creatine??/``

"Chris" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

decided to try creatine, I hear it increases your testostarone (cant

spell)

Quoted message said:

levels.... this true?? I also hear that it can lead to hair loss, and
impotence??/

any guidance, experiences with creatine out there??/

Any help appreciated many thanks!!

Take it. It works.

--
It rubs the lotion on its skin...
Or else it gets the hose again...
www.dwacon.com

Chris said:

decided to try creatine, I hear it increases your
testostarone (cant spell)levels.... this true?? I also hear
that it can lead to hair loss, and impotence??/
any guidance, experiences with creatine out there??/

You and 'what you hear' are confusing creatine with steroid side
effects. Get on the higher end of the learning curve and do some
reading about supplements by starting here: http://tinyurl.com/2djbs

<<joni>>

In article <[email hidden]>,

Chris said:

decided to try creatine, I hear it increases your testostarone (cant spell)
levels.... this true??

No.

Quoted message said:

I also hear that it can lead to hair loss, and
impotence??/

No and no.

Quoted message said:

any guidance, experiences with creatine out there??/

How lazy can you be? Try a google search.

Quoted message said:

Any help appreciated many thanks!!

--
Will Brink @ http://www.brinkzone.com/

Google searches and that dont really give hands on experience, just some
seller wanting to sell creatine thats it..... There is a few pages on the
facts that creatine hasn't been around long enough to determine the long
term effects... they say it has been tested and can possibly lead to
impotence... but the long term effects cannot be listed correctly due to it
not being around long enough..

So any more wise ass answers?? I posted here thinking since you all seem to
know what you're talking bout that maybe someone could give me some
information on what they took and any effects either positive or negative
they experienced..

as for the other post, yes I know the difference between steroids and
creatine, but if you read up on it slightly, you too would see that creatine
has been proven to raise the testostirone levels in your body!!!! excess
testostirone levels in the body CAN lead to hair loss!!!! hence the reason
its alot more common to see bald males rather than females!!!. I like the
way that there's a few wise asses out there(not speaking bout everyone) that
think they know a bit and think of themselves as superior and talk down to
even insult someone who's looking for guidance... If your not willing to
help or share your experiences then DON'T!!! there's no need to be pathetic
and write stupid thick brain dead answers to make yourself feel "superior".
if you wanna pick a fight or insult someone don't hide behind your PC, go
out into the real world!!! see how long you last!!..

Thanks to the people who answered my questions directly without being smart
bout it.

j.

"Will Brink" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Chris said:

decided to try creatine, I hear it increases your testostarone (cant
spell)
levels.... this true??

No.

Quoted message said:

I also hear that it can lead to hair loss, and
impotence??/

No and no.

Quoted message said:

any guidance, experiences with creatine out there??/

How lazy can you be? Try a google search.

Quoted message said:

Any help appreciated many thanks!!

--
Will Brink @ http://www.brinkzone.com/

"Chris" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Google searches and that dont really give hands on experience, just some
seller wanting to sell creatine thats it..... There is a few pages on the
facts that creatine hasn't been around long enough to determine the long
term effects... they say it has been tested and can possibly lead to
impotence... but the long term effects cannot be listed correctly due to

it

Quoted message said:

not being around long enough..

So any more wise ass answers?? I posted here thinking since you all seem

to

Quoted message said:

know what you're talking bout that maybe someone could give me some
information on what they took and any effects either positive or negative
they experienced..

as for the other post, yes I know the difference between steroids and
creatine, but if you read up on it slightly, you too would see that

creatine

Quoted message said:

has been proven to raise the testostirone levels in your body!!!! excess
testostirone levels in the body CAN lead to hair loss!!!! hence the reason
its alot more common to see bald males rather than females!!!. I like the
way that there's a few wise asses out there(not speaking bout everyone)

that

Quoted message said:

think they know a bit and think of themselves as superior and talk down to
even insult someone who's looking for guidance... If your not willing to
help or share your experiences then DON'T!!! there's no need to be

pathetic

Quoted message said:

and write stupid thick brain dead answers to make yourself feel

"superior".

Quoted message said:

if you wanna pick a fight or insult someone don't hide behind your PC, go
out into the real world!!! see how long you last!!..

Thanks to the people who answered my questions directly without being

smart

Quoted message said:

bout it.

j.

Boy, you really need to take a deep breath. Before you go and offend
everyone who might help you really should LISTEN. I'm guessing you did a
Google search for websites and that's all. Did you know you can Google
search newsgroups (and the archives)? So since your question has been asked
about 479 times you could just go read the replies to those other inquires
(certainly a better idea than being pissy at anyone trying to help you).

BTW, while you're doing the Google thing, try looking up Will Brink and
seeing if maybe he has a better understanding of what he's talking about
than you. See, you go and spout the
marketing/anti-marketing/myth/propaganda tag lines and it's pretty obvious
to everyone else just how deep your knowledge goes.

Go in peace.....

Explain this term "help" you refer to quite a bit.... cause I aint sure you
and I have the same meaning of the word.... I don't care who Will Brink is
or what he does!!! ok so he might know his stuff, if as you say its been
asked 400+ times and you don't wanna be asked again, we'll then don't
answer!!! there's no need in cutting down someone who isn't as "EXPERIENCED"
as you and Mr Brink SEEM to be.... If I went to the doctor, said I was sick;
I'm stating the obvious but he's hardly gonna say NO YOU DON'T SAY!!! Why?>?
cause someone who doesn't know whats wrong is asking his advice!!!! A doctor
doesn't have attitude!!! pity it can't be said the same about you or MR
BRINK!!! you were once clueless and new to all this as am I.... Pity you
seemed to forget that...

All HAIL Mr Brink!!!.. I can just see you in one of his fans Tshirts... "a
bit of Brink in me" or some [censored] like that!!!..

"Spammers_Should_Be_Shot" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

"Chris" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Google searches and that dont really give hands on experience, just some
seller wanting to sell creatine thats it..... There is a few pages on the
facts that creatine hasn't been around long enough to determine the long
term effects... they say it has been tested and can possibly lead to
impotence... but the long term effects cannot be listed correctly due to

it

Quoted message said:

not being around long enough..

So any more wise ass answers?? I posted here thinking since you all seem

to

Quoted message said:

know what you're talking bout that maybe someone could give me some
information on what they took and any effects either positive or negative
they experienced..

as for the other post, yes I know the difference between steroids and
creatine, but if you read up on it slightly, you too would see that

creatine

Quoted message said:

has been proven to raise the testostirone levels in your body!!!! excess
testostirone levels in the body CAN lead to hair loss!!!! hence the
reason
its alot more common to see bald males rather than females!!!. I like the
way that there's a few wise asses out there(not speaking bout everyone)

that

Quoted message said:

think they know a bit and think of themselves as superior and talk down
to
even insult someone who's looking for guidance... If your not willing to
help or share your experiences then DON'T!!! there's no need to be

pathetic

Quoted message said:

and write stupid thick brain dead answers to make yourself feel

"superior".

Quoted message said:

if you wanna pick a fight or insult someone don't hide behind your PC, go
out into the real world!!! see how long you last!!..

Thanks to the people who answered my questions directly without being

smart

Quoted message said:

bout it.

j.

Boy, you really need to take a deep breath. Before you go and offend
everyone who might help you really should LISTEN. I'm guessing you did a
Google search for websites and that's all. Did you know you can Google
search newsgroups (and the archives)? So since your question has been
asked
about 479 times you could just go read the replies to those other inquires
(certainly a better idea than being pissy at anyone trying to help you).

BTW, while you're doing the Google thing, try looking up Will Brink and
seeing if maybe he has a better understanding of what he's talking about
than you. See, you go and spout the
marketing/anti-marketing/myth/propaganda tag lines and it's pretty obvious
to everyone else just how deep your knowledge goes.

Go in peace.....

"Chris" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Explain this term "help" you refer to quite a bit....

"Quite a bit"? I used the word help exactly ONCE.

Quoted message said:

cause I aint sure you
and I have the same meaning of the word.... I don't care who Will Brink is
or what he does!!! ok so he might know his stuff, if as you say its been
asked 400+ times and you don't wanna be asked again, we'll then don't
answer!!!

Ah, so you control newsgroups now? Anyone can respond any way they want.
You don't like it, you don't have to read it.

Quoted message said:

there's no need in cutting down someone who isn't as "EXPERIENCED"
as you and Mr Brink SEEM to be....

Calling you lazy because you are lazy isn't "cutting" you down, it's just
pointing out the obvious.

Quoted message said:

If I went to the doctor, said I was sick;
I'm stating the obvious but he's hardly gonna say NO YOU DON'T SAY!!!

Why?>?

Quoted message said:

cause someone who doesn't know whats wrong is asking his advice!!!! A

doctor

Quoted message said:

doesn't have attitude!!!

You pay your doctor? I'm guessing if you went to doctors for free advice
you might find the quality of responses range from good to out-right poor.

Quoted message said:

pity it can't be said the same about you or MR
BRINK!!! you were once clueless and new to all this as am I.... Pity you
seemed to forget that...

I haven't forgotten it. But as a newbie you should take responsibilty for
your own education and spend 2 minutes researching your question. Or,
failing that, be a little less thin skinned about how you're treated.

Quoted message said:

All HAIL Mr Brink!!!.. I can just see you in one of his fans Tshirts... "a
bit of Brink in me" or some [censored] like that!!!..

Actually, I'm not a Brink fan, but I do respect his knowledge in some areas
and certainly don't think you responded appropriately to his comment.

Maybe you can chalk this up to a learning experience and move on?

Chris said:

as for the other post, yes I know the difference between steroids and
creatine, but if you read up on it slightly, you too would see that creatine
has been proven to raise the testostirone levels in your body!!!!

Post a study that proves your assertion.

-----------
Proton Soup

"Thanks for noticing that I didn't actually say anything." - Mike Lane

Post a study that proves my assertion??? See a nutritionist..... I did....
they told me the facts, and the side effects of creatine; So I have done my
research, just wanted to make sure that the information they were providing
me with was correct rather than personal opinion...

"Proton Soup" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Chris said:

as for the other post, yes I know the difference between steroids and
creatine, but if you read up on it slightly, you too would see that
creatine
has been proven to raise the testostirone levels in your body!!!!

Post a study that proves your assertion.

-----------
Proton Soup

"Thanks for noticing that I didn't actually say anything." - Mike Lane

"Spammers_Should_Be_Shot" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

"Chris" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Explain this term "help" you refer to quite a bit....

"Quite a bit"? I used the word help exactly ONCE.

Quoted message said:

cause I aint sure you
and I have the same meaning of the word.... I don't care who Will Brink
is
or what he does!!! ok so he might know his stuff, if as you say its been
asked 400+ times and you don't wanna be asked again, we'll then don't
answer!!!

Ah, so you control newsgroups now? Anyone can respond any way they want.
You don't like it, you don't have to read it.

Kinda hard not to read it since its addressed to the original post I put
up... You on the otherhand were not asked directly, it was POSTED in this
newsgroup!! You didn't have to reply, if you werent gonna give beneficial
advice.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

there's no need in cutting down someone who isn't as "EXPERIENCED"
as you and Mr Brink SEEM to be....

Calling you lazy because you are lazy isn't "cutting" you down, it's just
pointing out the obvious.

Calling me lazy?? I never said I didn't research, I did one step further
than just looking on the web, I met up with a fitness instructor and a
nutritionist... I did my research, I'm FAR from lazy... Just wanted to
confirm whether the facts they were telling me were facts instead of
personal opinion

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

If I went to the doctor, said I was sick;
I'm stating the obvious but he's hardly gonna say NO YOU DON'T SAY!!!

Why?>?

Quoted message said:

cause someone who doesn't know whats wrong is asking his advice!!!! A

doctor

Quoted message said:

doesn't have attitude!!!

You pay your doctor? I'm guessing if you went to doctors for free advice
you might find the quality of responses range from good to out-right poor.

A Doctor has a qualification!! hence the reason I pay for his insight, YOU
on the other hand have nothing. I was asking a broad question of personal
experiences etc of the product...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

pity it can't be said the same about you or MR
BRINK!!! you were once clueless and new to all this as am I.... Pity you
seemed to forget that...

I haven't forgotten it. But as a newbie you should take responsibilty for
your own education and spend 2 minutes researching your question. Or,
failing that, be a little less thin skinned about how you're treated.

Less skinned on how I'm treated?? look your obviously one of these dopes
that think they know all, and hide behind their PC screen, mouthing off,
trying to insult people to make their life better... once again, the post
wasn't addressed to YOU!!! you didn't have to answer it!!!

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

All HAIL Mr Brink!!!.. I can just see you in one of his fans Tshirts...
"a
bit of Brink in me" or some [censored] like that!!!..

Actually, I'm not a Brink fan, but I do respect his knowledge in some
areas
and certainly don't think you responded appropriately to his comment.

<snip>

Quoted message said:

any guidance, experiences with creatine out there??/

How lazy can you be? Try a google search.

Quoted message said:

Any help appreciated many thanks!!

Responded appropriately to his comment?!?!!? how the hell can I respond
appropiately to his comment?? His whole reply consisted of 3 no's and that
garbage above!!!!

Quoted message said:

Maybe you can chalk this up to a learning experience and move on?

I will move on... I have a life!!! I came here looking for information, you
on the other hand use this place as your sanctuary!!! a place where you can
feel good and pretend you know alot on something which you obviously do not.

Enjoy your life my little friend... and enjoy PUMPIN the iron, cause by the
sounds of things its the only thing you'll be pumping for quite some
time!!!..

Alcohol can only do so much to a girls vision..

J.

Chris you are giving people with my name a BAD NAME. Please do some more
research before posting such idiotic questions.

Thanx, The real Chris

On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 20:18:26 -0600, [email hidden]

(Hobbes) said:

Well, you get the idea. I couldn't find anything on the SportsDiscus
database linking creatine with increased testosterone.

Yep, and Chris is showing himself to be little more than a troll.

-----------
Proton Soup

"Thanks for noticing that I didn't actually say anything." - Mike Lane

In article <[email hidden]>,

Chris said:

So any more wise ass answers??

How many more would you like Mr Top Poster?

Quoted message said:

but if you read up on it slightly, you too would see that creatine
has been proven to raise the testostirone levels in your body!!!!

Wrong.

Quoted message said:

Thanks to the people who answered my questions directly without being smart
bout it.

Way to make a good impression on mfw. I sense flames coming your way son.

--
Will Brink @ http://www.brinkzone.com/

In article <[email hidden]>,

Chris said:

I will move on...

Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.

--
Will Brink @ http://www.brinkzone.com/

Wrong about seeing a nutritionist?? and where do you seem to get your facts
from?? just cause you have one bloody web page?? Ooh god.... I'm at your
mercy.

"Will Brink" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Chris said:

So any more wise ass answers??

How many more would you like Mr Top Poster?

Quoted message said:

but if you read up on it slightly, you too would see that creatine
has been proven to raise the testostirone levels in your body!!!!

Wrong.

Quoted message said:

Thanks to the people who answered my questions directly without being
smart
bout it.

Way to make a good impression on mfw. I sense flames coming your way son.

--
Will Brink @ http://www.brinkzone.com/

In article <[email hidden]>,

Chris said:

Wrong about seeing a nutritionist??

I see reading skills are not your strong point. If the "nutritionist"
told you creatine increased testosterone, they were wrong. Clear enough
sparky?

Quoted message said:

and where do you seem to get your facts
from??

God.

Quoted message said:

just cause you have one bloody web page?? Ooh god.... I'm at your
mercy.

That much is true. Carry on sparky, you are digging a great big hole for
yourself.

--
Will Brink @ http://www.brinkzone.com/

Chris said:

Wrong about seeing a nutritionist?? and where do you seem to get
your facts from?? just cause you have one bloody web page?? Ooh
god.... I'm at your mercy.

Usually I don't make a point of intervening in these love fests, but
if you seriously plan on using this group for information in the
future then you probably should rethink your tactics. Mocking Will's
knowledge of nutrition only makes you look like an idiot. It's like
making fun of Arnold Schwarzenegger's biceps.

Eventually you are probably going to have some actual questions that
you want answered, and if you antagonize the folks here then it's
entirely possible that you will simply be ignored.

Just some friendly advice.
Jason

On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 09:08:31 -0500, Will Brink
<[email hidden]> wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Chris said:

Post a study that proves my assertion??? See a nutritionist..... I did....
they told me the facts, and the side effects of creatine; So I have done my
research, just wanted to make sure that the information they were providing
me with was correct rather than personal opinion...

Wow, we got us a class A [censored] here folks!

That was my impression. Probably voted for Kerry too.

On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 15:37:05 -0700, Jason Earl <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Chris said:

Wrong about seeing a nutritionist?? and where do you seem to get
your facts from?? just cause you have one bloody web page?? Ooh
god.... I'm at your mercy.

Usually I don't make a point of intervening in these love fests, but
if you seriously plan on using this group for information in the
future then you probably should rethink your tactics. Mocking Will's
knowledge of nutrition only makes you look like an idiot. It's like
making fun of Arnold Schwarzenegger's biceps.

Eventually you are probably going to have some actual questions that
you want answered, and if you antagonize the folks here then it's
entirely possible that you will simply be ignored.

That doesn't mean he has to accept all Brink's rudeness in the hope
that some crumbs may come his way. It would do no harm if both parties
introduced some common sense and civility.

You are not helping Jason, by getting involved and taking sides,
having first worked out which side might be more to your own personal
advantage!!