http://www.livejournal.com/users/annekrogers

  2. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Anne Rogers said:

    I've been
    breathing every stroke rather than every other as I'm pregnant.

    Congratulations!

    Are you saying that you breathe left, then right, then left, etc, very
    rapidly? I've done that as a drill (to emphasize maintaining a
    streamline while breathing), and gotten pretty good at it, but it
    shouldn't be necessary even if you're in your 8th month.

    Or are you saying you're breathing every left or every right, but not
    both? That's pretty much normal.

    Are you saying you would like to skip strokes while breathing? As in:
    breathe left while stroking right, stroke left, stroke right, stroke
    left, breathe left while stroking right? I can do that for short races,
    but I run out of air in longer events.

    And I'm not even pregnant. :-)

    Quoted message said:

    Here's what I think I'm supposed to be doing

    head in the water, breath out through my nose gently

    Some people find that they also need to breathe out through the mouth.
    The point is to exhale enough to make room for the fresh air.

    Quoted message said:

    head comes out, instantly over mouth as if saying "pa", short and sharp
    then take a deep breath

    Exhaling with a short "pa" has good and bad points. There's a
    trade-off. It's good in that it might clear some water away from your
    lips, and exhale a bit more stale air (which shouldn't be necessary if
    you exhale enough while under water). It's bad because it takes time
    that you should be using to inhale instead.

    If you're just leisurely doing laps, it doesn't matter.

    But in a race, the time requirement is the deciding issue. If you feel
    the urge to exhale with a "pa", you need to exhale more while under
    water instead.

    Quoted message said:


    Can someone help?

    Besides the above, most beginners have trouble because they feel an urge
    to lift their heads while breathing. Don't do that (at least not until
    your balance and lumbar strength are as good as Janet Evans'😉. Keep the
    top of your head in the water, rotating your head and body to bring your
    mouth out of the water.

    Rotating your body gives you a bit more time with your mouth out of the
    water, and also has the added advantage of bringing your shoulder out of
    the water to reduce drag.

    Ross

  3. Hi Ann, If you breathe every stroke you might hyperventilate. Why not
    continue to wear your nose clip and breath out through your mouth the
    way your teacher wants you to. The best way is to breath out
    underwater and then roll to breath in every three strokes. Dont lift
    your head, just roll over a bit so your mouth is above water. I guess
    saying "pa" at that time clears the last bit of air out of your lungs
    before you breath in. That sounds like a good idea. If you relax and
    don't try too hard, being pregnant won't matter.

    Ross Bogue said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Anne Rogers said:

    I've been
    breathing every stroke rather than every other as I'm pregnant.

    Congratulations!

    Are you saying that you breathe left, then right, then left, etc,


    very

    Quoted message said:

    rapidly? I've done that as a drill (to emphasize maintaining a
    streamline while breathing), and gotten pretty good at it, but it
    shouldn't be necessary even if you're in your 8th month.

    Or are you saying you're breathing every left or every right, but not

    Quoted message said:

    both? That's pretty much normal.

    Are you saying you would like to skip strokes while breathing? As


    in:

    Quoted message said:

    breathe left while stroking right, stroke left, stroke right, stroke
    left, breathe left while stroking right? I can do that for short


    races,

    Quoted message said:

    but I run out of air in longer events.

    And I'm not even pregnant. :-)

    Quoted message said:

    Here's what I think I'm supposed to be doing

    head in the water, breath out through my nose gently

    Some people find that they also need to breathe out through the


    mouth.

    Quoted message said:

    The point is to exhale enough to make room for the fresh air.

    Quoted message said:

    head comes out, instantly over mouth as if saying "pa", short and


    sharp

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    then take a deep breath

    Exhaling with a short "pa" has good and bad points. There's a
    trade-off. It's good in that it might clear some water away from


    your

    Quoted message said:

    lips, and exhale a bit more stale air (which shouldn't be necessary


    if

    Quoted message said:

    you exhale enough while under water). It's bad because it takes time

    Quoted message said:

    that you should be using to inhale instead.

    If you're just leisurely doing laps, it doesn't matter.

    But in a race, the time requirement is the deciding issue. If you


    feel

    Quoted message said:

    the urge to exhale with a "pa", you need to exhale more while under
    water instead.

    Quoted message said:


    Can someone help?

    Besides the above, most beginners have trouble because they feel an


    urge

    Quoted message said:

    to lift their heads while breathing. Don't do that (at least not


    until

    Quoted message said:

    your balance and lumbar strength are as good as Janet Evans'😉. Keep


    the

    Quoted message said:

    top of your head in the water, rotating your head and body to bring


    your

    Quoted message said:

    mouth out of the water.

    Rotating your body gives you a bit more time with your mouth out of


    the

    Quoted message said:

    water, and also has the added advantage of bringing your shoulder out


    of

    Quoted message said:

    the water to reduce drag.

    Ross

  4. Quoted message said:

    Are you saying that you breathe left, then right, then left, etc, very
    rapidly? I've done that as a drill (to emphasize maintaining a
    streamline while breathing), and gotten pretty good at it, but it
    shouldn't be necessary even if you're in your 8th month.

    that is what I am doing

    Quoted message said:


    Or are you saying you're breathing every left or every right, but not
    both? That's pretty much normal.

    I can manage that for about 2 strokes, then am very very short of breath.
    I'm not unfit, but last time I measured my lung capacity, it was fairly
    small even when not pregnant.

    Quoted message said:

    Some people find that they also need to breathe out through the mouth.
    The point is to exhale enough to make room for the fresh air.

    Quoted message said:

    head comes out, instantly over mouth as if saying "pa", short and sharp
    then take a deep breath

    Exhaling with a short "pa" has good and bad points. There's a
    trade-off. It's good in that it might clear some water away from your
    lips, and exhale a bit more stale air (which shouldn't be necessary if
    you exhale enough while under water). It's bad because it takes time
    that you should be using to inhale instead.

    If you're just leisurely doing laps, it doesn't matter.

    well it's fairly leisurely, but with having to relearn everything I'm about
    at the stage of just about managing a length, but not always, I keep getting
    something wrong, then mucking up the breathing and having to stop!

    Quoted message said:


    But in a race, the time requirement is the deciding issue. If you feel
    the urge to exhale with a "pa", you need to exhale more while under
    water instead.

    Quoted message said:


    Can someone help?

    Besides the above, most beginners have trouble because they feel an urge
    to lift their heads while breathing. Don't do that (at least not until
    your balance and lumbar strength are as good as Janet Evans'😉. Keep the
    top of your head in the water, rotating your head and body to bring your
    mouth out of the water.

    Rotating your body gives you a bit more time with your mouth out of the
    water, and also has the added advantage of bringing your shoulder out of
    the water to reduce drag.

    Thanks, that's exactly what the coach has been trying to get me to do, it
    just takes time to train my body to do it automatically.

    Thanks for your help

    Anne

  5. Quoted message said:

    Hi Ann, If you breathe every stroke you might hyperventilate. Why not
    continue to wear your nose clip and breath out through your mouth the
    way your teacher wants you to. The best way is to breath out
    underwater and then roll to breath in every three strokes. Dont lift
    your head, just roll over a bit so your mouth is above water. I guess
    saying "pa" at that time clears the last bit of air out of your lungs
    before you breath in. That sounds like a good idea. If you relax and
    don't try too hard, being pregnant won't matter.

    And if I breathe every other, I might drown! I've noticed when we are
    practicing just the leg kick with a float that the other women take a lot
    longer between each breath and I really am pushing myself to the limit.

    I don't have a nose clip handy, so I won't go back to that, I don't think
    the coach would be very happy and when the only words we can understand is
    yes, no and hello, I couldn't explain.

    Anne

  6. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Anne Rogers said:

    I can manage that for about 2 strokes, then am very very short of breath.
    I'm not unfit, but last time I measured my lung capacity, it was fairly
    small even when not pregnant.

    I understand. Lung capacity is not my strong suit either. But with a
    bit of practice, you can still exhale enough under water so you're ready
    to start inhaling the moment your mouth clears the water.

    Quoted message said:

    well it's fairly leisurely, but with having to relearn everything I'm about
    at the stage of just about managing a length, but not always, I keep getting
    something wrong, then mucking up the breathing and having to stop!

    Then it's probably good that you're going slowly. If the movements are
    new to you, you need to concentrate on doing them well. And you may
    need to stop stroking occasionally and just glide on your side while you
    regain your balance. That's ok.

    Ross

  7. Anne Rogers said:

    And if I breathe every other, I might drown!

    No, you won't, the water will hold you - and this might be part of
    your problem with the breathing: maybe you don't trust the water and
    instead of relaxing, you start to panic and breathe every stroke.
    Therefore I would propose (additionally to what the others already
    said) that you spent some time on doing basic balance drills - relax,
    feel the balance and enjoy the floating, relax more.

    Then start to work on your breathing (first with basic drills here as
    well if you like to - easy kicking with a float would be a start, and
    if you feel more comfortable in the children's pool, use this). Don't
    push yourself in this, stay relaxed, and try several ways to do it to
    see what fits for you - hold your breath for a moment before breathing
    out or immediatly start to exhale, breath out through mouth and nose
    or only nose, reduce the amount of air you are exhaling through your
    nose, maybe try it without this "pa"-thing, and check your head
    position (if you are too deep in the water, breathing is not as easy)
    as well as your timing (if you start too late or stop too early with
    the head rotation, the time for getting air is decreasing).

    Stay relaxed includes: don't do much of a kick - if your legs move
    more than just a little bit, you are wasting energy like hell and you
    need a lot of air. Check you water position as well, the more you are
    away from a horizontal position, the harder you have to work and, here
    again, you need a lot air. Your other movements like the stroke should
    be calm and relaxed as well - if your stroke is slow, you have more
    time to get air, if you struggle less with the water and stop rotating
    continously for air, you waste less energy.

    If possible, do some backstroke in between - kicking is much the same,
    you get a lot of air and feeling for the balance, and this will relax
    your backbone from carrying around someone else 🙂.

    Practice a lot is going to help then as well - you are getting used to
    breathe and it's becoming more easy, plus your lung capacity will grow
    automatically.

    Hope that something of this is a help for you 🙂
    Sybille

  8. Its the kicking that tends to make us breathless. If they have
    pull-buoys there, try one. Its a float for the legs. I wonder if
    being pregnant gives you more buoyancy or less?

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