creatine??/``

"Charles" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

Jason Earl said:

Chris said:

Wrong about seeing a nutritionist?? and where do you seem to get
your facts from?? just cause you have one bloody web page?? Ooh
god.... I'm at your mercy.

Usually I don't make a point of intervening in these love fests, but
if you seriously plan on using this group for information in the
future then you probably should rethink your tactics. Mocking Will's
knowledge of nutrition only makes you look like an idiot. It's like
making fun of Arnold Schwarzenegger's biceps.

Eventually you are probably going to have some actual questions that
you want answered, and if you antagonize the folks here then it's
entirely possible that you will simply be ignored.

That doesn't mean he has to accept all Brink's rudeness in the hope
that some crumbs may come his way. It would do no harm if both parties
introduced some common sense and civility.

You are not helping Jason, by getting involved and taking sides,
having first worked out which side might be more to your own personal
advantage!!

Well, at least you and Down Under David haven't taken sides with regard to
Will.

David

David Cohen said:

"Charles" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

Jason Earl said:

"Chris" <[email hidden]> writes:
> Wrong about seeing a nutritionist?? and where do you seem to get
> your facts from?? just cause you have one bloody web page?? Ooh
> god.... I'm at your mercy.

Usually I don't make a point of intervening in these love fests, but
if you seriously plan on using this group for information in the
future then you probably should rethink your tactics. Mocking Will's
knowledge of nutrition only makes you look like an idiot. It's like
making fun of Arnold Schwarzenegger's biceps.

Eventually you are probably going to have some actual questions that
you want answered, and if you antagonize the folks here then it's
entirely possible that you will simply be ignored.

That doesn't mean he has to accept all Brink's rudeness in the hope
that some crumbs may come his way. It would do no harm if both parties
introduced some common sense and civility.

You are not helping Jason, by getting involved and taking sides,
having first worked out which side might be more to your own personal
advantage!!

Well, at least you and Down Under David haven't taken sides with regard to
Will.

You make a good point Cohen!!

Which just goes to prove what an example of impartiality can do to
encourage people to be more helpful, in the time-honoured and
traditional MFW way!! ;o)

"Jason Earl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Chris said:

Wrong about seeing a nutritionist?? and where do you seem to get
your facts from?? just cause you have one bloody web page?? Ooh
god.... I'm at your mercy.

Usually I don't make a point of intervening in these love fests, but
if you seriously plan on using this group for information in the
future then you probably should rethink your tactics. Mocking Will's
knowledge of nutrition only makes you look like an idiot. It's like
making fun of Arnold Schwarzenegger's biceps.

Eventually you are probably going to have some actual questions that
you want answered, and if you antagonize the folks here then it's
entirely possible that you will simply be ignored.

Just some friendly advice.
Jason

Jason,
Look I really don't care if I get ignored as you say in this newgroup, it
seems there's no team here at all, you and Mr BRINK seem to think you are
high and mighty and choose to mock people like me, who are looking for
guidance. If thats all this group has to offer, by all means ignore.... No
guidance is better than the [censored] you and Mr BRINK have given.....

This really is childish and quite pathetic, Mr BRINK being smart about his
answer to my original post (3 no's and a statement saying I was lazy etc).
Then good old Jason, the little dog chasing the big dog.... defending him
blah blah blah... Like bloody kids I tell you... Look all I wanted was
personal experiences with the product, whether someone would recommend it
and any side effects that people know of OFF THE TOP OF THEIR HEAD!!! I
wasn't looking for a medical journal or a thesis or anything.

I thank you Charles for your mature approach, your email enlightened me and
made me see exactly how stupid I am to even bother reading the [censored] the pup
(Jason) and the dog (Mr BRINK) had posted. If anyone else can answer my
ORIGINAL post with experiences etc, please by all means, your guidance and
experience will be beneficial to me....

As for Mr BRINK and Jason.... I give you the two finger salute.... May your
Pc's live on forever.... seems to be the only fun you get.

ENJOY.

"John Hanson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 09:08:31 -0500, Will Brink
<[email hidden]> wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Chris said:

Post a study that proves my assertion??? See a nutritionist..... I
did....
they told me the facts, and the side effects of creatine; So I have done
my
research, just wanted to make sure that the information they were
providing
me with was correct rather than personal opinion...

Wow, we got us a class A [censored] here folks!

That was my impression. Probably voted for Kerry too.

Children children children.....

"Charles" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

David Cohen said:

"Charles" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

Jason Earl <[email hidden]> wrote:
>"Chris" <[email hidden]> writes:
>> Wrong about seeing a nutritionist?? and where do you seem to get
>> your facts from?? just cause you have one bloody web page?? Ooh
>> god.... I'm at your mercy.
>
>Usually I don't make a point of intervening in these love fests, but
>if you seriously plan on using this group for information in the
>future then you probably should rethink your tactics. Mocking Will's
>knowledge of nutrition only makes you look like an idiot. It's like
>making fun of Arnold Schwarzenegger's biceps.
>
>Eventually you are probably going to have some actual questions that
>you want answered, and if you antagonize the folks here then it's
>entirely possible that you will simply be ignored.

That doesn't mean he has to accept all Brink's rudeness in the hope
that some crumbs may come his way. It would do no harm if both parties
introduced some common sense and civility.

You are not helping Jason, by getting involved and taking sides,
having first worked out which side might be more to your own personal
advantage!!

Well, at least you and Down Under David haven't taken sides with regard to
Will.

You make a good point Cohen!!

It's my curse.

Quoted message said:

Which just goes to prove what an example of impartiality can do to
encourage people to be more helpful, in the time-honoured and
traditional MFW way!! ;o)

Exactly.

MFW: a supportive, civil, gentle newsgroup.

David

OK, I'll try:

"Chris" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

decided to try creatine,

Alright. If I may ask, why did you decide to try it?

Quoted message said:

I hear it increases your testostarone (cant spell)
levels.... this true??

No, that's not true.

Quoted message said:

I also hear that it can lead to hair loss, and
impotence??/

That's not correct. It does not.

Quoted message said:

any guidance, experiences with creatine out there??/

I like it but am not in love with it like some people. I'd put it high on
the "supplement list" but then again I'm a believer that most people tend to
overdo/over-rely on supplements.

Quoted message said:

Any help appreciated many thanks!!

You're welcome.

How was that?

Charles said:

On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 15:37:05 -0700, Jason Earl <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Chris said:

Wrong about seeing a nutritionist?? and where do you seem to get
your facts from?? just cause you have one bloody web page?? Ooh
god.... I'm at your mercy.

Usually I don't make a point of intervening in these love fests, but
if you seriously plan on using this group for information in the
future then you probably should rethink your tactics. Mocking
Will's knowledge of nutrition only makes you look like an idiot.
It's like making fun of Arnold Schwarzenegger's biceps.

Eventually you are probably going to have some actual questions that
you want answered, and if you antagonize the folks here then it's
entirely possible that you will simply be ignored.

That doesn't mean he has to accept all Brink's rudeness in the hope
that some crumbs may come his way. It would do no harm if both
parties introduced some common sense and civility.

Brink was more terse than rude, and as you have pointed out he clearly
has a lot to offer. He is a poster with a well-known reputation for
accuracy. What's more, Brink was right about the research bit. It's
proper netiquette to check to see if the question you are asking is
something that comes up frequently, and it's hard to think of a
subject that comes up more frequently on mfw than folks mistaking
creatine for some sort of anabolic steroid.

That's not that big a deal. Heck, I pitched in an answer to Chris'
initial question, as did a couple of other folks. Mocking the people
that are providing answers *is* a big deal. If Chris didn't think
that Brink's original response (which answered his questions) was
kosher he should have just ignored it.

Quoted message said:

You are not helping Jason, by getting involved and taking sides,
having first worked out which side might be more to your own
personal advantage!!

I am not taking sides merely pointing out what is already obvious to
anyone with a little bit of USENET experience. Brink has the
knowledge that Chris wants (assuming that Chris isn't a troll who is
merely trying to stir things up). Antagonizing Brink is a very poor
way of extracting said information. It really is as simple as that.
Just like it is in my personal best interest to not antagonize Brink,
it is also in Chris' personal interest to be more courteous to Brink.
I am merely pointing that out.

I may be new to mfw, but I have been posting to USENET for a very long
time, and that's simply the way it works. Eventually newbies learn
netiquette or they end up being ignored. I personally believe that
it's best to be a bit bald about the truth of the matter.

Jason

Chris said:

"Jason Earl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Chris said:

Wrong about seeing a nutritionist?? and where do you seem to get
your facts from?? just cause you have one bloody web page?? Ooh
god.... I'm at your mercy.

Usually I don't make a point of intervening in these love fests, but
if you seriously plan on using this group for information in the
future then you probably should rethink your tactics. Mocking Will's
knowledge of nutrition only makes you look like an idiot. It's like
making fun of Arnold Schwarzenegger's biceps.

Eventually you are probably going to have some actual questions that
you want answered, and if you antagonize the folks here then it's
entirely possible that you will simply be ignored.

Just some friendly advice.
Jason

Jason,
Look I really don't care if I get ignored as you say in this newgroup, it
seems there's no team here at all, you and Mr BRINK seem to think you are
high and mighty and choose to mock people like me, who are looking for
guidance. If thats all this group has to offer, by all means ignore.... No
guidance is better than the [censored] you and Mr BRINK have given.....

This really is childish and quite pathetic, Mr BRINK being smart about his
answer to my original post (3 no's and a statement saying I was lazy etc).
Then good old Jason, the little dog chasing the big dog.... defending him
blah blah blah... Like bloody kids I tell you... Look all I wanted was
personal experiences with the product, whether someone would recommend it
and any side effects that people know of OFF THE TOP OF THEIR HEAD!!! I
wasn't looking for a medical journal or a thesis or anything.

I thank you Charles for your mature approach, your email enlightened me and
made me see exactly how stupid I am to even bother reading the [censored] the pup
(Jason) and the dog (Mr BRINK) had posted. If anyone else can answer my
ORIGINAL post with experiences etc, please by all means, your guidance and
experience will be beneficial to me....

As for Mr BRINK and Jason.... I give you the two finger salute.... May your
Pc's live on forever.... seems to be the only fun you get.

That's the spirit Chris, it's just a matter of adapting to MFW's
unique style and not taking any nonsense from a few of its ruder
element.

There is much to learn and enjoy from active participation here, but
you will first have to sort out who is worth passing the time of day
with, and who to give a good kick in the balls.

Enjoy!! ;o)

David Cohen said:

"Charles" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

David Cohen said:

"Charles" <[email hidden]> wrote
> Jason Earl <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>"Chris" <[email hidden]> writes:
>>> Wrong about seeing a nutritionist?? and where do you seem to get
>>> your facts from?? just cause you have one bloody web page?? Ooh
>>> god.... I'm at your mercy.
>>
>>Usually I don't make a point of intervening in these love fests, but
>>if you seriously plan on using this group for information in the
>>future then you probably should rethink your tactics. Mocking Will's
>>knowledge of nutrition only makes you look like an idiot. It's like
>>making fun of Arnold Schwarzenegger's biceps.
>>
>>Eventually you are probably going to have some actual questions that
>>you want answered, and if you antagonize the folks here then it's
>>entirely possible that you will simply be ignored.
>
> That doesn't mean he has to accept all Brink's rudeness in the hope
> that some crumbs may come his way. It would do no harm if both parties
> introduced some common sense and civility.
>
> You are not helping Jason, by getting involved and taking sides,
> having first worked out which side might be more to your own personal
> advantage!!

Well, at least you and Down Under David haven't taken sides with regard to
Will.

You make a good point Cohen!!

It's my curse.

Quoted message said:

Which just goes to prove what an example of impartiality can do to
encourage people to be more helpful, in the time-honoured and
traditional MFW way!! ;o)

Exactly.

MFW: a supportive, civil, gentle newsgroup.

I think that nicely sums up what we are collectively, which can
perhaps better be described as a group of dedicated and self-effacing
individuals, providing a selfless public service!!

On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 20:48:23 -0700, Jason Earl <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Charles said:

On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 15:37:05 -0700, Jason Earl <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

"Chris" <[email hidden]> writes:

> Wrong about seeing a nutritionist?? and where do you seem to get
> your facts from?? just cause you have one bloody web page?? Ooh
> god.... I'm at your mercy.

Usually I don't make a point of intervening in these love fests, but
if you seriously plan on using this group for information in the
future then you probably should rethink your tactics. Mocking
Will's knowledge of nutrition only makes you look like an idiot.
It's like making fun of Arnold Schwarzenegger's biceps.

Eventually you are probably going to have some actual questions that
you want answered, and if you antagonize the folks here then it's
entirely possible that you will simply be ignored.

That doesn't mean he has to accept all Brink's rudeness in the hope
that some crumbs may come his way. It would do no harm if both
parties introduced some common sense and civility.

Brink was more terse than rude, and as you have pointed out he clearly
has a lot to offer.

I said nothing of the sort, my personal experience of Brinks over a
considerable period of time, indicates that he is an ill-educated oaf
who is inappropriately an insufferably bumptious [censored]!!

Quoted message said:

He is a poster with a well-known reputation for
accuracy. What's more, Brink was right about the research bit. It's
proper netiquette to check to see if the question you are asking is
something that comes up frequently, and it's hard to think of a
subject that comes up more frequently on mfw than folks mistaking
creatine for some sort of anabolic steroid.

If he is weary of dispensing his dubious knowledge, then the proper
thing to do is to ignore all such enquiries, not abuse newcomers to
the Group who are unaware of his self-appointed precocious 'star'
status!!

Quoted message said:

That's not that big a deal. Heck, I pitched in an answer to Chris'
initial question, as did a couple of other folks. Mocking the people
that are providing answers *is* a big deal. If Chris didn't think
that Brink's original response (which answered his questions) was
kosher he should have just ignored it.

A kick in the bollocks indicates a reciprocal well placed boot in the
balls!!

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

You are not helping Jason, by getting involved and taking sides,
having first worked out which side might be more to your own
personal advantage!!

I am not taking sides

Yes you are!!

Quoted message said:

merely pointing out what is already obvious to
anyone with a little bit of USENET experience.

I have acquired a fair amount of "USENET experience" and your advice
is unhelpful and divisive, and only encourages people like Brinks to
continue being rude to newcomers.

Quoted message said:

Brink has the
knowledge that Chris wants (assuming that Chris isn't a troll who is
merely trying to stir things up). Antagonizing Brink is a very poor
way of extracting said information.

Chris didn't know who was going to respond at the outset, and his
initial enquiries were in no way "antagonistic". He only became
'competitive' by way of response to others' high-handed replies.

Quoted message said:

It really is as simple as that.
Just like it is in my personal best interest to not antagonize Brink,
it is also in Chris' personal interest to be more courteous to Brink.
I am merely pointing that out.

You are merely being obsequious in order to ingratiate. It will in no
way further your cause in the long term!!

Quoted message said:

I may be new to mfw, but I have been posting to USENET for a very long
time, and that's simply the way it works. Eventually newbies learn
netiquette or they end up being ignored. I personally believe that
it's best to be a bit bald about the truth of the matter.

I spend a great deal of my time defending beleaguered newcomers, so if
it is your MO to belittle new arrivals to the Group, we will no doubt
cross paths again!! ;o)

Bullies no longer flourish at MFW!!

In article <[email hidden]>,

Jason Earl said:

I may be new to mfw, but I have been posting to USENET for a very long
time, and that's simply the way it works. Eventually newbies learn
netiquette or they end up being ignored. I personally believe that
it's best to be a bit bald about the truth of the matter.

Don't waste your breath Jason, I think we have us a troll here, not an
ignorant kid.

Quoted message said:

Jason

--
Will Brink @ http://www.brinkzone.com/

Will Brink said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
"Chris" <[email hidden]> wrote:
If anyone else can answer my

Quoted message said:

ORIGINAL post with experiences etc, please by all means, your guidance and
experience will be beneficial to me....

[censored], I did in fact answer your questions, you just didn't like the
answers.

Your "answers" such as they were, gave no indication that you might
know what you are talking about, and were un-necessarily terse and
rude.

In fact the 'conversation' went like this:

+++++++

Chris said:

decided to try creatine, I hear it increases your testostarone (cant spell)
levels.... this true??

Brinks replied:
No.

Chris said:

I also hear that it can lead to hair loss, and
impotence??/

Brinks replied:
No and no.

Chris said:

any guidance, experiences with creatine out there??/

Brinks replied:
How lazy can you be? Try a google search."

++++++++++

Quoted message said:

You are the type that will keep asking them until you get the
answer you want vs the correct answer.

He gave no such indication and you are just being an obnoxious
objectionable [censored] as usual!!

Will Brink said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Jason Earl said:

I may be new to mfw, but I have been posting to USENET for a very long
time, and that's simply the way it works. Eventually newbies learn
netiquette or they end up being ignored. I personally believe that
it's best to be a bit bald about the truth of the matter.

Don't waste your breath Jason, I think we have us a troll here, not an
ignorant kid.

There is no indication of this whatsoever if you are referring to
Chris.

Given that Jason's response, which you have deliberately snipped/
hacked to pieces, was directly to me, then it may be me that you are
referring to me as a "troll"!!

This would make sense, as it is your usual tactic when dealing with
someone who pulls you up for your rudeness, and when you are clearly
in the wrong!!

You are a very sad little man Brinks, and while chumming up to Jason
will perhaps please him temporarily, it will fool no-one else!!

"Will Brink" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
"Chris" <[email hidden]> wrote:
If anyone else can answer my

Quoted message said:

ORIGINAL post with experiences etc, please by all means, your guidance
and
experience will be beneficial to me....

[censored], I did in fact answer your questions, you just didn't like the
answers. You are the type that will keep asking them until you get the
answer you want vs the correct answer.

--
Will Brink @ http://www.brinkzone.com/

you did no such thing, a simple no is hardly an answer to a question... I'd
hate to be the poor sod who tries to communicate with you in person!!! U go
out last night? no... Do anything over the weekend?? No..... You like
stuff?? No....

As you can see No really isn't an answer at all, its a cold blunt answer
which really determines that your a snobbish self centred kid and you really
have no ability at all to communicate!!. You and the pup say your in the
know how, yet the only answers you managed to give were one worded, non
helpful and just pathetic really..

As for me being a troll?? I'm sorry but isn't this newgroup formed so others
can help newbies?? Share each others experiences?? Its a newsgroup for gods
sake!!! you're not forced to answer anything!!!

you say your in the know how, yet your "guidance" as you put it, I could get
from a child who can barely speak!!!. "no" doesn't really tell me anything.

I'm glad Charles and David Cohen spoke up!!! I was about to dismiss all
hope of this newgroup thinking it was full of arrogant gits who really just
decide to feel high and mighty by bullying others, the people not in the
know how... but now.... I think I'll stick around!!! Its good to see that
there are still people out there who are infact doing what a newsgroup was
created to do!!..

"Charles" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Will Brink said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
"Chris" <[email hidden]> wrote:
If anyone else can answer my

Quoted message said:

ORIGINAL post with experiences etc, please by all means, your guidance
and
experience will be beneficial to me....

[censored], I did in fact answer your questions, you just didn't like the
answers.

Your "answers" such as they were, gave no indication that you might
know what you are talking about, and were un-necessarily terse and
rude.

In fact the 'conversation' went like this:

+++++++

Chris said:

decided to try creatine, I hear it increases your testostarone (cant
spell)
levels.... this true??

Brinks replied:
No.

Chris said:

I also hear that it can lead to hair loss, and
impotence??/

Brinks replied:
No and no.

Chris said:

any guidance, experiences with creatine out there??/

Brinks replied:
How lazy can you be? Try a google search."

++++++++++

Quoted message said:

You are the type that will keep asking them until you get the
answer you want vs the correct answer.

He gave no such indication and you are just being an obnoxious
objectionable [censored] as usual!!

Many thanks Charles for your defence.. I am a newcomer and yeah pretty much
I don't have many experiences etc.. Its good to know that some people out
there will infact stand up for the new person, and stop them from being
bullied and intimidated outta the newsgroup!!!..

Many thanks!!! Its much appreciated!!

Chris said:

"Charles" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Will Brink said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
"Chris" <[email hidden]> wrote:
If anyone else can answer my
> ORIGINAL post with experiences etc, please by all means, your guidance
> and
> experience will be beneficial to me....

[censored], I did in fact answer your questions, you just didn't like the
answers.

Your "answers" such as they were, gave no indication that you might
know what you are talking about, and were un-necessarily terse and
rude.

In fact the 'conversation' went like this:

+++++++

Chris said:

decided to try creatine, I hear it increases your testostarone (cant
spell)
levels.... this true??

Brinks replied:
No.

Chris said:

I also hear that it can lead to hair loss, and
impotence??/

Brinks replied:
No and no.

Chris said:

any guidance, experiences with creatine out there??/

Brinks replied:
How lazy can you be? Try a google search."

++++++++++

Quoted message said:

You are the type that will keep asking them until you get the
answer you want vs the correct answer.

He gave no such indication and you are just being an obnoxious
objectionable [censored] as usual!!

Many thanks Charles for your defence.. I am a newcomer and yeah pretty much
I don't have many experiences etc.. Its good to know that some people out
there will infact stand up for the new person, and stop them from being
bullied and intimidated outta the newsgroup!!!..

Many thanks!!! Its much appreciated!!

You'll find there many more helpful people here than there are idiots
like Brinks!!

Stick around and enjoy the newsgroup!! ;o)

In article <[email hidden]>,

Chris said:

"Will Brink" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
"Chris" <[email hidden]> wrote:
If anyone else can answer my

Quoted message said:

ORIGINAL post with experiences etc, please by all means, your guidance
and
experience will be beneficial to me....

[censored], I did in fact answer your questions, you just didn't like the
answers. You are the type that will keep asking them until you get the
answer you want vs the correct answer.

--
Will Brink @ http://www.brinkzone.com/

you did no such thing,

Yes I did, twice in fact.

Quoted message said:

a simple no is hardly an answer to a question..

Sure it is, as in "Does creatine increase testosterone" to which I
replied "no." What part of "no" don't you understand here?

Quoted message said:

. I'd
hate to be the poor sod who tries to communicate with you in person!!! U go
out last night? no... Do anything over the weekend?? No..... You like
stuff?? No....

Yup :-)

Quoted message said:

As you can see No really isn't an answer at all,

See above.

Quoted message said:

its a cold blunt answer

Then you admit it is an answer after all. Cold and blunt? Sure. It also
happens to be correct and does in fact answer your questions.

Silly troll responses snipped...

--
Will Brink @ http://www.brinkzone.com/

Will Brink said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Chris said:

"Will Brink" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
"Chris" <[email hidden]> wrote:
If anyone else can answer my
> ORIGINAL post with experiences etc, please by all means, your guidance
> and
> experience will be beneficial to me....

[censored], I did in fact answer your questions, you just didn't like the
answers. You are the type that will keep asking them until you get the
answer you want vs the correct answer.

--
Will Brink @ http://www.brinkzone.com/

you did no such thing,

Yes I did, twice in fact.

Quoted message said:

a simple no is hardly an answer to a question..

Sure it is, as in "Does creatine increase testosterone" to which I
replied "no." What part of "no" don't you understand here?

Quoted message said:

. I'd
hate to be the poor sod who tries to communicate with you in person!!! U go
out last night? no... Do anything over the weekend?? No..... You like
stuff?? No....

Yup :-)

Quoted message said:

As you can see No really isn't an answer at all,

See above.

Quoted message said:

its a cold blunt answer

Then you admit it is an answer after all. Cold and blunt? Sure. It also
happens to be correct and does in fact answer your questions.

Silly troll responses snipped...

They weren't "troll responses" but as usual, you just don't like the
truth Slippery [censored].

Here is what he actually said:

"As for me being a troll?? I'm sorry but isn't this newgroup formed so
others can help newbies?? Share each others experiences?? Its a
newsgroup for gods sake!!! you're not forced to answer anything!!!

you say your in the know how, yet your "guidance" as you put it, I
could get from a child who can barely speak!!!. "no" doesn't really
tell me anything.

I'm glad Charles and David Cohen spoke up!!! I was about to dismiss
all hope of this newgroup thinking it was full of arrogant gits who
really just decide to feel high and mighty by bullying others, the
people not in the know how... but now.... I think I'll stick around!!!

Its good to see that there are still people out there who are infact
doing what a newsgroup was created to do!!.."

"Will Brink" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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In article <[email hidden]>,

Chris said:

"Will Brink" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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In article <[email hidden]>,
"Chris" <[email hidden]> wrote:
If anyone else can answer my
> ORIGINAL post with experiences etc, please by all means, your

guidance

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> and
> experience will be beneficial to me....

[censored], I did in fact answer your questions, you just didn't like the
answers. You are the type that will keep asking them until you get the
answer you want vs the correct answer.

--
Will Brink @ http://www.brinkzone.com/

you did no such thing,

Yes I did, twice in fact.

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a simple no is hardly an answer to a question..

Sure it is, as in "Does creatine increase testosterone" to which I
replied "no." What part of "no" don't you understand here?

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. I'd
hate to be the poor sod who tries to communicate with you in person!!! U

go

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out last night? no... Do anything over the weekend?? No..... You like
stuff?? No....

Yup :-)

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As you can see No really isn't an answer at all,

See above.

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its a cold blunt answer

Then you admit it is an answer after all. Cold and blunt? Sure. It also
happens to be correct and does in fact answer your questions.

Silly troll responses snipped...

--
Will Brink @ http://www.brinkzone.com/

Only 'cold and blunt'? Add 'duplicitous sack of [censored]'

"Charles" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Will Brink said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Chris said:

"Will Brink" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
> In article <[email hidden]>,
> "Chris" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> If anyone else can answer my
>> ORIGINAL post with experiences etc, please by all means, your

guidance

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>> and
>> experience will be beneficial to me....
>
>
> [censored], I did in fact answer your questions, you just didn't like the
> answers. You are the type that will keep asking them until you get

the

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> answer you want vs the correct answer.
>
> --
> Will Brink @ http://www.brinkzone.com/
>
>

you did no such thing,

Yes I did, twice in fact.

Quoted message said:

a simple no is hardly an answer to a question..

Sure it is, as in "Does creatine increase testosterone" to which I
replied "no." What part of "no" don't you understand here?

Quoted message said:

. I'd
hate to be the poor sod who tries to communicate with you in person!!!

U go

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

out last night? no... Do anything over the weekend?? No..... You like
stuff?? No....

Yup :-)

Quoted message said:

As you can see No really isn't an answer at all,

See above.

Quoted message said:

its a cold blunt answer

Then you admit it is an answer after all. Cold and blunt? Sure. It also
happens to be correct and does in fact answer your questions.

Silly troll responses snipped...

They weren't "troll responses" but as usual, you just don't like the
truth Slippery [censored].

Here is what he actually said:

"As for me being a troll?? I'm sorry but isn't this newgroup formed so
others can help newbies?? Share each others experiences?? Its a
newsgroup for gods sake!!! you're not forced to answer anything!!!

you say your in the know how, yet your "guidance" as you put it, I
could get from a child who can barely speak!!!. "no" doesn't really
tell me anything.

I'm glad Charles and David Cohen spoke up!!! I was about to dismiss
all hope of this newgroup thinking it was full of arrogant gits who
really just decide to feel high and mighty by bullying others, the
people not in the know how... but now.... I think I'll stick around!!!

Its good to see that there are still people out there who are infact
doing what a newsgroup was created to do!!.."

Slippery [censored] has a *big* problem with the truth - he could not lie
straight in bed. (I think he just has his hands full lecturing the medical
doctors and keeping them informed on his 'theories'.)