Armstrong out

Flew back to Gerona after Wednesday's stage. Bruyneel says He stepped
out of bed with a sore throat, was suffering immensely during the ride
and felt fevery afterwards. In the busride home He was shaking like a
leaf. His start in the Catalan Week is no longer certain.

<http://www.nu.nl/img.db?494719+s(120!x120!)>

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Ewoud Dronkert said:

Flew back to Gerona after Wednesday's stage. Bruyneel says He stepped
out of bed with a sore throat, was suffering immensely during the ride
and felt fevery afterwards. In the busride home He was shaking like a
leaf. His start in the Catalan Week is no longer certain.

<http://www.nu.nl/img.db?494719+s(120!x120!)>

Please add your opinion.

Robert Chung said:

Please add your opinion.

It is that I should have checked out CN more closely before posting a
translation from teletext. But how about that cute little photo, eh!

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Ewoud Dronkert schreef:

Quoted message said:

Robert Chung said:

Please add your opinion.

It is that I should have checked out CN

or RBR

Van Hoorebeeck Bart said:

Quoted message said:

It is that I should have checked out CN

or RBR

Doh! And I even posted in that thread. Generally, I don't pay much
attention to rbr subject lines..

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Quoted message said:

Ewoud Dronkert said:

Flew back to Gerona after Wednesday's stage. Bruyneel says He stepped
out of bed with a sore throat, was suffering immensely during the ride
and felt fevery afterwards. In the busride home He was shaking like a
leaf. His start in the Catalan Week is no longer certain.

<http://www.nu.nl/img.db?494719+s(120!x120!)>

Please add your opinion.

It was probably dehydration that made his throat sore. Lose 10% to 15% of
you body weight and it can have different effects. It's actually quite easy
to dehydrate in cold weather.

Robert Chung said:

Please add your opinion.

Getting same day coverage from a.b.m.s is very cool.

Julich will do well. But he won't win. Valverde will.

Lafferty is doping. That's why seeing Vayer get shredded after
doing one of his 'You haven't read it, get back to me once
you've read it' dodges will not keep him from spouting off
about Walsh.

Bob Schwartz
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"Bob Schwartz" <[email hidden]> wrote ...

Quoted message said:

Lafferty ...doing one of his 'You haven't read it, get back to me once
you've read it' dodges...

I'm glad I wasn't the only one who saw it for what it was.

JF

Charles said:

This is apparently an extremely pro (biased) Armstrong forum.

Well, for the record I think Ullrich's Tour prep is way more
suspiscious than anything LANCE does. By that I mean the way
he sucks in the spring, disappears for a couple of weeks, and
then shows up again loaded for bear. He seems to always make
a ton of progress in those pre-Tour training camps of his.

Bob Schwartz
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Charles said:

This is apparently an extremely pro (biased) Armstrong forum.

Well, for the record I think Ullrich's Tour prep is way more
suspiscious than anything LANCE does. By that I mean the way
he sucks in the spring, disappears for a couple of weeks, and
then shows up again loaded for bear. He seems to always make
a ton of progress in those pre-Tour training camps of his.

I seem to recall, correct me if I'm wrong, that Ullrich is a product of the
East German cycling system. Perhaps he just said "no" and achieved all on
ability alone. Your argument strike me as, shall we say, amusing.

Charles said:

Quoted message said:

Let me put it this way. Has Vayer's work been peer reviewed?

Quoted message said:

Thus far, one would be hard pressed to identify a "peer" doing any reviewing
here.

We are in agreement then that the answer is no.

How do you feel about bananas?

Bob Schwartz
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There will be no more follow-ups from me. I promise.

Robert Chung said:

Charles said:

Thus far, one would be hard pressed to identify a "peer" doing any
reviewing here.

I beg your pardon. I'm a complete hack, which makes me a perfect peer to
Vayer.

BTW, what were the "false arguments and unwarranted assumptions?"

Charles said:

I seem to recall, correct me if I'm wrong, that Ullrich is a product of the
East German cycling system. Perhaps he just said "no" and achieved all on
ability alone. Your argument strike me as, shall we say, amusing.

That's OK. Its undergoing a pee-er review as we speak. Damned if I
know how you spell that wthout the hyphen.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...

Robert Chung said:

Ewoud Dronkert said:

Flew back to Gerona after Wednesday's stage. Bruyneel says He stepped
out of bed with a sore throat, was suffering immensely during the ride
and felt fevery afterwards. In the busride home He was shaking like a
leaf. His start in the Catalan Week is no longer certain.

<http://www.nu.nl/img.db?494719+s(120!x120!)>

Please add your opinion.

Please, we prefer facts in the reality-based community.
Say "Please add a qualitative aspect to your post", if you will.

Charles said:

Professeur d'éducation physique et sportive, Antoine Vayer

While that may sound impressive, it means he's a gym (pe) teacher.

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I said:

But how about that cute little photo, eh!

Here's a larger version:
http://www.vrtnieuws.net/sport_master/wielrennen/protour/050310_armstrong_geeft_op/s_050310_armstrong1-20050310-073433.jpg

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Ewoud Dronkert said:

Charles said:

Professeur d'?ducation physique et sportive, Antoine Vayer

Quoted message said:

While that may sound impressive, it means he's a gym (pe) teacher.

Have you read the book? Don't draw any conclusions until you have
read the book.

And it will be different once the book is published in English.
You haven't read the English edition, have you?

Just ask our schizophrenic friend Charles. He'll tell you.

Bob Schwartz
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Quoted message said:

Ewoud Dronkert said:

Charles said:

Professeur d'?ducation physique et sportive, Antoine Vayer

Quoted message said:

While that may sound impressive, it means he's a gym (pe) teacher.

Have you read the book? Don't draw any conclusions until you have
read the book.

And it will be different once the book is published in English.
You haven't read the English edition, have you?

Just ask our schizophrenic friend Charles. He'll tell you.

Bob Schwartz
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I would assume from the above, correct me if I'm wrong, that Vayer does have
a university degree of some sort. Out of curiosity, does Chris Carmichael
have a university degree. Not that this really matters. Just curious.

Charles said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> Professeur d'éducation physique et sportive, Antoine Vayer

I would assume from the above, correct me if I'm wrong, that Vayer
does have a university degree of some sort.

Well actually, I guess it could be. But school teachers are also called
professeur.

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